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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran are here to talk about a frustrating 2 points dropped at Crystal Palace. They then discuss the regeneration of Old Trafford. Finally, Nik is joined by special guest Michael Statham from the Football Oranje podcast - who gives us a more in depth look at our EL opposition FC Twente, and then runs through the (many) Dutch connections currently at United.
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But he doesn't mind United really. He only wants what's best for us, so he can finally see a true Manchester rivalry after his team managed to, bravely and through sheer, local organizational triumph, climb out of the depths of English football. He just doesn't want United to end up in a similar situation. What a good guy he is.
How are people even comparing him to Jones, Jones is a walking catastrophe.
Well I hope we give you a fair price. Maybe you can have Rojo back!Nope nope I would rather you stay away
United is like the good looking bloke your girl tells you not to worry about and then she end up leaving you for himUnited is the handsome rich bloke and Sporting are the poor nice guy.
BUT if you REALLY want a Sporting player you can take Bas Dost off our hands....no seriously please..
I agree central midfield needs a couple of signings so you could argue it’s as bad as the centre back issue but certainly not worse. We’ve been embarrassing there for a while - at least in centre mid we’ve got some sort of quality.
More likely he copied that post from somewhere and pretended he posted that.
facts. Until we get that sorted out we're always going to be in trouble. Titanic probably could turn faster than MaticThis isn't a concern for you? That Harry Maguire is your £80m ace in the hole to lead you back to the top?
Will be good cover for Phil Jones when he's out, on those rare occasions he is.
That’s the defence sorted so now for midfield and right wing and see how we go next season
I have the ability to simultaneously think that Maguire might be an unnecessary risk at that fee, but such is the market ever since blood money owners showed up, and that you have been acting like a smug cnut for the past few months.
If it doesn't work out we can buy another CB next summer. Just like Pepe did went Stones turned out to be average.
Welcome to football post 2004.
Give us De Gea and you have a dealWell I hope we give you a fair price. Maybe you can have Rojo back!
And I have the ability to simultaneously worry about United and also point out that Maguire is an unnecessary risk.
If it means we dont have to see the Chucklefeck brothers at center half again i dont care if the club pays a billion pounds for him.
At the time we could afford to do that because we were 15 points clear at the top of the league. You're playing catch-up to get back in the Champions League.
Even if we don't achieve 'good football' we seem to be forming the plan to concede fewer goals by strengthening right back and centre back, and then we are looking to sign a set piece specialist along, with a player who wins free kicks and corners.
That incremental advantage should see us improve our league position.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/transfer-news-live-pogba-coutinho-17678250
Mirror Sport understands Leicester are distancing themselves from reports over a bid for Harry Maguire.
Reports suggest Manchester United have launched an £80m bid for the England defender.
But Leicester have indicated they have not received a suitable offer for Maguire.
However, it is being claimed elsewhere that they are moving for Brighton’s Lewis Dunk as a replacement.
One to keep an eye on, for sure.
Mirror Sport understands Leicester are distancing themselves from reports over a bid for Harry Maguire.
Reports suggest Manchester United have launched an £80m bid for the England defender.
But Leicester have indicated they have not received a suitable offer for Maguire.
However, it is being claimed elsewhere that they are moving for Brighton’s Lewis Dunk as a replacement.
One to keep an eye on, for sure.
No. You could afford to do it because of your owners.
We can afford to spend because we earn it.
United will turnover around 600mil plus next year. If it doesn't work out we can spend again. It's what every big club does these days.
The thing with Mourinho is he had 2 chances to sign CBs and he bought Bailly and Lindelof who didn't make immediate impacts on the team. Even though we had these two we were still starting Jones and Smalling. Why not try for a Godin, Bonnuchi, Gimenez type defender instead?
I can see the clubs pov in not backing him again because it was clear at the time he didn't have any plan for any players he signed. What was the plan for Mkitaryan or Sanchez for example?
I agree the fee is excessive for Maguire, personally I would be trying harder to convince de Ligt (if possible) and trigger the release clause of Dias instead.
However, it appears Ole does have a plan and he's convinced Woodward of it enough that he will part with more cash this year for the same player.
There is one way it can work, though. But we won't do it.
4-2-2-2(wd)
DDG
AWB-Slab-Lind-Shaw
McTom-Matic (or A.N.)
Pog-Ferdz (both push up)
Rash-Martial (both play wider)
People make it sound like it's so easy.
I also play FM, so I know some of the names people suggest, who they clearly haven't watched, but must be good.... right!
Truth is, a lot of these young defenders aren't good enough, not yet anyway. It's easy to throw them into your FM sides and get them to work but life doesn't work that way.
Theirs a reason Anderson moved for 30m euro and Lyon had a clear shot at him, yet if the cafe are to be believed, he'd be a better signing than Maguire.
Ruben Dias, Konate, Upamecano etc have potential and may...just may come in and work out.
Or like a few defenders we've bought in the past, Namely Rojo, Bailly and to an extend, Lindelof due to his first season, all failed... (Most of the Cafe would have sold Lindelof)
I agree we're paying over the odds for Maguire, but if it's 60m with 20m performance based add ons, it's actually not that bad.
Again, people underrate proven premier league players in favour of young players, players with exotic names, or video game worldies that they've never actually seen play.
Somebody mentioned a few pages back a list of defenders, and as somebody said, he does well to watch 10 or so different foreign clubs on a regular basis to form his opinion.
I also play FM, so I know some of the names people suggest, who they clearly haven't watched, but must be good.... right!
Truth is, a lot of these young defenders aren't good enough, not yet anyway. It's easy to throw them into your FM sides and get them to work but life doesn't work that way.
Theirs a reason Anderson moved for 30m euro and Lyon had a clear shot at him, yet if the cafe are to be believed, he'd be a better signing than Maguire.
Ruben Dias, Konate, Upamecano etc have potential and may...just may come in and work out.
Or like a few defenders we've bought in the past, Namely Rojo, Bailly and to an extend, Lindelof due to his first season, all failed... (Most of the Cafe would have sold Lindelof)
I agree we're paying over the odds for Maguire, but if it's 60m with 20m performance based add ons, it's actually not that bad.
Again, people underrate proven premier league players in favour of young players, players with exotic names, or video game worldies that they've never actually seen play.
Somebody mentioned a few pages back a list of defenders, and as somebody said, he does well to watch 10 or so different foreign clubs on a regular basis to form his opinion.
And there is the benefit of not having Mino Raiola to deal with, he’ll definitely be taking de Ligt away from Juve in 3 seasons just when he’s about to peak
Simon saying it's done is the next best thing to an official confirmation.
Assuming the £60m + £20m bonus payments is correct then the fee is expensive but not ridiculous. We are getting a very good PL proven centre back with a decent number of years left at the top. It's also important he is comfortable playing as the left CB so will partner well with either Lindelof or Smalling (and hopefully Tuanzebe in the near future).
Surely now though we must start shipping out some of the deadwood. With Maguire joining we now have six senior CBs in the first team squad, seven if you count Tuanzebe. We have something like 14 defenders who have played in the first team for United currently on our books. It's crazy how many players we have that have almost no chance of even making the bench.
Assuming the £60m + £20m bonus payments is correct then the fee is expensive but not ridiculous. We are getting a very good PL proven centre back with a decent number of years left at the top. It's also important he is comfortable playing as the left CB so will partner well with either Lindelof or Smalling (and hopefully Tuanzebe in the near future).
Surely now though we must start shipping out some of the deadwood. With Maguire joining we now have six senior CBs in the first team squad, seven if you count Tuanzebe. We have something like 14 defenders who have played in the first team for United currently on our books. It's crazy how many players we have that have almost no chance of even making the bench.
You're fixating on the money and misunderstanding my point.
If a signing of ours doesn't work, we finish 2nd and probably win a cup. If Maguire doesn't work for you, you finish 6th again. How is that not a massive concern for you?
Should have sold Jones and Rojo as well, signed Alderweireld and push Smalling to 4th/5th choice.
You have 6000+ posts hope they aren't all as ridiculous as this.
I feel like a broken record in this thread, United could have thrown EVERYTHING at De Ligt he doesn't want to join us!! Maguire is the best attainable CB. I think he will be player of the season.
It's not a concern because next season isn't the last ever in football history.
Plus there are no guarantees with any signing.
What's your solution? Sign nobody?
We will get rid of Axel now as no one will pay anywhere near the wages our other centre backs are on
You could say exactly the same point about any signing we make.
"So we are amazing, so if end up being a bit less amazing, it's alright, because we're still amazing. But you're shit, so if everything doesn't work out perfectly for you, then you're just going to incredibly shit. What a bummer for you guys, must be really difficult".Exactly, Lindelof is 24 and Tuanzebe 21 they can improve, Maguire is ready made and PL proven, we don’t need a 21 year old from some foreign league. Maguire will improve us immensely and think he will be great in improving Lindelof. He can also let Lindelof play as a RCB where he is much more comfortable.
If we did, he would have posted we should have spent money on Maguire as he was PL proven. He is just here to WUM.
Well, exactly. Further prove my point, why don't you? As a club you're in a perilous position right now. This season could be make or break for your next 5-10 years.
Good signing, will improve you.
Good for the England team as well. Potentially 3 of England's back 4 at the same club. Be nice to be able to blame Man United when England fail again.
Good for the England team as well. Potentially 3 of England's back 4 at the same club. Be nice to be able to blame Man United when England fail again.
This. We weren't going to get De Ligt without Champions League football, so we're down to Alderweirald or Maguire - yes Toby is cheaper, but he's a short term solution with massive injury worries. I'm happy with Maguire - he's not as good as Van Dijk, but he's a solid centre back who can defend, and can play out - to be honest his only real weakness is his pace.
I'm just answering where we would get a reliable source not when. Doesn't have to be instant.
Jesus. As I've said a fair few times in this thread, your own fans are making the exact same points.
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