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2022-23 Performances


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5.3 Season Average Rating
Appearances
31
Clean sheets
17
Goals
0
Assists
0
Yellow cards
9
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Could be, or we are actually decent at defending counters.

The stat is very poor, like mistakes leading to goal stat where they don't count many instances. For examples all the below ones are goals scored on counter last season and these are from few sample games before December.
Liverpool 5th goal when Pogba was tackled in the mid third.
Manquillo goal in Ronaldo debut game
Townsend goal, countered from our attacking corner.
ASM goal when Varane lost ball from our throw in.
 
Yeah, I'm also not sure if that tidbit can produce a direct deduction of our defensive prowess. I mean we all saw how easy teams strolled down our middle. I'm aware of visual bias but there's no way that McFred midfield was part of a reliable counter defending machine, likely other factors at play. If we didn't concede much then we probably weren't on the receiving end of that many total or some other tactical reason or just plain anomalous luck or something peculiar about what that stat considers "counters".

We weren't good at defending anything, it's just that what is considered as counter attacking goals by whoscored is very limited/restricted. We have conceded plenty of goals when opponents transitioned from their defense to attack.
 
Not in the team but we insist that we will not sell him. Needs to be shopped. Mistake of a signing, put it right when the opportunity presents.

The thing is, if Chelsea follow up, I feel that even Maguire himself may be tempted and ask to join them. Hopefully we let him go.
 
Well these comments don’t sit too well for Maguire. He certainly doesn’t that’s those attributes. Please be the end.

 
The stat is very poor, like mistakes leading to goal stat where they don't count many instances. For examples all the below ones are goals scored on counter last season and these are from few sample games before December.
Liverpool 5th goal when Pogba was tackled in the mid third.
Manquillo goal in Ronaldo debut game
Townsend goal, countered from our attacking corner.
ASM goal when Varane lost ball from our throw in.
I agree that there are always some extra goals that we all think are counters. The goals that fall in this category are mostly goals like the 4-0 we conceded vs Brentford, and not the ones where we lose possession on midfield. However in comparison to other teams the stats become more useful.
 
Let's see if we're any better first before getting excited about him being dropped.
 
I agree that there are always some extra goals that we all think are counters. The goals that fall in this category are mostly goals like the 4-0 we conceded vs Brentford, and not the ones where we lose possession on midfield. However in comparison to other teams the stats become more useful.

It's as useful as "mistakes leading to goals" stats which said it's 0 for Maguire, who was making mistakes so often after the restart.
 
Mobility and agility aren’t the strongest characteristics of Slabby. Ralf wasn’t a fan and nor is ETH.
 
It's as useful as "mistakes leading to goals" stats which said it's 0 for Maguire, who was making mistakes so often after the restart.
The mistake stat is ridiculous. You really need to feck up to get notes in this category.
 
If Nunez was playing then I would’ve fancied Maguire to start. As things are though, good decision to drop him.
 
Funny, I remember leaks came out that he wanted a player that is/knows English, and now our CB both speak Spanish.
 
"I wouldn't be playing every game for #mufc in the starting eleven if I'd been playing bad every game or not playing well enough. There's a reason why both managers have put me in the starting eleven every game."

Ended!

 
"I wouldn't be playing every game for #mufc in the starting eleven if I'd been playing bad every game or not playing well enough. There's a reason why both managers have put me in the starting eleven every game."

Ended!

Can now change it to - there's a reason why two clueless managers kept playing me, and the one who actually knows what he's doing dropped me after 2 games.
 
Let's see if we're any better first before getting excited about him being dropped.
The outcome of this game should have nothing to do with being better or worse with Maguire going forward. If we were going off single game results that 4-0 to Brentford would have been enough.
 
Deservedly dropped. He shouldn't play just because he is captain. He's a poor fit for a Ten Hag team
 
The outcome of this game should have nothing to do with being better or worse with Maguire going forward. If we were going off single game results that 4-0 to Brentford would have been enough.
If he'd have played tonight he'd have been slated. It should be judged the same. I hope we are better.
 
"I wouldn't be playing every game for #mufc in the starting eleven if I'd been playing bad every game or not playing well enough. There's a reason why both managers have put me in the starting eleven every game."

Ended!


The communication part is probably key. Presumably Varane can speak Spanish with Martinez. While Maguire struggles to master English.
 
I hope we atleast draw so that the loss isn't some sort of vindication for him to start again.
 
If he'd have played tonight he'd have been slated. It should be judged the same. I hope we are better.
If his replacement sucks they will be slated on the merit of their own performance. Has nothing to do with bringing Maguire back to the team. Varane having a hypothetical shocker isn't going to make Maguire any faster or more agile. Either way Maguire's days as undisputed starter should be numbered. Manager wants to push up and wants mobility.
 
He can’t play in ETH’s system, his whole career is based on backing off and sitting deep. As manager said he wants pace and agility, Maguire lacks both.

This would be our best chance to sell him and recoup something but we’d have to go get a replacement at the last minute which would be more panicking.
 
He can’t play in ETH’s system, his whole career is based on backing off and sitting deep. As manager said he wants pace and agility, Maguire lacks both.

This would be our best chance to sell him and recoup something but we’d have to go get a replacement at the last minute which would be more panicking.
He should go back to Leicester or somewhere like West Ham or Brighton. He’d fit in there.
 
"I wouldn't be playing every game for #mufc in the starting eleven if I'd been playing bad every game or not playing well enough. There's a reason why both managers have put me in the starting eleven every game."

Ended!


I hope he dropped the mic after that.
 
Let's see if we're any better first before getting excited about him being dropped.
Think he’s been poor for some time now and never liked the fact that he’s been undroppable, but I have to agree with you here. He was poor the last two games, but so was everybody in the defence, midfield and attack. And the coach.
 
Talking about agility and mobility doesn't seem to suggest that Varane is just more suitable for this particular game, but that Maguire isn't suitable at all. Which was obvious, but it's unlike a manager to lay it out so clearly like that.
 
A year too late - but hopefully that's the end of his time at United.
 
Yep, having defended Maguire quite vigorously up until now I can gladly admit he should not get back into the side. Varane and Martinez were both immense tonight.
 
He symbolises every failure of the Ole regime and our transfer policy in the last number of his years, largely due to his ridiculous price tag. It’s not his fault, he was never going to live up to it, never going to handle that sort of pressure because he’s simply not at that level. There’s a good player in there but for his sake and Utd’s, it’s time to part ways.
 
He simply cannot play the game at the speed we saw from our CB’s tonight. Even if one of them were to be injured, you want someone like them coming into the team.

Agility, speed of thought and execution, decisiveness and recovery attributes. Just not Maguire’s skilset.
 
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