I think it was meant to be presented as a dumb idea as they're a symbol of Targaryen power and showing they can be killed reduces the fear and awe they're held in. Messing with the symbolism of picking dragonriders probably weakens them too. Hard to imagine Ulf not becoming a problem in one way or another. I think the show is about a fall from the height of their power and stuff like that will come back to haunt them later.
Television House of the Dragon (GoT Prequel) - No book spoilers allowed
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Corlys' bastard calling him out was a very good scene. Powerful.
I don't understand some things though. It's a finale, put your best foot forward with your best characters and most interesting stories but then they devote a chunk of the episode to the "Oh...er....erm...well, you see...." Lannister and Poundland Brienne.
I don't understand some things though. It's a finale, put your best foot forward with your best characters and most interesting stories but then they devote a chunk of the episode to the "Oh...er....erm...well, you see...." Lannister and Poundland Brienne.
I'm having that problem too. I know GoT show backwards, read all the books, know all the characters but this show I'm regularly thinking "What's their name again?" The girl running around the countryside/mountains, I haven't a clue what she's called. Maybe Baela or Vaela.
I didn't. What did I miss.
The lore is interesting but I'm not sure they're showing it well. RoP is way worse.
Agreed. Making them the same age was a good idea but the show runners seem to think the whole war is just a spat between them. Thousands have died at this stage and it's gone way beyond them. They can't just fix it.
Rhaenyra got over that way too quickly and Alicent just looks like a monster for being so cruel towards Aegon. Aemond is a monster and a threat to everyone else so I could understand turning on him but Aegon is basically just a drunken moron. Not really bad enough to justify murdering your own kid.
Decent episode but the season wasn't as good as the first. They dragged it too much to set-up the next season.
Episode 9 of every GoT season was always the set piece, episode 10 dealing with the immediate aftermath and setting up the next season. Seems like they've followed the same formula, but for whatever daft reason, they've pushed (probably already shot) episode 9 and 10 into the next season. That could backfire spectacularly if it causes people to lose interest.
Especially now we've seen a shift to TV show seasons coming out every two years rather than every year. You'll lose more viewers than you gain with such a wide gap. Imagine if Game of Thrones seasons were every two years. The last season would be due out next year! Add in the pandemic and strikes, then it would probably be season 7 coming out next year and 8 due in 2027!
Especially now we've seen a shift to TV show seasons coming out every two years rather than every year. You'll lose more viewers than you gain with such a wide gap. Imagine if Game of Thrones seasons were every two years. The last season would be due out next year! Add in the pandemic and strikes, then it would probably be season 7 coming out next year and 8 due in 2027!
I thought I recognised the pirate character's actor. I checked and they're a British youtuber that makes philosophy videos. It's not quite as bad as 10 minutes of Ed Sheersn but it's very strange to see her in the show.
Surely that turd didn't get renewed?
It would have been a great episode if next week was the finale.
I don't know this for a fact but there have been things mentioned about dissenting houses. Won't say more in case it's something I know from before but I was watching a reaction and it was mentioned there. So came from someone not a book reader.
I had this thought too. I love the books so I'm all in on the show but it's absurd they ended the season on a setup. Exactly like you said they needed a climax epi9 then epi10 aftermath because that formula works.
So two questions about the vision Daemon had - Does he see Dany and think it’s Rhaenarya, who is the savior, cause they show Dany with the three baby dragons first and then show Rhaenrya sitting on the throne and two is Haelena confirmed to be a seer?
I'm excited AF. Feck the haters.
Amazing. We quit after 2 or 3 episodes of S1. Turning hobbits into leprechauns was particularly bizarre.
Same! Enjoyed the first season.
Although that trailer is proper shit. Looks fan made.
Nah..it is the bad writing mainly.. Ryan Condal and especially Sara Hess (she wrote the finale) are clueless yet very self entitled people that truly believe they are making the source material better. They are not..
Level of acting has definitely gone down since VIserys and Rhaenys' deaths and then since Otto's leaving of KL. Those 3, Alicent, Daemon and Rhaenyra (young and old) were the best actors on the show.
In particular Aemond's actor seems like his playing a caricature of the character. Jace actor is awful.
In general I wouldn't say I am as disappointed as others with this season. My main gripe does align with others though. I don't really care about many of the characters. There's just a whole load of depth in the story/characters missing.
On top of all else that has been said so far, some of the CGI in this episode seemed.....noticeably worse than in previous episodes. Especially when Rhaenrya was getting off her dragon at Harrenhall and the armada of ships sailing towards Westeros. Really really noticeable.
I guess you are right about using humor to break things up a bit, but it just felt strange that it happened with Tyland Lannister who has barely been a character so far.
Apparently the whole season was only a few pages long in the books!
I was waiting for something to happen the whole time.
I was waiting for something to happen the whole time.
Damn, I knew she looked familiar! I’m not the biggest fan of her content, there are way better philosophy YouTubers out there but still, it’s nice to see her doing well. Even if that character was basically a Family Guy gag.
I wanted that post to be a positive one and I feel like it didn’t come out that way.
There needed to be some battles in this season to reflect a war rather than just build everything for next season. If they had some more action alongside the storylines then it would have satisfied viewers I think.
I don’t think anyone can answer those questions with certainty (unless it’s in the books, so still, hopefully, no) but:
1. It’s certainly possible. But even if it’s not, he’s shown that there’s only one way to beat white walkers and it starts with Rhaenyra on the Iron Throne. So I don’t think that this confusion would play a big part in the future but it’s weird that they’ve only shown Dany from behind (maybe they didn’t want to pay an astronomical fee to Emilia Clarke for a 2 second cameo?)
2. Pretty much. She appears in the vision and then, immediately, tells Aemod the future, they’ve clearly wanted us to link these two together
Looking back over the season, there was actually enough going on in the first half.
Episode 1 - Blood and Cheese
Episode 2 - Showdown between Arryk and Erryk
Episode 3 - Rhaenyra sneaks into King's Landing (a bit weak)
Episode 4 - Battle at Rook's Rest
It seems like the only really memorable set piece of the second half of the season was the Red Sowing, which was cool but ultimately didn't lead to much, because none of the dragon claimers did anything afterwards.
Episode 1 - Blood and Cheese
Episode 2 - Showdown between Arryk and Erryk
Episode 3 - Rhaenyra sneaks into King's Landing (a bit weak)
Episode 4 - Battle at Rook's Rest
It seems like the only really memorable set piece of the second half of the season was the Red Sowing, which was cool but ultimately didn't lead to much, because none of the dragon claimers did anything afterwards.
Awful last episode. They built up the penultimate like there would be a battle or something with the new dragon riders and then it was a damp squib.
I just maybe needed a classic GoT shock scene. Damian heel turn or something. I was avoiding spoilers yesterday and it was quite easy as nothing was on social media. This is why because feck all happened.
I just maybe needed a classic GoT shock scene. Damian heel turn or something. I was avoiding spoilers yesterday and it was quite easy as nothing was on social media. This is why because feck all happened.
Afraid this show has become background noise to me while I scroll - not very engaging and can't believe that 90 minute episode had so little happen. The drop in acting quality as the main cast has somewhat changed during the season has been noticeable too. Finished the season feeling that I wouldn't have missed a lot if I didn't bother.
Alicent being able to just leave at will with one guy and get on to Dragonstone was such a silly plot device. We're supposed to believe Aemond wouldn't monitor everyone's movements in and out of the city or what?
Also it's hilarious that Daemon pissed about up in Harrenhal all season and all Rhaenera had to do was jump on her dragon, fly up in a few hours and ask him what he was doing
Like why not do that much earlier?
Also it's hilarious that Daemon pissed about up in Harrenhal all season and all Rhaenera had to do was jump on her dragon, fly up in a few hours and ask him what he was doing
Like why not do that much earlier?Cause there was no news of him planning a coup so she felt she didn’t need to. Also this was a chance to see how he actually will do instead of “babysitting” him. So as soon as she heard the news she felt it was time to confront him to put this thing to bed one way or another.Also it's hilarious that Daemon pissed about up in Harrenhal all season and all Rhaenera had to do was jump on her dragon, fly up in a few hours and ask him what he was doing
Good thing he had that vision just in time. Could have been awkward otherwise.
Cause there are secret passages in and out of the castle? And when you’re only one person it easy to disguise yourself as small folk. Aemond also told her her service wasn’t needed anymore so why would he give a shit about what she does or where she goes?
There are tons of hidden tunnels, entrances etc. in King's Landing, it's been established in both House of the Dragon and GoT. I mean, rat catchers could enter Aemond's bedroom pretty much directly from the street, the security options there aren't exactly top notch.Alicent being able to just leave at will with one guy and get on to Dragonstone was such a silly plot device. We're supposed to believe Aemond wouldn't monitor everyone's movements in and out of the city or what?
Also it's hilarious that Daemon pissed about up in Harrenhal all season and all Rhaenera had to do was jump on her dragon, fly up in a few hours and ask him what he was doing
Getting to Dragonstone without a dragon would be more difficult I'd imagine. You'd have to somehow evade the Sea Snake's blockade (which wasn't the issue for Raenyra when she sailed in the other direction)... I'd imagine that they'd hire some local fishermen and wouldn't travel on a small boat alone (useless Alicent and her guard who is unlikely a very skillful sailor) but it's still a bit of a stretch.
And while the entire Daemon's plot line this season was genuinely horrible you seem to have missed the key moment that influenced his decision... I wouldn't blame you if you fell asleep during the 137th scene of Daemon talking nonsense with the witch but it was his vision (that included the white walkers and some minor GoT spoilers) that secured his allegiance to Raenyra, not her visit. The implication is if she had visited him sooner, he would've likely told her to feck off.
Alicent being able to just leave at will with one guy and get on to Dragonstone was such a silly plot device. We're supposed to believe Aemond wouldn't monitor everyone's movements in and out of the city or what?
Also it's hilarious that Daemon pissed about up in Harrenhal all season and all Rhaenera had to do was jump on her dragon, fly up in a few hours and ask him what he was doing
This was quite dumb to me honest. There was so much build up and then we're honestly just back to square one in a way + a future vision scene. It really feels like that while plotline was wasted this season.
I still recall quite a few moments throughout the season where she was questioning what the hell he was doing up there, though, it's just hilarious that she could easily have gone and visited, if she wanted, rather than leave it all so open.
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I saw, your user wall or whatever it's called is all merged up too.
But also you've leapfrogged @Rado_N as the poster with the most likes.
- I'd have to rewatch, but I don't think it's necessary for him to think it's Rhaenyra in order to have his revelation.
- She's been prophesying since she was a kid in S1, it just wasn't always obvious due to it being veiled in mumbles and riddles...typical prophet. Her and Alys (sp?) - Daemon's muse this season - clearly have some sort of magic in them.
But why was Haelena narrating in his vision?
This is an outrage.
I think the whole idea was for D to spend months/years there and basically find himself. Which he did and recommitted to the QueenAlicent being able to just leave at will with one guy and get on to Dragonstone was such a silly plot device. We're supposed to believe Aemond wouldn't monitor everyone's movements in and out of the city or what?
Also it's hilarious that Daemon pissed about up in Harrenhal all season and all Rhaenera had to do was jump on her dragon, fly up in a few hours and ask him what he was doing