Good post. He's a very, very important signing.
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Good post. He's a very, very important signing.
Visionary. Misunderstood genius...
I did write carp on purpose, but that did make me chuckle. Well played.
Edit: Missed a chance to make a potato joke, and I’m very disappointed with myself.
Wouldn't take offence from what is essentially a vegetable.
I don't like Inter but I do wonder what does Inter has to do with all this? Inter is doing what everyone is doing ie take our naive negotiation team for a ride.
Not entirely convinced by him but it's better than what we have. No more Smalling, Jones and Young in our defence is a step forward.
The price is very disturbing but let's hope it's forgotten when the football starts.
The price is very disturbing but let's hope it's forgotten when the football starts.
Generally footballers want to play, so if they can see that they may not get many starts, I think they may angle for a move. If any club comes in for any of them (probably not Tuanzebe) then we may see them gone.
You make some valid points but who would you rather we were signing? Mbappe "only" had 1 good season too. De Ligt has acheived as much in 1 season as Maguire has in his career. Lots of shit players are/were England internationals.
I don't know why Woodward feels players like Jones have any resale value - they don't. I think the club are probably struggling to sell Rojo due to his wages. I believe last window we were haggling over Darmian's fee so he wasn't sold.
fair. I just find it funny that so many posters automatically use the 80m although we have no idea what the structure actually is.
Providing he comes, we'll have had sorted 2 of our 5 pressing issues RB/CB/CM/RW/CF. Improving 4 of them is neccessary.
United are negotiating well in this instance if we are rejecting these stupid offers and asking for more.
Okay I gotcha. I still disagree even that an £80M (£60M + addons) is crazy because when considering the market factors of increasingly inflated prices (thank you oil clubs), Premier League teams having less incentive to sell, a Leicester team that has big goals to accomplish and has tasted success already, and the fact that clubs know United are desperate to buy, then the fee actually makes plenty of sense. Years as recent as 2016 and 2017 are already ancient in terms of high prices. We can't compare to those times.
Let's hope he is the dominating, organising central defender that we need. I hope Tuanzebe will get some starts alongside him, as I think he would probably be the quickest of our CB's, and probably the one with the most potential.
I have a gut feeling that Greenwood is being earmarked for RW/CF. Hopefully we will sign a CB and a CM.
Hopefully he will step up a level here. It's happened before.
I know not many players have gone up a level here in years, but that's the hope. Instantly improves the team, and steps up a notch too.
Might be the case for Bailly since he is younger, but Rojo and Jones are probably planning for retirement.
The market environment for Juventus is completely different to ours. They could also be rigging the system in their favor again for all we know based on their history.
That's a daft comment
After all said and done, he had a great eye for a bargain.
Baines, Tim Cahill, Coleman, Stones were all signed for pennies.
Most posters read the headlines and base their novella-length opinions on them.
The fact we need a centre back and he is a centre back doesnt mean there is absolutely no doubt the fee is worth it at all, though personally I coulnt give a toss about any fee unless it affects our other business.
Personally also cant see a good partnership between him and the massively over rated Lindelof. Both are not particularly quick, especially on the turn. I actually think they are very similar players, but Maguire is better in all areas, especially in the air and in terms of strength.
Leadership qualities, maybe, maybe not, he hasnt captained anybody though has he?
If Maguire is our only centre back signing, yes it certainly improves us, any good centre back would as we dont actually have any. I have always thougth we need two new centre backs and would think that even more if Maguire is signed.
I do think there are a lot of better centre backs we can get on the continent for a much smaller fee though. Nunez, Hermoso, Upamecano, Konate would all probably be half the price then for the kind of fees mentioned for Magurie you could probably be bidding for the likes of Romagnoli....Of course none have premiership experience of know the club like Maguie would being ENglish. I just think Maguire is a good signing (which in itself isnt a bad thing considering the average at best ones we have made for years now) but we could be making great ones with some of the other neames
Maybe we should hire him as a scout
I’m hoping for that too.
We should have hired him as a scout back in 2013, I think he’s done now.
Also the Moyes curse may have just been lifted with his six year contract finally expiring lately, let’s see what it does first.
Nothing on the main media outlets, is this even true or pie in the sky?
The signings of Maguire (should we manage it) and Wan Bissaka potentially make us a significantly better team front to back. I’m really looking forward to the impact that a meaner, more aggressive and dynamic defence has on our midfield.
I think it will be 60M plus add ons or a player included like Jones/Baily/Smalling if they are interested.
It’s insane but I am OK with this signing as it improves our situation rather Glazers Pockets!
Another CM and an Attacker would help
It’s insane but I am OK with this signing as it improves our situation rather Glazers Pockets!
Another CM and an Attacker would help
Which lines up with what I heard and saw. Evans was better and Maguire had a worse season than the previous season.
They're back from France, they play Scunthorpe away on Wednesday
I have long lost hope in Judge/Woodward's art of negotiation. We're talking about the same guys who buried Sanchez in cash and who gave Jones a 5 year contract. Also refusing to sell Lukaku for 70m is hardly a brilliant act considering Ole doesn't seem to want him here, he doesn't want to stay either, Inter are the only ones willing to pay and they can't really do better in given circumstances. We're risking that we'll end up with an unhappy player at our midst whom the manager doesn't rate.
I am not saying he'll definitely fail. Quite the contrary. Actually I think our defence is built around him succeeding. AWB, Smalling and Shaw have the necessary pace to counter to his weakness. All I said is that the fee is crazy, which I think is a fair comment.
I am really happy about this news. Maguire would be a brilliant signing.
Yep. But it's all crazy these days.
There's talk of how 50m for AWB, a one season 21 year old, is some sort of cracking deal now. THAT is the environment we're living in now!
Might be name on back of shirt material, if we don't sign a more traditional attacking glamour puss.
I know we're not.
I'm saying if we pay 80m then he becomes an 80m player.
His worth becomes 80m.
We won't sell, he is set to stay.
So what's the general concensus here? Are the reports we've agreed a fee legit or not? The red tops have gone all-in on this it seems but we don't seem to be hearing from the trusted sources which is concerning.
It's a crazy world . Newcastle want 50million for a player that has played 9 times in the PL. The Money is crazy . He will make a huge difference and have to say I have watched him loads of times and never remember thinking he was that slow .
I don't think we are that bad at transfer fees. We've had some bad ones, but also some good ones. Bailly and Dalot were reasonably priced punts. Zlatan was a good signing overall. Fred at the moment looks like a terrible signing given the fee. I think our problem is wages. You are right that our wage structure is now a joke, but fortunately, its still 50% of our revenue or whatever, so apparently that is still considered healthy..
What? They either pay what we want, or he stays. There's nothing 'naive' about our negotiations.
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