Totally agree with this
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Totally agree with this
It’s done. That Simon guy has been bang on.
Is there really nobody else we could sign for 80 million? Is maguire really the best our scouting department can do? I really hope this guy transforms us because thats a lot of cash.
Why not spend that money on De Light? He wants to join whoever will give him the most salary and we can certainly do that. 80M on Maguire is such a waste. Even more so than spending money on Alexis. At least Alexis was world class... Maguire will not get anywhere near that level.
You talked to De Ligt so you'd know who he wants to join?
He actually only called the time of their announcements, most likely breaking a press embargo. Doubt his ‘contact’ is at United. Most of his stuff is garbage other than that.
A mere youngster just like Jesse. Must be the beanz.
I agreed. Hopefully it’s £60m + 20m of add ons. Dunno why that makes it better. Just does!
From what i have heard Maguire is more of a sure fit to United as he has played in the premier league the last few seasons and de ligt we would have to pay him a million dollars and week just to keep him. While yes i would definitely prefer de ligt, maguire has his upsides (big upsides):
- His wages would cost a lot less (most likely)
- He wouldn't need adjusting to the premier league as he already plays here
- he's got an easier agent to work with (not raiola)
- he would bring experience and leadership to the backline
- He's comfortable on the ball as well
- And can score headers
Whereas De ligt can be another sanchez. Pay him a lot but just doesn't work out due to injuries, lack of form, etc. Im not saying that Maguire is the better player and he'll succeed where De Ligt would fail but Maguire is definitely the safe option. If he has an impact anything Like VVD at liverpool i think most of us will be pretty happy with the 80 million price tag.
- His wages would cost a lot less (most likely)
- He wouldn't need adjusting to the premier league as he already plays here
- he's got an easier agent to work with (not raiola)
- he would bring experience and leadership to the backline
- He's comfortable on the ball as well
- And can score headers
Whereas De ligt can be another sanchez. Pay him a lot but just doesn't work out due to injuries, lack of form, etc. Im not saying that Maguire is the better player and he'll succeed where De Ligt would fail but Maguire is definitely the safe option. If he has an impact anything Like VVD at liverpool i think most of us will be pretty happy with the 80 million price tag.
The negativity on here is ridiculous, Maguire is the type of signing we used to make, I for one an overjoyed if this proves to be true.
As for the £80 million, I am far more concerned that we haven't gotten rid of any of the overpaid dross that is costing us far more than anything we are "overpaying" here
As for the £80 million, I am far more concerned that we haven't gotten rid of any of the overpaid dross that is costing us far more than anything we are "overpaying" here
Get real he would not come
Clue is in the bold. Only way we can get rid of the ‘overpaid dross’ is either on a free or a loan. Either way we will likely end up subsidising their wages.
He didn’t, he rejected us.
We gave it our best shot but he was drawn to the given fact of winning the title every year, CR7’s charm helped too.
Will be a good signing, leader big time what we need, and the negativity as others have said is unprecedented on here, we will defo sell some useless CBs who don't play anyway and the net spend will make this very good business, leader, brave, positive on the ball, goal threat it ticks so many boxes.
No way we can bring De Ligt. He is getting 12m euros net per year att Juventus, that is 400 k a week. We can not compete with that.
The Sun, Goal.com have reported
The fact he feels to need to do that tells me he doesn’t know much at all.
The fact he feels to need to do that tells me he doesn’t know much at all.
Yeah I know, the point I was making was that £10-20 million over the top for Maguire is far less than we will waste of players that should be jettisoned, yet the fans on this post think that Maguire's price tag is somehow an issue for the club.
How we get rid of the dross is another issue, but it certainly isn't by renewing their contracts as we have been doing, I reckon the only way forward is to pay player's compensation for loss of wages as a result of a move, a signing off fee if you will
If we had a decent clear out, even paying compensation the club would have so much space in the wage budget that overpaying a little on signings would be easily offset.
And why are people still harping on about De Ligt as if we didn't try to sign him and were rejected by the player?
Or that we haven't looked at alternatives, i.e Diop where West Ham wanted even more than Leicester did for Maguire...
Posters on here have a serious screw loose to much FM
He gets bombarded with questions, id go the opposite and say him doubling down shows extra confidence.
Must be embarrassing to run on here preaching about arrogance and being condescending only for this news to break 24 hours later.
Looks like we have adapted to English wealth in 2019..
I'm warming up to this signing. will be best fit alongside Lindelof & bring some steal back into the team.
Well actually, if reports are to be believed - and it's a big if - that doesn't appear to be the case. They're asking for more than £20m than last summer, and Maguire himself seems frustrated by his club's stance.
But I think this just comes down to semantics as we're ultimately arguing the same thing. The reason why Leicester are asking over the odds for a decent CB who hasn't really achieved anything of note in the game is because they are under no pressure financially to sell, nor do they want to.
Arguing over the validity/worth of transfer fees is largely fruitless as they are ultimately determined by the context of the two clubs involved in the deal more so than players across the game being judged against one another. That said, look at every player in the history of the game to be sold for £80m or more. Maguire is nowhere near their standard, and he never will be. Right now, he is desperately needed by Utd and his club don't want to sell, hence the understandable inflation. But just because this inflation can be explained away doesn't nullify the fundamental element that he simply is nowhere near the standard of any other footballer to have transferred for a fee that he's currently demanding.
He wants to leave. Utd want him. And Leicester are looking to get every £ they can from any deal. It's greedy, but justified.
Yep. They're aslking for slightly more on an already outrageous bid. That's greed but good luck to them.
Well if that's the case then we should close up shop if we can't take calculated risks like this.
Nothing is ever a guarantee, just ask Sanchez. But personally, if the alternative is keep what we have, that would be worse than taking the risk.
Announce slabhead
Agree, get rid, clear the books. Take a hit while we are still making lots of money.
I like the move (if its legit). Maguire and Lindelof the starting pair with Smalling and whatever flavor of the month/healthy/not suspended CB between Bailly, Rojo, Jones as the backup for cups games and such this year aint bad.
In this thread: why didn’t we buy players that were not available to buy/didn’t want to come to us?
Steel and the Swedish snus machine is something that really doesnt go well together..
I like that we sort of defence first and foremost. A good team is built from the back, we conceded too much last season.
Even the Wan-Bissaka ‘story’ of delayed due to U21’s wasn’t true. Aidy Boothroyd was quoted as saying his participation in the U21’s would not stand in his way of completing a transfer and that they would let him facilitate a move if required.
The alternative is to look at someone else.
So the speculation is that we will pay £60m with the rest in add ons?
Pretty good deal tbf in this market.
Pretty good deal tbf in this market.
I'm guessing these are the definitive Simon tiers?
1. Stone
2. Peach
3. Xi
1. Stone
2. Peach
3. Xi
I'm also one who's not really sure how good Maguire is, but we'll find out once we sign him.
So either the Telegraph are going to be made to look like mugs, or none of the other sources are anywhere near being correct.
why not spend the money on De Ligt?
FFS as if we have that choice
FFS as if we have that choice
Or, “why didn’t we get [italian based centre half nobody is really after who’s definitely going to be great even though I’ve never seen him...]”
Good signing if it comes off. Solid, improves us in a key area from day one and looks like a player who could step up a level.
Good business in my opinion. Addressing a need. Hopefully not the last.
Seems to be contrasting reports on this,however the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.
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