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Sandikan said:
Always the issue on a forum - reading things in the wrong tone.
Dare say we've all written something that someone else has read as angrier than it felt :lol:
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Definitely, plus it's a very heated period for our club and a lot of fans are on edge, I'd confess myself included sometimes as well.

Glad that we are on the same page now. Let's hope for our sake that this thread will soon find its' conclusion, one way or the other, I'm tired of this transfer saga already.
 
Sandikan said:
But this summer we've had direct evidence of what happens when you don't get the right players in - you finish 6th.

To repeat that again would be incredible.
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It would be but not impossible or improbable. Any more business rests on selling lukaku i think
 
DoomSlayer said:
Definitely, plus it's a very heated period for our club and a lot of fans are on edge, I'd confess myself included sometimes as well.

Glad that we are on the same page now. Let's hope for our sake that this thread will soon find its' conclusion, one way or the other, I'm tired of this transfer saga already.
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Roll on the first game is all I say. Please let there be someone else new in that team, or we all know we'll underwhelm.
 
Mainoldo said:
Arsenal are spending £72m probably over 5 years. We’d be spending 60-70 in one big chunk. There’s a difference.
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Of course there's a difference but it doesn't negate my point. 72M is still a huge outlay, even though you can discount that amount based on the time value of money. Timing of the payment should only matter if we're cashflow restricted, which we shouldn't be.
 
Jezpeza said:
Its like last summer. No one believes the spending is done. Loads of sky clickbait. I think we are done. Numbers paid for AWB and James even mirror Fred and Dalot. Hope im wrong but i think thats it
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Hope you are wrong as that would be an absolute disgrace. Months of planning for this window and, if Lukaku goes as seems likely, that would leave us with a negative net spend.
 
George The Best said:
Hope you are wrong as that would be an absolute disgrace. Months of planning for this window and, if Lukaku goes as seems likely, that would leave us with a negative net spend.
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I hope so too but it doesn't look like anything is happening. This Maguire stuff is just hot air now IMHO, if we wanted him we’d just buy him
 
We made one bid some 3 or 4 weeks ago. If we offered 65m and Leicester said no thanks we want 90m, then we would have paid what they want by now or at least made a second improved bid, which we have not, or we have moved on. Alternatively, Ole wanted to make a judgement on Tuanzebe before moving on with a second bid or a bid for Upamecano or Tah.

I think that we can forget about signing Maguire. He is deemed too expensive.
 
Cathy Ferguson said:
We made one bid some 3 or 4 weeks ago. If we offered 65m and Leicester said no thanks we want 90m, then we would have paid what they want by now or at least made a second improved bid, which we have not, or we have moved on. Alternatively, Ole wanted to make a judgement on Tuanzebe before moving on with a second bid or a bid for Upamecano or Tah.

I think that we can forget about signing Maguire. He is deemed too expensive.
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Yeah I don't think he is even worth it. Its the board that is so incompetent that they don't have plan B
 
Cathy Ferguson said:
We made one bid some 3 or 4 weeks ago. If we offered 65m and Leicester said no thanks we want 90m, then we would have paid what they want by now or at least made a second improved bid, which we have not, or we have moved on. Alternatively, Ole wanted to make a judgement on Tuanzebe before moving on with a second bid or a bid for Upamecano or Tah.

I think that we can forget about signing Maguire. He is deemed too expensive.
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I think the press would have been briefed if this was the case.
 
for what it's worth I have just seen this.



I'm sure if this true, Harry will no doubt sign a new deal with us again, probably doubling his wages again, for the second year in a row, which I'm sure would ease his "personal calamity"
 
Jimmy Skitz said:
for what it's worth I have just seen this.



I'm sure if this true, Harry will no doubt sign a new deal with us again, probably doubling his wages again, for the second year in a row, which I'm sure would ease his "personal calamity"
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Who’s this guy? Seems very cocksure.
 
Jimmy Skitz said:
for what it's worth I have just seen this.



I'm sure if this true, Harry will no doubt sign a new deal with us again, probably doubling his wages again, for the second year in a row, which I'm sure would ease his "personal calamity"
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Reads like a massive wind up.
 
I admire the posters who have massive concerns with how much the club spends, it must be exhausting.

I've seen the club go from signing the likes of Rio, Ronaldo, Rooney and many more for modest fees to us spending 60 million on di Maria, paying Schweinsteiger, Falcao north of 200k, paying everton 75 million for Lukaku, paying Sanchez 600k a week. I could literally go on and on.

I couldn't care less about the finances of the club anymore, unless it puts us at risk of going into administration. Paying leicester 80 million quid instead of 60 million quid for a lump of a CB, who's good though, does not bother me at all.
 
predator said:
I admire the posters who have massive concerns with how much the club spends, it must be exhausting.

I've seen the club go from signing the likes of Rio, Ronaldo, Rooney and many more for modest fees to us spending 60 million on di Maria, paying Schweinsteiger, Falcao north of 200k, paying everton 75 million for Lukaku, paying Sanchez 600k a week. I could literally go on and on.

I couldn't care less about the finances of the club anymore, unless it puts us at risk of going into administration. Paying leicester 80 million quid instead of 60 million quid for a lump of a CB, who's good though, does not bother me at all.
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I agree with your overall point, but worth pointing out that Rooney's fee at the time was the highest ever paid for a player under 20, and Rio's was the highest fee ever paid for a defender, and also the British record. In fact, mad as it seems, seventeen years later Rio is still the thirteenth most expensive defender ever.

Neither fee can in any way be described as modest.
 
Brightonian said:
I agree with your overall point, but worth pointing out that Rooney's fee at the time was the highest ever paid for a player under 20, and Rio's was the highest fee ever paid for a defender, and also the British record. In fact, mad as it seems, seventeen years later Rio is still the thirteenth most expensive defender ever.

Neither fee can in any way be described as modest.
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Even with real inflation and football inflation they still are bargains. Modest maybe wasn't the right word, in all fairness. Maybe what I meant was that we used to get value for money but since Fergie retired I can only pick a handful of players who have given us value for money in that respective window.

So for me I've become numb to it all. Paying an extra 20 million for Maguire, provided he does what he does, is nothing in my book.
 
A large fee is easily forgotten if the product delivers.....

How quickly VVD fee or the goalie Alison fee has been forgotten because they added immediate value...

The only time the fee is an issue is when the product DOES NOT deliver....and then your left with the constant reminder of the astronomical wage they are on and how difficult it is to shift them.....

I believe Harry would be in the VVD or Alison category as his leadership qualities alone will enhance a Utd team needing a leader

I really really hope that Ed and his crew can see this and make it happen
 
I think Axel is the key to this will we, won’t we. If Axel goes on loan then Maguire is in. If Axel stays, which is looking likely now, then Maguire is off.
 
“There is disagreement between OGS & Ed Woodward over the decision, but the club will present a united front to media & shareholders. ”

This might get ugly. Can’t see that lasting long once results go badly. Assuming it’s true obviously, based on Rodgers comments other day and lack of movement it might be.
 
Rooney1987 said:
“There is disagreement between OGS & Ed Woodward over the decision, but the club will present a united front to media & shareholders. ”

This might get ugly. Can’t see that lasting long once results go badly. Assuming it’s true obviously, based on Rodgers comments other day and lack of movement it might be.
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Is that a credible report?
 
Alderweireld at £25m would have made a lot more sense, giving Tuanzebe (out on loan) and Ben Godfrey of Norwich 12 months in the Premier League to prove themselves worthy of coming back/being signed next summer.

A late bid for Kamara of Marseille before the window closes would be a shrewd move at this point; enormous potential, but still relatively under the radar and therefore probably gettable at a reasonable price.
 
Jimmy Skitz said:
for what it's worth I have just seen this.



I'm sure if this true, Harry will no doubt sign a new deal with us again, probably doubling his wages again, for the second year in a row, which I'm sure would ease his "personal calamity"
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I’ve never heard of this guy before.

Is he reliable or just someone that spouts a load of bulls***?
 
Gerald G said:
Nope it's definitely because he plays more as a left-sided CB Nice try though.
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He plays a lot of passes with his left, very comfortable with 2 feet. I got confused myself but yes plays on the left side and mainly right footed.

He was my first choice this year I think he’d suit our pressing game perfectly.
 
RedDevilRoshi said:
I’ve never heard of this guy before.

Is he reliable or just someone that spouts a load of bulls***?
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Rooney1987 said:
No idea. He tweets about Leicester a lot, might have an actual source or maybe he’s just Leicester version of Xisimon.
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I have no idea, just saw it posting on one of our forums so thought I'd share it
 
If we've ended our pursuit I'd expect Stone/Peach to Tweet fairly soon to confirm it.
 
predator said:
Even with real inflation and football inflation they still are bargains. Modest maybe wasn't the right word, in all fairness. Maybe what I meant was that we used to get value for money
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Wait, what? :lol: I just assumed you were being sarcastic!?.. you know they were both record fees for a defender & a teenager respectively at the time?

I mean, I agree with your general point...hence why the sarcasm made sense, but if you were being serious, then, yeah, no. They may have been bargains in hindsight, but at the time, they were HUGE outlays.

Anyway, carry on. But in future, pretend you were being sarcastic if it bolsters your argument. Rule 1227 of the Internet.
 
Mockney said:
Wait, what? :lol: I just assumed you were being sarcastic!?.. you know they were both record fees for a defender & a teenager respectively at the time?

I mean, I agree with your general point...hence why the sarcasm made sense, but if you were being serious, then, yeah, no. They may have been bargains in hindsight, but at the time, they were HUGE outlays.

Anyway, carry on. But in future, pretend you were being sarcastic if it bolsters your argument. Rule 1227 of the Internet.
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With all due respect sir, you've lost me. I wasnt being sarcastic in in any such way.

I said in my previous post that the word modest was used incorrectly. I know we were big spenders under fergie but my initial point was how little value for money we have been getting since he departed. Fergie had some awful signings but over the course of 27 years he was mostly successful.

Thanks for the advice regarding rules of the internet, I will take note.
 
predator said:
I admire the posters who have massive concerns with how much the club spends, it must be exhausting.

I've seen the club go from signing the likes of Rio, Ronaldo, Rooney and many more for modest fees to us spending 60 million on di Maria, paying Schweinsteiger, Falcao north of 200k, paying everton 75 million for Lukaku, paying Sanchez 600k a week. I could literally go on and on.

I couldn't care less about the finances of the club anymore, unless it puts us at risk of going into administration. Paying leicester 80 million quid instead of 60 million quid for a lump of a CB, who's good though, does not bother me at all.
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Modest fees? Here’s some of United’s signings adjusted for inflation..

Rooney £103.6m
Ferdinand: £121.7m
Veron: £115.9m
Keane: 111.2m
Yorke: £81m
Berbatov: £79.3m
Carrick: £90.2m
Van Nistelrooy: £76.9m
Stam £73.1m

We have always splashed the cash people don’t realise how much we spent, granted they’re all world class/developed into world class and worth it but we should be spending money. It’s wrong to say we spent modest fees on top players in the past though.
 
WireMUFC said:
Modest fees? Here’s some of United’s signings adjusted for inflation..

Rooney £103.6m
Ferdinand: £121.7m
Veron: £115.9m
Keane: 111.2m
Yorke: £81m
Berbatov: £79.3m
Carrick: £90.2m
Van Nistelrooy: £76.9m
Stam £73.1m

We have always splashed the cash people don’t realise how much we spent, granted they’re all world class/developed into world class and worth it but we should be spending money. It’s wrong to say we spent modest fees on top players in the past though.
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That list does not make sense. Berbatov was signed around the same time as Carrick, cost twice as much, how is his price less than him? And Carrick was a bargain at around 16m, how does that get inflated to 90m? Are you sure you weren't looking at a list about player value?
 
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