Chelsea lost Hazard, who was involved in like 50% of their goals last season. They’ve replaced him with Pulisic, who isn’t a goalscorer by any metric, and also just arrived. Not throwing a fit over every little thing isn’t pretending everything is O.K. A DOF wouldn’t change anything about this season’s prospects. Maybe, just maybe, a DOF could make his mark next season (provided that person started today).
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Haha so true.....one minute moaning there are no signings, no investment, complaining that we should identify targets and pay whatever it takes because we are utd, then moaning we are overpaying.....
There are a few crackers about VVD when they signed him tbf, rounded up by B20 here (gotta click into it to see the quotes)
Looking through the transfer thread I'm actually surprised how low he was rated at the time, similar to the Maguire thread. Generally "good player but not worth the fee". I mean, I don't think Maguire is worth the fee and I don't think he'll turn into the level of player VVD is.. but.. you never know? Right? RIGHT?
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Looking through the transfer thread I'm actually surprised how low he was rated at the time, similar to the Maguire thread. Generally "good player but not worth the fee". I mean, I don't think Maguire is worth the fee and I don't think he'll turn into the level of player VVD is.. but.. you never know? Right? RIGHT?
Haha have to love it dont you, I had some clown going on at me before, ranting were paying to much for Maguire, asked him to name me some alternatives this summer and shock horror he has disappeared haha
The annoying thing is that we have maybe £40m in potential incoming fees should anyone decide to buy Darmian, Rojo and Bailly. That seriously offsets the cost of Maguire at the same time as streamlining our options and removing some unwanted players. If we can lower that further by including Jones then it actually makes the cost of signing him very easy to digest.
I still think we need another left back though
I still think we need another left back though
I'm not saying i disagree mate if it was up to me i would just pay it. But the club are clearly trying to reverse the trend of being fleeced and the price going up when they come calling. Doubt they'll be successful in that endeavour though because it's been going on for decades.
Maybe we are milking the DOF market for free as long as poss. E.g. give us a plan of what you would do and we'll test it and potentially give you the job. Keep doing that every year and you have a revolving pool of DOF knowledge at no cost and with no big contract to pay off when it inevitably doesn't work.
Didn't he originally cost them over £40m?
Yep and I think he signed an extension not too long ago! I don’t know what’s going on thereDidn't he originally cost them over £40m?
He isHe's absolute garbage
I agree thry could be going was Maguire as the safe option' as being a good age exerience wise and knowing that he would not have to adjust to league and should fit into the team easily. When signing someone from abroad who may turn out be be be perfect for the team but take time to adjust if they ever do and could take too long waiting for them to settle and could potentially be a waste of £50-60m and could result in them just becoming another piece of deadwood von silly wages, which I don't think they would want to do as this would be a gamble which mightn't pay off and is something we can't affrd to risk at the moment.
Or the legend that was Weastedevil drawing around his flaccid cock and then uploading the picture to show everyone how well endowed he was
Stones can't defend. And do you seriously think Man City will sell us ANY player?
Hmmm. Can't defend and he plays for city and the national team and is successful with both. If city think Maguire is the better player it doesn't hurt to ask
Obviously fake , but still......
This has died down a bit. Thought he was getting a medical .
.Well to be fair Bissika and Shaw cost 80m
But we have brought an entire defence for £80m
Dalot.....Bailley....Jones....Rojo (that must total about 80M)
not sure Ive got much confidence in it though
Yeah let's play the game... cause we are in the position to play! We really have serious strong centre halves and shouldnt worry about starting the season again with them clowns... Leicester will get to the point where it's too late to deal, could be 7days left could be 5 or 4 days left, I'm not spoilt, I'm just sick of ed and co not closing deals out. If he done Maguire last summer we might be in CL and not down MILLIONS. He is great at earning club money, but he lost out on that one . And who the Fcuk is mark goldbridge
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Yeah let's play the game... cause we are in the position to play! We only have serious strong centre halves and shouldnt worry about starting the season again with them clowns... Leicester will get to the point where it's too late to deal, could be 7days left could be 5 or 4 days left, I'm not spoilt, I'm just sick of ed and co not closing deals out. If he done Maguire last summer we might be in CL and not down MILLIONS. He is great at earning club money, but he lost out on that one . And who the Fcuk is mark Woodbridge
as much as Mourinho was a Grade A, 5 star tossed this is a great point especially when you consider how poor we were and how slim the margins were
What has Castles said about this in the latest podcast?
If Ole wants him, then fair do. Let this quickly go over the line, please. Then go on to the next target (as our Club negotiators apparently can only do one at a time).
Oh nobody will name any alternatives. Just say I'd rather spend 40m on a center back and 40m elsewhere blah blah blah. The alternatives that get an occasional mention would be huge risks.
The neck hole is way too small. It needs to be a few feet wider so he can fit his head through.
Yep. It's as simple as that really. There is no one else out there who we can get who would be better
Caf for you my friend, anyone dare have an opinion get shot down immediately but god forbid they have any alternatives ha the bloke who had a pop today not heard from him since.
Thing is the way the market has gone over the last few years, Maguire was worth what 60/70M last summer, this year its 80M, next year could rise to 100M you just don't know.
I can't think of any available CBs this summer who would suit us better (Alderweireld for 25M is an absolute steal but looks like he is off to Roma).
Even next year, unless someone has a stellar season, same names will be getting mentioned for probably bigger prices.
That the Leicester owner changed his mind about the 60 + 20 deal and wants the whole 80m up front
Because that's of course the only explanation as to why Castles was wrong about the whole medial in 48 hours, couldn't possibly be because he was talking shit
Do we know it was Castles who claimed the deal was done and not Ian McGarry? McGarry's wrong all the time, like when he said we had an agreement with Juventus to pay Dybala's release clause.
Besides Koulibaly, De Ligt, Skriniar... Do you rate Maguire as the better CB compared with players like Alderweireld, Umtiti, Upamecano?
This may sound stupid given our finances but is it possible we're waiting for the Lukaku sale to finance this deal? Really can't see any other reason for the deal to have stagnated for so long without us moving on to someone else.
We've already bid on him twice so no. Clearly just trying to negotiate a better deal.
it's so tough to compare players who are at completely different points in their careers. Alderweireld is class, but 30 and is probably looking for one more paycheck. Upamecano has missed half a year now because of a knee injury, but the upside is huge ... which is also why he wouldn't be available anyway, Leipzig doesn't need to sell. I've never really understood the fuss about Umtiti, to me he's solid but nothing special.
If Upamecano were available, I'd prefer him over Maguire. I'd take Maguire over the others, honestly ... but I admit I rate him higher than others.
This was exactly me. I could not for the life of me understand what VVD hype was all about. I thought 60 million was a laugh. He never seemed anything special other than a decent ball playing CB. I laughed at th 75 million and even had arguments on here about how he's no better than what we have except he can pass. Foot in mouth I hold my hands up in shame. What do I know. Looks a bargain these days
simple solution offer us a straight swap, Lukaku for Maguire
Only once I thought, it sounded from Rodgers last night like the two bids were from different clubs (us and City)
Just thought I would bump this up again! Still the case, we are standing firm for ridiculous money. Maguire still thinking the same.
Fair enough you've changed my view a bit. I agree with what you've said, I just hope it turns out to be VVD-esque for us if we do get him.
Unfortunately for you guys, you paid ridiculous money for Wan Bissaka and that has resulted in other prices going up.
so how did juventus get de ligt for only 67m and not over 100m surely ajax could of demanded more.
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