he's from Wolverhampton.
Homophobia in football
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he's from Wolverhampton.
It's a pretty clear violation of this FA rule.
The appearance on, or incorporation in, any item of clothing, football boots or other equipment, of any religious message is prohibited under Rule A4 of the governing body’s regulations.
I don't see how it could possibly be argued that "I love Jesus" isn't a religious message.
It's quite something, how religion can make you think it's a wonderful thing sometimes,
while also making you want to bang your head against the wall at other times.
while also making you want to bang your head against the wall at other times.
Explains everything!
I thought he was Egyptian, that's a little different then
I thought the same but it turns out he’s born in England, he just plays for Egypt. Together with the shrugs he gave when promoting a gambling company, I’m on board with criticising him for his choice to boycott it.
This is it. ‘Don’t get above your station now, just keep your mouth shut and run around like good little cash cows’
One of the least enlightened countries in Europe, to be fair.
Does that make you a one-handed tosser?
Yes, yes I believe it does! Cool.
Not exactly. It would create mess. Every player would want (or even be paid by sponsors) to send a message. From "free palestine" to "eat in KFC".
More like... at the process of getting him the expectancy, they go over things with the player and what is expected of them. "Represent the club from a social justice POV and be a leader in inclusivity at the club" should be one of the core factors in someone being worth being captain. Bit of a shit captain if they won't back some other players or kids they play with for whatever reason.
That one's moot now, Shaw's injured again
Wikipedia says Egyptian dad, English mum
his father is.
but because of that, and the fact Egypt were the ones that gave him opportunity to experience playing at World Cup, there's a good chance he has deep connection with the country, NT and the fans.
Whether it’s through social conditioning, brainwashing, or just a convenient excuse for bigotry, I am sick and tired of the role of religion in civil rights. It is almost exclusively an instrument to manifest and justify discrimination. Morsy is a fecking idiot, and worse….he's a bigot. Discriminating against people due to their sexual orientation seems about as arbitrary and relevant in 2024, as it does to discriminate against people with beards, or moles, or whether they are a dog or cat person.
What a fecking moron.
Now we have Guehi writing “I love Jesus” on the armband. Does he write that on every armband he wears? Or only feel the need to do it when being asked to wear one that supports LBGTQ rights? Comes off like a low-key protest. Although I might be wrong. I just don’t know how else to read it.
What a fecking moron.
Now we have Guehi writing “I love Jesus” on the armband. Does he write that on every armband he wears? Or only feel the need to do it when being asked to wear one that supports LBGTQ rights? Comes off like a low-key protest. Although I might be wrong. I just don’t know how else to read it.
Respect his religious beliefs, sure - in general. But if his religious beliefs prevent him from representing the club in a proper manner - you have a fundamental problem.
The Premier League is committed to promoting LGBTQ+ diversity.
I don't see how the club can "respect" the decision in question. The guy is clearly taking a stance against "promoting LGBTQ+ diversity" - how can you interpret it otherwise? And how can you "respect" that?
The Premier League is committed to promoting LGBTQ+ diversity.
I don't see how the club can "respect" the decision in question. The guy is clearly taking a stance against "promoting LGBTQ+ diversity" - how can you interpret it otherwise? And how can you "respect" that?
Genuine Q - how do they decide which movements/rights to support and which to not allow?
It reminds me of an old Family Guy sketch, where a suicide bomber sets off his vest and goes to heaven to be rewarded with 72 virgins. But when he gets there, all triumphant, the 72 virgins are all male computer nerds.
You can’t. Pure and simple. Well said.
Well said.
Calling someone a little faggot is homophobic so it seems you are homophobic. Own it if you are going to say things like that.
actually, I'm not sure they (both the club & league) care about that as much as fans do.
it's like watching those ads against racism during Uefa games, but then also watching clubs such as Beitar, as close as you can get to openly racist club, casually participate.
principles... but until a certain point.
No evidence of that, it seems.
Seems more like a "statement" on the part of someone who claims to love Jebus.
Now, I personally don't claim to know Jebus intimately - but it is my understanding that he wasn't a disgusting bigot. Or a feckwit. A fair share of the people who claim to love him do seem like feckwits (disgusting bigots too), though.
You nailed it.
Not sure I understand the (genuine) question. What do you mean? They promote diversity in general.
(Whether they're actually, genuinely committed to it is another matter - but that is their official stance, and every PL club surely must agree with it on principle.)
Gay. Be gay
Straight. Be straight
Trans. Be trans
All accepted and welcome
But Christ can we just keep rainbow laces and captains armbands away from football and sport in general.
The EPL shouldn’t be used as a platform for anything. And if it is…why isn’t there a band for disabled powerchair players…or mute amputees…or dwarfs
Straight. Be straight
Trans. Be trans
All accepted and welcome
But Christ can we just keep rainbow laces and captains armbands away from football and sport in general.
The EPL shouldn’t be used as a platform for anything. And if it is…why isn’t there a band for disabled powerchair players…or mute amputees…or dwarfs
He might be expressing his affection for the Arsenal number 9.
But yeah, I agree with you. It's ludicrous how much people are contorting themselves in this thread to justify something that has no place in our world. Religious or not, and wherever we are on the political spectrum, we should all be supportive of LGBTQ rights. It's a no-brainer.
Counterpoint: keep the laces, lose the whiney idiots who complain about them.
Because they don't endure anywhere near the same level of discrimination. Obviously.
Stick with me on this one.
Curiously have you ever coached a powerchair team? I suspect not. Do you know what powerchair is? Possibly. Have you ever seen/watched a severely disabled child get assisted into a powerchair? I again suspect not. It’s genuinely one of the most humbling experiences you’ll have. For an hr they escape what is otherwise a tough hand.
Have you ever seen ANY exposure from the FA. I can guarantee that is a No
My irritation with rainbow laces is not with the movement it supports but the fact the FA spend literally millions on this scheme and very little in other areas that are equally as important.
But the EPL is a massive platform, whether you like it or not. At the moment it’s a platform for capitalism and excess, with the obscene wages and advertisements that are rammed down your throat at every opportunity, so why can’t it also be a platform for raising awareness of more important issues?
Prevent him from representing the club in a proper manner ? He’s a football player not a politician. He the captain of the football club for a reason. You talk about respect what about his respect to his decision not to promote something he does not believe in. You can’t force someone to do that simple as that. It’s called the equality act. He has his right to wear what he wants. The premier league can promote what they like that’s their own agenda. He is a football player paid to play football. His religious beliefs are his religious belief you can’t say you respect that but contradict that in the same sentence
What are the FA spending millions on with regards to Rainbow laces? I'm genuinely curious.
There's no TV adverts so it's not that.
Guehi once again wrote on his armband and Morsy once again didn't wear it.
Feck them both.
Feck them both.
Therein lies the problem. Who decides the important issues? You? Me?
Why does a 7yr old girl with an autoimmune disease not get any attention?…or funding
As per earlier. I’m not against the laces. I’m frustrated that the FA spend millions on this and very little in comparison elsewhere.
I wonder what Guehi and Morsi would think of someone refusing to wear anti-racism armband. fecking clowns.
To each their own, you can respect LGBTQ rights, but not support it. Glad players are standing up for their beliefs.
I mean your point may make some sense if football clubs and footballers didn't regularly go to hospitals or do things for children and people with disabilities and/or diseases and illnesses etc. The FA has also set out new strategies in this regard - https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...wQFnoECBoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2xMroFfEEWzRCS2tqvczpl
If you don't support it, then you're a trash human being. Easy as that.
Some random thoughts/questions.
Was anyone punished by the league for not kneeling?
Playing in the EPL requires that the players wear a team uniform. Except that the keeper can choose to wear what colours he wants. In N. American sports players are often required to wear matching footwear (sponsorship issues I presume) In the EPL players wear a variety of coloured footwear - their choice.
If players were asked to wear an armband with the word "Respect" written in Arabic would there be the same discussion here?
Obviously there are strong feelings being voiced here - but I suspect that 90% of punters don't give a fat d@mn.
Some teacups aren't large enough to handle a storm!
Was anyone punished by the league for not kneeling?
Playing in the EPL requires that the players wear a team uniform. Except that the keeper can choose to wear what colours he wants. In N. American sports players are often required to wear matching footwear (sponsorship issues I presume) In the EPL players wear a variety of coloured footwear - their choice.
If players were asked to wear an armband with the word "Respect" written in Arabic would there be the same discussion here?
Obviously there are strong feelings being voiced here - but I suspect that 90% of punters don't give a fat d@mn.
Some teacups aren't large enough to handle a storm!
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