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romufc said:
I'm sure he is happy but he still wants Pogba. Also, I would like to point out their transfer window is open for 3 more weeks.

Only time will tell how his squad gels.

How am I being unrealistic? having the same squad baring AWB really is not something to look forward to considering the shot show the current squad produces on a yearly basis.
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Your being unrealistic because only in LVG’s second summer have we got all our transfer business done before pre-season. I think it’s funny how people just expect transfers especially when involving United where every clubs wants to rip you of to be a simple your player is valued at this let’s get this done.

The window is also not closed and as far as I can see we are still working on deals. So if buy the end of it we have a striker, Midfielder and Defender to AWB. I couldn’t care how long it took them to get here.

*second not first summer*
 
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romufc said:
I guess we are extra negative because of last season as well. We have seen these players for 3/4 years and the same pattern. Very inconsistent, one some days you think they are turning a corner, and the next game produce a bore with no shots on goal.

People calling me to calm down but, Jones Baily, Rojo, Lingard, Rashford, Martial, Shaw are so inconsistent because they have no competition.

We cannot fall behind from the top 2 any further, and if we do not finish top 4 this season I doubt we will have £50m to spend next year.
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I can see the pattern as well seems to be and it seems to be getting worse. As we didn't qualify for the Champions League I thought we would be having serious investment. It has been a fecking joke. Our defense is terribly injury prone and I think is a an area we are going to majorly struggle in. I know this rebuild is going to take more that one window but I have been saying for a while that we are in danger of falling behind the other top teams.

You're point in bold is a nightmare scenario, which I don't want to see happening although I think could happen if we don't invest wisely in the next 9 days which I see no chance of, considering how we have been in the transfer marker this summer. Really awful:annoyed:
 
Mainoldo said:
Your being unrealistic because only in LVG’s first summer have we got all our transfer business done before pre-season. I think it’s funny how people just expect transfers especially when involving United where every clubs wants to rip you of to be a simple your player is valued at this let’s get this done.

The window is also not closed and as far as I can see we are still working on deals. So if buy the end of it we have a striker, Midfielder and Defender to AWB. I couldn’t care how long it took them to get here.
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We didn't get it all done before pre season we panic bought ADM after two games
 
WolfInSharp'sClothing said:
It's just tactics from years ago that don't wash with other clubs any more, as they don't need the money.

Maguire might hand in a transfer request, but what does Woodward expect? That Leicester will all of a sudden cack themselves and accept a bid lower than they want? They won't. They will be stubborn, keep him and play him. He's not going to jeopardise his England career by downing tools, so the only way you get him is by paying the money.
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Yes! He has enough competition for the England squad that he will make sure he performs well regardless of whether he wishes he was playing in Manchester.

I also think that while he will be disappointed he would put his head down and be respectful of the clubs wishes and be professional, he can hardly blame them, they don’t want to sell but are willing to if a sum is met. Just like us with Pogba.

crossy1686 said:
Not true. No manager wants to keep a player that has handed in a transfer request and has told the club and his teammates he wants to leave and he'll be unhappy if they price him out of a move. A toxic work environment will ruin any positive momentum you've built all preseason.
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IIRC didn’t Mahrez hand in a transfer request but Leicester still refused to sell him until the following window? I could be wrong but if so, it wouldn’t surprise me if they did nothing if Harry also handed in one.
 
Codie said:
Yes! He has enough competition for the England squad that he will make sure he performs well regardless of whether he wishes he was playing in Manchester.

I also think that while he will be disappointed he would put his head down and be respectful of the clubs wishes and be professional, he can hardly blame them, they don’t want to sell but are willing to if a sum is met. Just like us with Pogba.



IIRC didn’t Mahrez hand in a transfer request but Leicester still refused to sell him until the following window? I could be wrong but if so, it wouldn’t surprise me if they did nothing if Harry also handed in one.
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We refused to sell Mahrez in January because the bid the day before the window shut leaving us no time to find a replacement
 
Subho611 said:
I still think this will be done on the last day. We are in advanced stages of negotiating transfer fees for at least 2-3 players (both going in or out) and paying a world record fee for a defender in the middle will negatively impact our position.

Woodward may bring the check book out after securing the signatures of Bruno Fernandez, Longstaff (possibly) and Dybala (possibly).
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True! I hadn’t thought about it this way before, but he knows what it will take to sign him, he knows the player wants to come and he has likely spoken with his agent to agree the salary. Likely he knows it can be done last minute as the fee is set and there is no competition. So he is using his time in the meanwhile to work on other deals which, while involving less money and likely more complicated to complete.
 
esmufc07 said:
I find it astonishing we seemingly don't have a back up list of defenders who we could go for if a move for Maguire didn't materialise.
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Was literally just thinking the same thing.

If we've come to the conclusion now that Maguire's price is £90m and we're some way off that, we really should be working on the next target, not least because if we sign a centre back we are going to need to shift Rojo (and ideally Bailey too but he's made of glass so no chance of that).
 
DJ Jeff said:
We didn't get it all done before pre season we panic bought ADM after two games
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Christ. Since when is buying a player as good as Di Maria a panic buy? Just because it didn't work out doesn't make it a panic buy.

Honestly the criticism of our club on this site is starting to make it virtually unreadable
 
Only way I can see a win here is to wait until the last few days of the window. Harry and Ed simultaneously apply pressure and they will fold. I don’t think Ed wants to go above 75 and I’m cool with that.

There needs to be a backup in place with the deal almost finalised. That needs to happen tomorrow.
 
I'm surprised even the fact Bailly will be out for 5 months hasn't really kicked off the afterburner on this deal or for that matter any CB deal since this has been absolutely essential for the past 2 to 3 seasons now.
 
In a way I’m glad the window closes in just over a week. Imagine this dragging on until August 31st.
 
Jimmy Skitz said:
We refused to sell Mahrez in January because the bid the day before the window shut leaving us no time to find a replacement
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Ah okay, well that’s completely fair enough in that case. Anyway, I don’t really like the idea of clubs unsettling other players in the hope they submit a transfer request. I hate Real doing it so I don’t want us doing it either.

What are your thoughts on whether he would hand in a transfer request, and what Leicester’s stance would be?

I personally don’t think he is the type, but of course none but Harry really know
 
2 man midfield said:
In a way I’m glad the window closes in just over a week. Imagine this dragging on until August 31st.
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I'm with you actually. As daft as the change was I'm really glad we don't have another month of this to slog through!

My inner Muppet is exhausted.
 
Fox_Chrys said:
Simple question.

Man utd cannot afford maguire.

Dunk supposedly available for 45 million.

Why dont you guys just sign Dunk?
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What gives you the impression we can't afford him. If his price is 90 million and not a cent less and we refuse to pay that it wasn't because we couldn't afford him.

That's like if you asked for Jones and we told you 50 million and you declined to purchase him... Then redcafe said well too bad you stingy broke cnuts come back when you're not living in your mommas basement
 
Bilbo said:
Christ. Since when is buying a player as good as Di Maria a panic buy? Just because it didn't work out doesn't make it a panic buy.

Honestly the criticism of our club on this site is starting to make it virtually unreadable
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He is the dictionary definition of a panic buy. We failed to win our first two games against dross after a summer of hype, looking atrocious in the process. Neville tore into them after the Burnley game and of course we go out and drop a club record fee on a player who had made it clear he did not want to go to us, and wanted Paris instead. Don't get me wrong, I was hyped by Di Maria and thrilled by his first few games but it was a definite panic buy especially since LvG wasn't into him
 
esmufc07 said:
I find it astonishing we seemingly don't have a back up list of defenders who we could go for if a move for Maguire didn't materialise.
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While we can't be sure, this does seem to be the case. We've got a scouting department, right? It's impossible to believe that Harry Maguire is the only CB available who could significantly improve on Smalling, Jones, Rojo, etc.
 
We should have moved on from this a loooong time ago. We're wasting our time.
 
Subho611 said:
I still think this will be done on the last day. We are in advanced stages of negotiating transfer fees for at least 2-3 players (both going in or out) and paying a world record fee for a defender in the middle will negatively impact our position.

Woodward may bring the check book out after securing the signatures of Bruno Fernandez, Longstaff (possibly) and Dybala (possibly).
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good point, though the only stumbling block in that regard is will Leicester have enough time to get Dunk in and then for Brighton presumably to replace Dunk if we leave it too late. I'd imagine Brighton will rape Leicester on the sale price for Dunk knowing they've a huge profit in their coffers from Maguire sale.
 
WolfInSharp'sClothing said:
It's just tactics from years ago that don't wash with other clubs any more, as they don't need the money.

Maguire might hand in a transfer request, but what does Woodward expect? That Leicester will all of a sudden cack themselves and accept a bid lower than they want? They won't. They will be stubborn, keep him and play him. He's not going to jeopardise his England career by downing tools, so the only way you get him is by paying the money.
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Of course, that's how Riyad Mahrez deal was Agreed in the end.
 
Codie said:
Ah okay, well that’s completely fair enough in that case. Anyway, I don’t really like the idea of clubs unsettling other players in the hope they submit a transfer request. I hate Real doing it so I don’t want us doing it either.

What are your thoughts on whether he would hand in a transfer request, and what Leicester’s stance would be?

I personally don’t think he is the type, but of course none but Harry really know
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I think if he was going to eh would have by now, as for the clubs reaction, maybe they would be a little more flexible in terms of how much cash would be paid up front but I don't think it would change how much money the owners would demand for the transfer.

The one thing I guarantee is Harry will be getting a pay rise this summer either from us or you
 
Jimmy Skitz said:
he only had 2 years left on his deal and was a much more of an arsehole of a character going on strike etc. Maguire seems to be wired much differently
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Arsehole of a character? If you set unrealistic prices no club can ever match just because epl clubs don't need the money so should the player stop moving until his contract is finished? If the offer is decent with clubs making huge profit then setting unrealistic prices is very harsh on a player.

Players are humans too. You need to think from players perspective as well.

No body was saying he was an arsehole when he won you the league title.
 
Patrick08 said:
Arsehole of a character? If you set unrealistic prices no club can ever match just because epl clubs don't need the money so should the player stop moving until his contract is finished? If the offer is decent with clubs making huge profit then setting unrealistic prices is very harsh on a player.

Players are humans too. You need to think from players perspective as well.

No body was saying he was an arsehole when he won you the league title.
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oh shut up with the Pius attitude, it was perfectly reasonable to say to Riyad at the time, as he was told, had they come in with enough time for us to replace you we would have allowed it they didn't, he through his toys out of the pram and went on striker for a couple of weeks having spent the August deadline day in an airport waiting for a non existent transfer being completely disrespectful to the club and his teammates, all by the way, whilst being paid well over £100k a week, so yes I expect him to turn up and do his job and not have his agent come out and talk about him being treated as a slave.

This all happened after he released an open letter as if he had a move sorted and no one was interested in him except Roma who bid something like £30m and were rightly told to feck off as it was a laughable offer.

All he had to do was play out the season and he would have gotten his move, as it did anyway, but instead he made himself look like a spoiled little twat completely ruining his reputation at the club
 
The only reason he isn’t signed yet is because Ed & co think the price is outrageous. Rightly so.

It will continue to set a disgusting precedent and the short term gain - and risk - of having maguire at any costs will continue to hurt us in the next few years.

It’s not just a matter of ‘give ole what he wants’. I’m sure ole wants a sustainable stream of negotiations moving forward - if he truly wants to be here for the next 3+ years.

You can spin this 100 times and Maguire wouldn’t and shouldn’t be worth more than 60m.

Leicester have sold you all on the idea that he is anything more. Leicester also have the worst revenue to wages ratio and so they have made it clear to the market that they are negotiating with 0 rationale. They have no interest in selling.

It will be quite shocking and probably the last straw for Ed if he pulls the trigger on this.
 
Maguire must regret signing that 5 year deal. That was pretty stupid if he valued getting to a big team.
 
Jimmy Skitz said:
he'd just played in a World Cup semi final whilst at Leicester, it literally only gets one step bigger
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No disrespect but playing for Man Utd is a different level entirely from Leicester.
Irrespective of your league win- which he wasn't a part of anyway.
 
Which PL defender is potentially a good as Maguire, cheaper and attainable?

Why are we so limited in our pursuit? Why haven't we found someone else? WTF are our scouts good for?
 
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