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Vault Dweller said:
Yes he was. Them signing VVD was always going to be a great investment.
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It's funny you say that because at the time Liverpool signed him you said:

"He's a good player and will probably improve them, but my word £75 million is an insane fee."

I don't know if Maguire would be worth the 80 million, but the revisionism regarding VVD is pretty funny.
 
You would think it is the Cafs own money on here, jesus christ, 50M is to much for Wan Biasska but who cares he looks class at RB, we moan when we don't invest, we moan when we do, we don't half have some miserable bloody fans I tell you, never happy with anything.

I just hope he signs, he has a top season and I can't wait to be back on here setting up a thread and seeing where everyone is slagging him off, no doubt by then it will be "oh I was right behind this deal from the off".
 
Dec9003 said:
It's funny you say that because at the time Liverpool signed him you said:

"He's a good player and will probably improve them, but my word £75 million is an insane fee."

I don't know if Maguire would be worth the 80 million, but the revisionism regarding VVD is pretty funny.
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Haha love that, nothing like the Caf contradicting themselves constantly haha
 
sincher said:
We should walk away. De Ligt is going for ~£65m, Trippier for ~£25m.. this just looks like a really a bad idea. Paying big fees for really top players is fine, absolutely fine, but I am not at all convinced Maguire is that, and it would mean we don't have the money for someone else.
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DeLigt was a gentleman’s agreement not to price him out of a move
 
Smores said:
You'd think considering how many failed attempts at signing young CBs with potential we have had and how we're unable to shift them, that we'd have less fans crying out for more experiments.

Thats not even limited to post fergie either.
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Indeed.... its almost like maybe, just maybe Ole/United has a plan to change that particular problem.
 
Dec9003 said:
It's funny you say that because at the time Liverpool signed him you said:

"He's a good player and will probably improve them, but my word £75 million is an insane fee."

I don't know if Maguire would be worth the 80 million, but the revisionism regarding VVD is pretty funny.
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Fair enough. Don't see what my quoting the amount has to do with anything but fair enough on the WC part.
 
With Phil Jones on £120k p/w he would either have to take a pay cut or United would have to pay a portion of it because not a chance would he come in as our 2nd highest paid player, not that I think we would take him in a deal anyway
 
It's still taking a long time to get this transfer over the line. Have we someone else in mind.??
 
StrettyEnder07 said:
You would think it is the Cafs own money on here, jesus christ, 50M is to much for Wan Biasska but who cares he looks class at RB, we moan when we don't invest, we moan when we do, we don't half have some miserable bloody fans I tell you, never happy with anything.

I just hope he signs, he has a top season and I can't wait to be back on here setting up a thread and seeing where everyone is slagging him off, no doubt by then it will be "oh I was right behind this deal from the off".
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It's strange. Lots of people seem to be worried about the "embarrassment" of paying a large fee for someone who might be worth a little less than what we pay, even though it would save us the much larger embarrassment of lining up with the chuckle brothers at the back again next season.
 
Fox1884 said:
With Phil Jones on £120k p/w he would either have to take a pay cut or United would have to pay a portion of it because not a chance would he come in as our 2nd highest paid player, not that I think we would take him in a deal anyway
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Jones is a good player for a middling club.

His brainfarts are overblown but he is certainly not top class.
 
Andersons Dietician said:
What?! He was probably the 2nd best defender in our league after Alderweireld at the time. Actually could have been the previous season before the move.
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Ofcourse, looking back you will say that. So saying that, Maguire is probably in the top 5 CB in our league.
 
StrettyEnder07 said:
You would think it is the Cafs own money on here, jesus christ, 50M is to much for Wan Biasska but who cares he looks class at RB, we moan when we don't invest, we moan when we do, we don't half have some miserable bloody fans I tell you, never happy with anything.

I just hope he signs, he has a top season and I can't wait to be back on here setting up a thread and seeing where everyone is slagging him off, no doubt by then it will be "oh I was right behind this deal from the off".
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Exactly, if we signed Trippier for £25m everyone would be like Cheap c*** should have paid for AWB.

Although with Maguire, we all have similar questions about him, Ole wants him, he wants to come to United, he is a ready made CB that will improve our defence, lets get behind it and move on?
 
Vault Dweller said:
Fair enough. Don't see what my quoting the amount has to do with anything but fair enough on the WC part.
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Well there's two things really. One, it would be intellectually dishonest of me to quote half of what you said. Second, you said he was always going to be a great investment.
 
Handré1990 said:
You’re really miserable, aren’t you? After last season, where we came oh so close after Mourinho, you think we’ll be worse off this season looking at Arsenal and Chelsea?

Whining is fine when you’re actually whining over something real. This is just gratuitous, though.
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but pretending everything is OK achieves so much... yes, we are worse off then Chelsea because their squad was already better than ours last season (as shown by the final group table, not the one in February). agreed arsenal may be weak too but that still doesn't get us into the top four
 
AdNani said:
This place is unreal, the amount of people crying, bitching and moaning about the price and then you have people complaining we haven’t completed it yet, we’re negotiating it takes time

We’ve also done more business than anyone in the top 6 ffs.

Swear people are just being negative for the sake of it
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Ever heard the saying about quality and quantity? My post showed that we could even get bad deals done! Being negative because it is realistic to be o - or do you think we are going to win things next season?
 
Pay Leicester 80 million and get this over with. United needed a quality CB badly. Right now Maguire is the best one available. You could argue whether he's worth 80 million or not. But the fact is he's much better than every single CB that United has right now, and he wanted to come here.
 
devilish said:
Nah he is a train wreck
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He gets more scrutiny because of the club he represents plus the fact he makes funny faces when tackling.

The reality is that he would probably be a good buy for a middling team where there is less media focus – and it would help if he stays fit.

He has had some bad errors but to be honest I have also seen Maguire drop a few bollocks in the last couple of years.
 
golden_blunder said:
Thanks @devilish
I take his point but at the same time he’s not going to survive here if he takes offense at everything
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I wonder how these guys would survive the likes of Davo and an extremely boring man. They would have ripped them to shreds
 
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Redcy said:
I really like Diop, I do, but he is 22, investing 60-70m is a huge risk. For years we have been trying to buy up and coming centre backs who might become top class, and we have failed every single time (including Lindelof). The other players people mention are similar Konate, Tah, Dias are all young players who are going to cost 50m, with the same risk of becoming the next Smalling/Bailly/Lindelof. We can't afford to blood them in gradually if we are paying 50-60m so we would need to have them come in as starter, which is difficult given most players have to come in and adjust esp if they are young and from a different league.

The really top quality players are unavailable to us at the moment, so the obvious choice might have been to get Alderweireld and wait a year. However that doesn't seem to be an option we are going to risk, truth is with the way prices have gone we could wait a year and find that Maguire is 85m and a Varane would be 150m (if he isn't that already).
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I agree that £60-70m is a huge risk but I think he may be worth it. I don't know much about the players you mentioned in bold and agree that they would be a risk and even if they do come here they may time to adjust, which I don't believe we have time for.
I think we need a defender who is ready now which I think Diop is ready for. If we were to sign Diop in my opinion we would benefit as he is already accustomed to the Premier League and also having played 33 games for West Ham last season, suggests to me that he is capable of starting every game this season, which makes it advantageous over signing a defender from a different league . He also has leadership qualities as he has captained Toulouse in the past and also the France under 23 team. He also has a fair amount of experience playing in 123 games of which 110 were in the League although most of them in France mate.
 
Redcy said:
Oh and anyone mentioning Trippier being in the same league as Maguire clearly isn't watching any football.
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Or rather has watched football for a long time and knows that last season does not define everything. I bet almost anything in the world that before this season you would absolutely have said they were about the same level... oh and btw Maguire has not been outstanding himself this year. To my mind both Trippier and Maguire are good, but not great - similar level. Let's see how Trippier does at Atletico - not a bad club to be going to...
 
When Liverpool paid 75m I thought that was stupid money. But what do I know. I thought VVD was not that impressive, especially when he played against us, many times he was beaten by 35 years old Ibrahimovic in the air and 20 years old Martial on the ground. I thought there must be something he has we football fans we cant see. Everybody talks about potentials he had when he was there at Southampton. But what is the level of potential? Ake is a potential, Axel is also a potential etc. I think If Ole think Maguire has something that is going to complete his defense then 70m and 80m should not be a reason to stop Ole from bringing him.
 
Bestietom said:
Oh, I like Golden Blunder, just having a little banter.
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No worries however please don't forget that mods are posters first and mods afterwards. They deserve to express their opinions and have fun in here like the rest of us.

Aldo words like bastards and cnuts are the norm in here. Oh well rant over :)
 
romufc said:
Ofcourse, looking back you will say that. So saying that, Maguire is probably in the top 5 CB in our league.
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Looking back? He was as stated the 2nd best in the league, there was no hindsight in that. If you were on talking reds it was always talked about and how he should be the CB we were moving for even before Liverpool had that summer of interest.
 
shaky said:
It's strange. Lots of people seem to be worried about the "embarrassment" of paying a large fee for someone who might be worth a little less than what we pay, even though it would save us the much larger embarrassment of lining up with the chuckle brothers at the back again next season.
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I find it mental, his value is probably what 60M ish? I mean 60M and yeah we are paying 20M to much but if we wait as no other CBs really available and I do not want to be paying 60/70 for Diop, no chance, the prices are only going to increase next year, get him signed and hopefully Tuanzebe comes on as well so for CBs we are sorted going forward.

I think people just love to have a moan on here mate, favorite pass time haha
 
romufc said:
Exactly, if we signed Trippier for £25m everyone would be like Cheap c*** should have paid for AWB.

Although with Maguire, we all have similar questions about him, Ole wants him, he wants to come to United, he is a ready made CB that will improve our defence, lets get behind it and move on?
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Totally agree buddy, all the ones moaning will be loving him and giving it the big I am come December "Oh I told the Caf we should pay the money, I was right all along" haha
 
Eric's Seagull said:
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I agree that £60-70m is a huge risk but I think he may be worth it. I don't know much about the players you mentioned in bold and agree that they would be a risk and even if they do come here they may time to adjust, which I don't believe we have time for.
I think we need a defender who is ready now which I think Diop is ready for. If we were to sign Diop in my opinion we would benefit as he is already accustomed to the Premier League and also having played 33 games for West Ham last season, suggests to me that he is capable of starting every game this season, which makes it advantageous over signing a defender from a different league . He also has leadership qualities as he has captained Toulouse in the past and also the France under 23 team. He also has a fair amount of experience playing in 123 games of which 110 were in the League although most of them in France mate.
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Like I say he would be a good buy, but I can see why United might be hesitant with our history of fecking up CB buys. Diop seems to me to be the only defender who could be viable but he has at least played over here, I wonder if the "safe" option is the main reason to go maguire here.
 
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