[Malone_Post]

He was never good enough before we signed him, anyone who had watched him regularly including plenty of Leicester fans on here at the time, told us that. And he’s spent 3 seasons proving those people absolutely right. He has major flaws to his game which are irreversible and will never suit a modern, progressive team. Put him in a low block team who sit back and soak up pressure he can be an asset. He would probably have been very good in a Jose team, and it’s no surprise he originally wanted him. It’s simply time for him to move on. It is the best solution for both parties. We’ll have to take a massive financial hit but it’s better to cut our losses now then have a player so ill suited to our new system either sitting on the bench (as club captain no less) or coming into the team and causing the issues that we know he will bring. Tonight’s performance simply wouldn’t have been possible with a player of Maguire’s characteristics in the team.

 

[Adisa]

£130m down the drain.

 

[united_99]

I feel for him, too, but the scrutiny will only intensify after seeing the backline play in a way it can’t with him in the team.

He either has to match that bar in training or he’s really in trouble.

Tbh Liverpool were terrible today plus their horrible midfield they started and we still only managed 29% possession. It was a very important win for us but I am sure a lot of teams will give our back line a much harder test than they got today.

 

[Abraxas]

He's still going to get loads of football this season, let's make no mistake about that. Theres too many games for him not to. It's up to him and how he performs. If there's a chasm between how we play with and without Maguire then his time will be up.

 

[Prodigy24]

I still can't believe that this guy is our captain. Should be sold before the transfer window closes.

 

[Nick7]

We look terrible with him in the lineup though. I don’t think there is any upside to keeping him. We don’t play a style that suits him, we need to get the captaincy off him, and we have the likes of Tuanzabe still hanging about.

He just hasn’t worked here and should move on for the good of his own career.

Tuanzebe isn’t good enough and probably doesn’t want to spend a year as fourth choice. We don’t have any depth if Varane has another injury plagued season. We can’t go a whole year with 3 centre backs

 

[klayton88]

I won't miss seeing him messing with his quiff/hair every two seconds.

 

[TheGame]

We won but the haters want to pile into the Maguire thread. Feck me, what a bunch of idiots. Ten Hag said he would be playing and he would be using the squad.

 

[Renegade]

We won but the haters want to pile into the Maguire thread. Feck me, what a bunch of idiots. Ten Hag said he would be playing and he would be using the squad.

Hasn’t that got something to do with ETH making a big selection decision by dropping him which no manager has ever done?

 

[Cassidy]

Hasn’t that got something to do with ETH making a big selection decision by dropping him which no manager has ever done?

Rangnick did, but we lost. Winning today was important

 

[Fortitude]

Tbh Liverpool were terrible today plus their horrible midfield they started and we still only managed 29% possession. It was a very important win for us but I am sure a lot of teams will give our back line a much harder test than they got today.

It’s going to become increasingly harder to get at us with Casemiro screening and us gelling as a unit, and in turn really fancying ourselves as an attacking force. We were entering today’s game untested as a CB pairing after a humiliating start to the season; as a side, we were understandably full of nerves, so I think that negates Liverpool’s angst or at least equalises it with our own.

The possession stats come down to the midfield mostly, so even though they weren’t at full strength, they still had the means to put it on us.

As we establish ourselves, it should get increasingly difficult to test us outright. Do you have any sides in particular you want to see us against?

 

[TheGame]

Hasn’t that got something to do with ETH making a big selection decision by dropping him which no manager has ever done?

This is the performance thread, he didn’t play and people just come in and making the same cheap digs. He’ll still be a useful squad player this season.

 

[united_99]

It’s going to become increasingly harder to get at us with Casemiro screening and us gelling as a unit, and in turn really fancying ourselves as an attacking force. We were entering today’s game untested as a CB pairing after a humiliating start to the season; as a side, we were understandably full of nerves, so I think that negates Liverpool’s angst or at least equalises it with our own.

The possession stats come down to the midfield mostly, so even though they weren’t at full strength, they still had the means to put it on us.

As we establish ourselves, it should get increasingly difficult to test us outright. Do you have any sides in particular you want to see us against?

? We already saw two sides we played before Liverpool. And at least 10 more sides will give us a tougher game than we had today.
Make no mistake, this was hardly the Liverpool of last season. And of course they will also improve.

 

[Fortitude]

? We already saw two sides we played before Liverpool. And at least 10 more sides will give us a tougher game than we had today.
Make no mistake, this was hardly the Liverpool of last season. And of course they will also improve.

My comment referred to this defensive unit (plus Casemiro) in the future with a more settled side and some wind in our sails. We should be squeezing the life out of sides with a high line, shored space and more considered intensive pressing.

 

[marcus agrippa]

We won but the haters want to pile into the Maguire thread. Feck me, what a bunch of idiots. Ten Hag said he would be playing and he would be using the squad.

Dropped the captain for the biggest game of the English calendar.

Referenced mobility and agility required for the game.

Maguire's toast.

 

[VivaRonaldo85]

With Varane’s poor injury record, we’re still gonna need this guy to pull his finger out asap. But he’s bench warming for now whilst the Varane and Martinez partnership can start to bed in.

 

[RedPed]

Yes Harry, keep yourself fit for the League Cup games.

 

[RedPed]

This is the performance thread, he didn’t play and people just come in and making the same cheap digs. He’ll still be a useful squad player this season.

You should be glad that we'll hopefully see the back of this lump. I'm sure that we would have lost that game tonight if he had started.

 

[TheGame]

Dropped the captain for the biggest game of the English calendar.

Referenced mobility and agility required for the game.

Maguire's toast

Didn’t ETH say it’s a squad game and he would be involved in the season. We play a lot of games with EL as well so will need squad depth.

 

[TheGame]

You should be glad that we'll hopefully see the back of this lump. I'm sure that we would have lost that game tonight if he had started.

There are times when he will be needed so I don’t think he will be sold.

 

[Chief123]

Yep, having defended Maguire quite vigorously up until now I can gladly admit he should not get back into the side. Varane and Martinez were both immense tonight.

Fair play to you. There’s still some staunch Maguire lovers here who’ll blindly defend him with the most utter nonsense to deflect onto other players.

 

[SadlerMUFC]

I would have liked to see Harry showing some emotion on the bench cheering the lads on today

 

[arthurka]

I would have liked to see Harry showing some emotion on the bench cheering the lads on today

Captain and all, looked shaken with Lardboy as his wingman on the bench.

 

[Eyepopper]

Kit man must be delighted tonight, at least 3 pairs of shorts he doesn't have to scrub diarrhea out of after the game.

Don't get me wrong, I think "H" could be an effective squad CB for us, but certain starter? I think not, we vastly overpaid for him in the belief that he was something that he never was.

As for being captain, I think he should just resign that based on our performances while he was captain, it'd probably be good for him, let him just focus on playing, as third or fourth choice.

 

[matherto]

Kit man must be delighted tonight, at least 3 pairs of shorts he doesn't have to scrub diarrhea out of after the game.

Don't get me wrong, I think "H" could be an effective squad CB for us, but certain starter? I think not, we vastly overpaid for him in the belief that he was something that he never was.

As for being captain, I think he should just resign that based on our performances while he was captain, it'd probably be good for him, let him just focus on playing, as third or fourth choice.

I don't think he can go from United captain and nailed on starter to anything less really.

He needs to go, for both our and his sake. Go ply his trade somewhere else and do absolutely fine and all power to him but not in a United squad where he's been deemed not only not good enough to be captain but good enough to be a starter, there's no coming back from that mentally.

 

[DickDastardly]

I would have liked to see Harry showing some emotion on the bench cheering the lads on today

The man has zero brain cells and right now they're all looking at the calendar to see when England play San Marino or Albania so he could score a header and say he's the best center back for club and country.

Hull city was his ceiling.

 

[Eyepopper]

I don't think he can go from United captain and nailed on starter to anything less really.

He needs to go, for both our and his sake. Go ply his trade somewhere else and do absolutely fine and all power to him but not in a United squad where he's been deemed not only not good enough to be captain but good enough to be a starter, there's no coming back from that mentally.

Probably, but who's gonna take him?

I do think he's probably capable of better than he's shown at Utd, which has been dismal really, as both player and captain, but he was brought in for a record fee and put in a position he clearly wasn't qualified or ready for.

Best case scenario we turn him into a somewhat valuable asset, if possible, otherwise he's gonna sit round, do feck all but draw a wage.

One thing is for sure, he 100% shouldn't be captain.

 

[matherto]

Probably, but who's gonna take him?

I do think he's probably capable of better than he's shown at Utd, which has been dismal really, as both player and captain, but he was brought in for a record fee and put in a position he clearly wasn't qualified or ready for.

Best case scenario we turn him into a somewhat valuable asset, if possible, otherwise he's gonna sit round, do feck all but draw a wage.

One thing is for sure, he 100% shouldn't be captain.

Absolutely no idea mate, but someone can. Somewhere. As long as someone makes a bid we should absolutely entertain it.

He's definitely a better player than he's shown in our shirt, but when the United mountain gets on top of you, it's impossible to find a way out unless you leave.

 

[Eyepopper]

Absolutely no idea mate, but someone can. Somewhere. As long as someone makes a bid we should absolutely entertain it.

He's definitely a better player than he's shown in our shirt, but when the United mountain gets on top of you, it's impossible to find a way out unless you leave.

Yeah, I agree, but realistically no ones gonna bid on him, he has 2 years left earning close to £200k a week.

No ones paying a fee for him, we're stuck with him.

It's another impossible scenario we've been handed by years of ineptitude.

I've nothing against the guy really, but holding on the the captaincy at this point must be embarrassing for him.

He'd be far better off relinquishing it along the lines of "I want to focus on rediscovering my best form" etc.

To be captain of a team, at an all time low with you as captain, with 3 players who've won 4-5 CLs? Jaysus, have some basic self awareness.

 

[TheGame]

Absolutely no idea mate, but someone can. Somewhere. As long as someone makes a bid we should absolutely entertain it.

He's definitely a better player than he's shown in our shirt, but when the United mountain gets on top of you, it's impossible to find a way out unless you leave.

We have around 50-60 games this season. If we sell him, who are we going to get for CB this late in the window. That’s why ETH doesn’t want to sell him and referred to using the squad across the season.

 

[marcus agrippa]

I would have liked to see Harry showing some emotion on the bench cheering the lads on today

Don't think he has it in him, and that's part of the problem. Telling that when ETH wants 'fighting spirit' and other intangibles, he drops the captain.

 

[TheGame]

Fair play to you. There’s still some staunch Maguire lovers here who’ll blindly defend him with the most utter nonsense to deflect onto other players.

Who has been defending him?

 

[marcus agrippa]

Didn’t ETH say it’s a squad game and he would be involved in the season. We play a lot of games with EL as well so will need squad depth.

And he may well play, but his days as an automatic starter are done IMO. Varane is injury-prone as we know, but I'd fancy Lindelof to come in. Martinez is likely to be his automatic pick. We'll see ...

 

[Chief123]

Who has been defending him?

Just look at the no.1 poster in this thread. Maguire can do no wrong according to him. He’s beyond delusion.

 

[TheGame]

And he may well play, but his days as an automatic starter are done IMO. Varane is injury-prone as we know, but I'd fancy Lindelof to come in. Martinez is likely to be his automatic pick. We'll see ...

I agree that Varane and Martinez are the number one choice but I also know we have to keep Maguire for squad depth and with issues around Varane’s fitness.

 

[Maluco]

Tuanzebe isn’t good enough and probably doesn’t want to spend a year as fourth choice. We don’t have any depth if Varane has another injury plagued season. We can’t go a whole year with 3 centre backs

Maguire isn’t good enough either and has a lot of baggage. There is no point to keeping him in this awkward position. It’s better to send him away and give a young player a chance. Look for a loan at the end of the window. Maguire, the player, isn’t worth keeping, of the potential damage to the dressing room it could cause.

 

[matherto]

We have around 50-60 games this season. If we sell him, who are we going to get for CB this late in the window. That’s why ETH doesn’t want to sell him and referred to using the squad across the season.

Not a clue honestly, I get it, we don't have the depth, but Maguire playing doesn't actually help that. What's the point in playing someone who will cost us at any point even when we don't have anyone else?

Who have we got in reserve/the U-23/youth/whoever?

We can sell Maguire and get someone in quick. I know we move slower than tectonic plates but it can be done, surely.

 

[Hal9000]

I think he gets some unfair stick on here, his first season he was great and improved us at the back drastically, he was a rock and showed fire. Even his 2nd season he was pretty good. People have last season stuck in their minds to much tbh, he was awful but so was everyone, if he can get back to his 1st season levels then i think he'll be useful for us...

 

[Tap]

His best performance in ages, which is on the bench.

He still has a role to play though, in the early rounds of domestic and EL cup games and as a backup in case of injuries.

 

[tentan]

C'mon Chelsea, up your game