Right on mate. Well said.
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Right on mate. Well said.
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Who cares how much he costs. If he has a similar impact to van Dijk, then will anyone be bothered? And let's face it, van Dijk was nowhere near the level that he is at now with Liverpool when he was with Southampton so it's possible Maguire could do something similar.
He's strong, dominant in the air, good on the ball, threat from set-pieces, leadership qualities, prem experience. Why the hell would we spend 40m instead on some "up and coming" CB instead of 80m on a proven quantity who will come in and have an instant impact. We spent 80m combined on Bailly, Lindelof and Rojo in the last few seasons. Rojo needs to go, Bailly too. Lindelof still has question marks over his head.
Does anyone think spending another 40m on a CB like Upemacano, Milenkovic (can't think of any more right now) is the right think to do? Is it 'smarter' than spending than 80m on Maguire. We need the right players in, no matter the cost. Maguire is the right player, he's what we need right now, not what we might need in a few years time. He'll have an instant impact. Maybe in 5 years time, if we're where we want to be, and Lindelof and Maguire are pushing 30/31, then we chance signing young guys.
Personally, if this transfer goes through, I think its smart business. 80m on Maguire to me is much better than 40m on two potential talents. Quality over quantity every day of the week. Lindelof, Smalling, Maguire and keep one of the other spoofers and we're looking much better already, with Bissaka on the right flank and Shaw on the left.
Next we can focus on midfield and attack, either this window or the next 2. Rome wasn't built in a day, there's no point in square pegs in round holes. Spend the money on the right players, not the most 'financially efficient'. This whole 'but x and y for 90m, recoup 40% by selling z'. These player swap deals are just nonsense to me too, imo. We should never be accepting another clubs seconds as an excuse not to spend money. Remember when Spurs sold Bale, and bought like 6 players (Lamela, Erikson, Capoue, Soldado etc.) Imagine they just bought Eriksen and another top player for 60m.
Don't sell quality and replace quality with more players of less quality, you can only fit 11 guys on the pitch at once. We've spent how much in the last 6/7 years? 700m? Just imagine for a second, instead of 700m worth of squad options, we bought 10 players worth 70m each. Do you think we'd be better off? I'd say forget about the money, it's not our money. He should be judged based on the standard of United player needed, not some cost/depreciation as a function of age formula, and how it affects our yearly net spend.
He's strong, dominant in the air, good on the ball, threat from set-pieces, leadership qualities, prem experience. Why the hell would we spend 40m instead on some "up and coming" CB instead of 80m on a proven quantity who will come in and have an instant impact. We spent 80m combined on Bailly, Lindelof and Rojo in the last few seasons. Rojo needs to go, Bailly too. Lindelof still has question marks over his head.
Does anyone think spending another 40m on a CB like Upemacano, Milenkovic (can't think of any more right now) is the right think to do? Is it 'smarter' than spending than 80m on Maguire. We need the right players in, no matter the cost. Maguire is the right player, he's what we need right now, not what we might need in a few years time. He'll have an instant impact. Maybe in 5 years time, if we're where we want to be, and Lindelof and Maguire are pushing 30/31, then we chance signing young guys.
Personally, if this transfer goes through, I think its smart business. 80m on Maguire to me is much better than 40m on two potential talents. Quality over quantity every day of the week. Lindelof, Smalling, Maguire and keep one of the other spoofers and we're looking much better already, with Bissaka on the right flank and Shaw on the left.
Next we can focus on midfield and attack, either this window or the next 2. Rome wasn't built in a day, there's no point in square pegs in round holes. Spend the money on the right players, not the most 'financially efficient'. This whole 'but x and y for 90m, recoup 40% by selling z'. These player swap deals are just nonsense to me too, imo. We should never be accepting another clubs seconds as an excuse not to spend money. Remember when Spurs sold Bale, and bought like 6 players (Lamela, Erikson, Capoue, Soldado etc.) Imagine they just bought Eriksen and another top player for 60m.
Don't sell quality and replace quality with more players of less quality, you can only fit 11 guys on the pitch at once. We've spent how much in the last 6/7 years? 700m? Just imagine for a second, instead of 700m worth of squad options, we bought 10 players worth 70m each. Do you think we'd be better off? I'd say forget about the money, it's not our money. He should be judged based on the standard of United player needed, not some cost/depreciation as a function of age formula, and how it affects our yearly net spend.
It’s going to take 2-3 years of introducing 2-3 players per season for Solskjaer to rebuild the side. Maguire is definitely a decent CB and a commanding presence that United have needed since Rio/Vidic partnership went back in 2014. His fee is bonkers and only time or trophies will tell whether he’s worth it or not.
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Yeah if we don't have a solid defense next season it wouldn't be because of the quality of the players there.
They said that after the supposed £70m bid we made. Our transfer 'sagas' have been strange to say the least this summer.
In addition to that tweet there are other journos saying that we're simply interested in Maguire but not at the prices being discussed.
Ah well he’s shit anyway
Xisimon just replied.
I think he should reword that tweet. They have received a bid the 70mil one he himself wrote about a few weeks back. Maybe not a new one that was reported yesterday.
Harry Maguire Vs. Virgil Van Dijk - Fun facts and stats 2018/19;
"Maguire had 195 recoveries to Van Dijk's 193 last season, had a better success at aerial duels of 78.1% to 74.9% and made 1.2 interceptions a game to the Liverpool defender's 1.1. Both men scored three goals each and made on average one tackle a game in the league. Van Dijk does still lead on duel success, 76.3% to 72.7%, pass accuracy, 89.7% to 85.6%, caused 0.6 offsides more per game and had 0.3 more clearances per game.
Of course the Reds' defender famously wasn't dribbled past at all in the league last season, we might have mentioned it, but Maguire was only got past 0.2 times per game himself".
"Maguire had 195 recoveries to Van Dijk's 193 last season, had a better success at aerial duels of 78.1% to 74.9% and made 1.2 interceptions a game to the Liverpool defender's 1.1. Both men scored three goals each and made on average one tackle a game in the league. Van Dijk does still lead on duel success, 76.3% to 72.7%, pass accuracy, 89.7% to 85.6%, caused 0.6 offsides more per game and had 0.3 more clearances per game.
Of course the Reds' defender famously wasn't dribbled past at all in the league last season, we might have mentioned it, but Maguire was only got past 0.2 times per game himself".
We already outbid the other sides in transfer fee and wages. De Ligt wasn't interested in coming here.
Maybe not everybody's first choice this, but it feels like a very sensible move.
Overpriced sure, but this is just the pill we have to swallow until we can get back to challenging for the top honours. We're desperate and everybody knows it. Add to that players likely not being as attracted to us these days as they once were and of course we're going to get gouged.
But hey ho, a few more AWB / Maguire type signings and we'll be a much more attractive prospect, will be able to stop with the huge desperation wages and start building something sustainable.
Feels good to me, fingers crossed.
Overpriced sure, but this is just the pill we have to swallow until we can get back to challenging for the top honours. We're desperate and everybody knows it. Add to that players likely not being as attracted to us these days as they once were and of course we're going to get gouged.
But hey ho, a few more AWB / Maguire type signings and we'll be a much more attractive prospect, will be able to stop with the huge desperation wages and start building something sustainable.
Feels good to me, fingers crossed.
McGarry didn't say that Leicester had agreed fee with us for Maguire. He said we had offered Leicester £60m upfront with a additional £20m in add ons. But Leicester want £80m straight up.
I've just finished listening to the Podcast.
I've just finished listening to the Podcast.
It's no secret Stone is a mouthpiece for some higher up at the club, possibly Woodward or Judge. Why does this Xisimon guy think Stone is supposed to be an investigative journalist or one of those scummy people at The Sun who hack into people's phones?
More expensive than VVD? 
What if Xisimon is just Simon Stone on a different account?
Let’s be honest none of them know shit. Simon Stone is clueless yet BBC seem to be treated as gospel.
Our defense has been in a constant state of flux since around the time Vidic did his knee in in Europe (CSKA? Shakhtar?).
These prices on AWB and MacGyver are jagged pills to swallow but necessary unfortunately...
Now there’s a man to make solutions out of literally anything at his disposal!
Yeah overpriced but no one will care about the fee if he is a success and as a team we win trophies. If we don't then we will hear his price mentioned everyday. That's how it is.
Damn right. Has me sold.
Glazers take a more or less same fixed dividend each year. I hate that they take even as much as they do, but it’s incorrect to assume that if we don’t spend on transfers then glazers pocket that money.
A leader in defense like De Ligt would have been great. Even if De Ligt is cheaper than Maguire, we could have sell him in 6 years and recover that money to sign another top CB. In the same amount of time, Maguire will be 32. It would be difficult to recover what we invested.
Juve could easily sell De Ligt even more expensive. So it would be like a free player for them because that would pay their wages.
I agree with you about the midfielders. Rodri and N'Dombele next to Pogba were what we needed. I haven't seen enough of Longstaff, but I'm not quite sure he would be a big improvement in our midfield if we sign him.
That is small club levels of thinking there. The point of acquiring players is to win us trophies. Trophy won means money well invested right there. Anything else is a bonus. Let your Tottenhams and your Dortmunds worry about selling values.
Does he play as RCB or LCB?
The latter.
yikes
. funniest thing I have read in a while in the whole internet. And may not even be a joke in the first place.
I personally don't care to much about the price, but a huge amount of people do. Just look at how much Pogba was and is beaten with the price tag stick and this while being head and shoulders our best player. Maguire is going to be compared week in week out to VVD, De Ligt, KK. The higher the price the higher the expectations and while i think this is silly, i do think it can have an impact over the player himself, the pressure i mean.
Having said that, i do trust Ole to create a much better environment and unity in the dressing room then the special needs one, so i'm not against this move. Our defense, at least on paper, should be much better.
Then he would be better paired with Bailly/Smalling
Lindelof is better on the right.
I think you will still care about the price, if the sum is over a certain limit you could tolerate.
For example, some people may not care if it’s 10-20m difference, what if we signed Maguire for say 200m, would you not care?
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Why? Lindelöf performs better as DCR than DCL. Actually, all our central defenders - besides Rojo - are best as DCR.
No one is better paired with Bailly, the blokes a disaster unfortunately.
So let's get this straight , the only sources reporting a "deal" were castles and the Sun? Says it all really
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