I suspect the simple reasons for lower birthrates is that we're in a more advanced society now where people no longer need to have children to provide for them in order to survive. Sex education (while still archaic a lot of the time) is generally better than it was and so as a result people are less likely to have kids when they might see it as a fairly pointless venture that'll only cause more stress and lead to them spending a lot of money on someone else. I don't even think it's necessarily that problematic - over the longer term we'll either see governments creating incentives for people to procreate, people wanting to have kids more because automation means they have more time to provide for them, or we'll see population levels propped up by immigration from other, overcrowded countries.
Has political correctness actually gone mad?
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I suspect the simple reasons for lower birthrates is that we're in a more advanced society now where people no longer need to have children to provide for them in order to survive. Sex education (while still archaic a lot of the time) is generally better than it was and so as a result people are less likely to have kids when they might see it as a fairly pointless venture that'll only cause more stress and lead to them spending a lot of money on someone else. I don't even think it's necessarily that problematic - over the longer term we'll either see governments creating incentives for people to procreate, people wanting to have kids more because automation means they have more time to provide for them, or we'll see population levels propped up by immigration from other, overcrowded countries.
I'll say this, posting youtube videos as a form of argument is the sign of a true moron.
Slightly sensationalist to say the least.
Jaysus. He really let the veil slip with his closing paragraph!
If only that applied in the transfer forum as well.
Me too, they're great for cannibalizing the left.
How else would you know if a player has leet skills or not?
Even when it was the bears, I knew it was the cats.
How dare you downplay this extremely serious issue
Incel/mgtow logic at it's finest.
How dare you downplay this extremely serious issue
How dare you downplay this extremely serious issue
Cats are like the female equivalent of a sexbot
Must tell mum that.
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Snowflake college students killing free speech...
Unrelated point - it is irritating that all political divides in the US fall into liberal=conservative without any consideration of left-right.
Classic liberal types thinkers arent generally the ones trying to deplatform speakers in the US, so much as the mindset of the progressive left.
Long time democrat voting classic liberal thinkers such as Dave Rubin tell they find their place on the right lately due to issues with progressivism, one of those being free speech, I'm sure he's not the only one.
Long time democrat voting classic liberal thinkers such as Dave Rubin tell they find their place on the right lately due to issues with progressivism, one of those being free speech, I'm sure he's not the only one.
First they came for the bears, then they came for the cats...
Nooooo, not the caaaatttssss! 
Where are you getting this bit?
The link says:
He's a clown. A dishonest hack. His show is basically a right-wing safe-space.
Looks like they've changed it. Got the screengrab from an archive of the original.
Can see before and after here: https://wingsoverscotland.com/nazi-pugs-feck-off/ though, Cafe doesn't like feck with *u* so have to manually change that.
Can see before and after here: https://wingsoverscotland.com/nazi-pugs-feck-off/ though, Cafe doesn't like feck with *u* so have to manually change that.
Makes no sense to define a crime as something «that isn't a criminal offence». Either it's a crime or not. Surely this must be satire? "By the victim or anyone else".
Completely agreed. Changed one is a bit scary too.
A Hate Incident is any incident which the victim, or anyone else, thinks is based on someone’s prejudice towards them because of their race, religion, sexual orientation, disability or because they are transgender.
A Hate Incident is any incident which the victim, or anyone else, thinks is based on someone’s prejudice towards them because of their race, religion, sexual orientation, disability or because they are transgender.
Personally I don't think that is scary since it's just the definition of a hate incident, which - going by the following paragraph - is not a hate crime in itself.
Not all hate incidents will amount to criminal offences, but it is equally important that these are reported and recorded by the police.
The main problem seems to be that the definition rests on the victim's perception, which is subjective for all sorts of potential reasons.
Yeah, I see where you're coming from. But the speaker in that case states that Men are taller than Women, which can be understood wrongly because it implies a general rule like all men are supposedly taller than all women. So, if you look at it from a statistical point of view, then you can not describe the difference with "men are taller than women". That's simply wrong. And I do think that such wrong simplifications can also create wrong biases in our heads.
I suppose she's talking in general... and in general, men are taller than women. That's a fact... the other things she says are also biological facts. Denying biological facts without any evidence of the opposite are just retarded
It's a way of forcing the police who ignore hate crime to actually investigate and prosecute hate crime. This case below is an obvious hate crime murder of a young Egyptian woman by a group of white women. The police said 'no evidence of hate crime' is absolutely disgusting in my view:
https://www.aljazeera.com/programme...ptian-teen-uk-hate-crime-180316183739429.html
I've reported a crime which I believed was a hate crime and the police said unless there was evidence they wouldn't come out and question the suspect about it.
This isn't actually different from rape law where the victims gets greater credance than in other crimes.
EDIT: I assumed wrong that it was a group of white women, it was a group of black females who attacked her. Still a hate crime for me.
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I suppose it's because using "biological facts" to define gender is something that trans people are trying to get people to move away from.
It's a good job hate crimes weren't all the rage in the good old days of the Caf. Half the residents on here back then would now be inmates at HMP.
It was good fun though.
It was good fun though.
How can you actually get away from a biological fact ?
Damn right. It's all been downhill since their introduction in 1986. All these nerds signing up in the 2000s thinking they know it all.
When it comes to gender? Pretty easily, I think. I see gender as a spectrum, I don't think it always corresponds to the reproductive organs you possess, and if someone feels strongly about their own position on that spectrum they should be listened to and accepted as such. "Biological facts" have little value in that discourse.
It's been a problem for a number of years though, & right throughout most of western Europe. Hence the possible reason for Merkel to open the borders for all & sundry to enter without very little vetting & scrutiny. So if governments were going to create some sort of incentive scheme surely they'd have done it long before now. The indigenous population of Britain is dwindling - for whatever reason, or reasons - so the next couple of generations are going to witness a social landscape change which I believe will be fairly dramatic.
Oh, & the reason my wife & I wanted children wasn't because of some long-term insurance for when we get old, it was because we love kids. The funny thing is though, we are old, & it's us that are still providing for them.
So if I'd lived my life believing I wasn't in fact human but I was actually a 7 foot alien from mars, then people would have to respect my beliefs.
Agree with the police having to investigate crimes but they should really be doing their job regardless of whether its a "hate" crime or just a regular crime.
The bold parts are very loose and I'm not sure if the perception is on the part of the victim or the perpetrator. But it does state "perceived by the victim"....which is a bit wishy washy to be part of the legal system imo.
No. That's an argument on a par with "so if a man loves his dog he should be allowed to marry it?" being used against same-sex marriage. You're conflating several issues and suggesting people that feel this way are somehow inhuman.
But does that actually mean you‘re looking at it from the perspective of the victim of each specific case individually or could it also be understood as from the perspective of a normal, reasonable, average citizen which is somewhat objective. Hope that is comprehensible.
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Which is fair enough - just pointing out that there's not the same need for people to have kids now. There'll be big changes but it's not necessarily a bad thing - the planet is already overpopulated as it is and while the birthrates in developing countries remain high if it's dropping elsewhere that's alright.
Though not ideal for social security systems!