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Didnt get to watch the game but was listening on the radio and by all account he had a good game, which is great for him and England.

Would be great if he was as good for us but he just doesnt suit the way we play. Hope he gets a move to a decent club and has a good career. Any chance we get £50m for him?
 
Good to see him play well and hope he does well for the rest of the tournament. Increases the chances of getting interested buyers or at least raises his confidence if he stays.
 
Maguire was superb, as he's always been for England.

He plays well for England, that's a given, we defend deep as a team, which doesn't expose his weaknesses the same way that a high line does.
 
lefty_jakobz said:
Didnt get to watch the game but was listening on the radio and by all account he had a good game, which is great for him and England.

Would be great if he was as good for us but he just doesnt suit the way we play. Hope he gets a move to a decent club and has a good career. Any chance we get £50m for him?
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Its hard to see how that figure plus his wages are affordable to anybody but a select few clubs, and then it's hard to see how his weaknesses correlate with playing for those sides any more than they do for us. It's a tricky problem as he's probably facing a step down in his career, which maybe he's open to if he gets little football. But it wouldn't then be at 50 million.
 
Thought he had a really good game - one of the only England players you could really say that for - probably MotM for England (albeit best of a bad bunch)
 
Desert Eagle said:
Low key? Most expensive defender ever and Manchester united captain.
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It's not his fault Manchester United have been run like a bad joke for 10 years, he's a just a good Premier League CB who overperforms for England
If we were a competently run club that refused to pay over his value at the time (I'd day 35-40 million or so) then this whole fiasco could have been avoided
 
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By all accounts City were prepared to go higher but I agree it was silly money.
 
Hulme91 said:
It's not his fault Manchester United have been run like a bad joke for 10 years, he's a just a good Premier League CB who overperforms for England
If we were a competently run club that refused to pay over his value at the time (I'd day 35-40 million or so) then this whole fiasco could have been avoided
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Might not be his fault but he's definitely not low key.
 
Desert Eagle said:
Might not be his fault but he's definitely not low key.
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I mean in terms of talent when I say low key
Manchester United is the entity that put that low key player into an untenable position, the 80 million fee was ridiculous and painted a target on his back from day one in a similar vein to Pogba (although Pogba is in a different universe in terms of ability)
 
Hopefully clubs take note of his performances and we see a serious buyer.
 
Very much did his job tonight. Basically earned England that point, not sure what was going on Infront of him the midfield and attack were honestly dreadful for the most part and put England right on then back foot.

England needed a big performance from him tonight and they got one. Hopefully it does him the world of good.
 
Another problem for Maguire is the top teams and a lot of the smaller teams don't spam crosses like they used to. Most attack on the ground and with pace. Thats one of the reasons why he looks so good in international football is they still play old school ball.
 
Desert Eagle said:
Another problem for Maguire is the top teams and a lot of the smaller teams don't spam crosses like they used to. Most attack on the ground and with pace. Thats one of the reasons why he looks so good in international football is they still play old school ball.
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The only team I have seen doing it is Serbia as they have aerial prowess.
Which other international teams do it that are in the World Cup?
 
Pleased for him. He’s a good defender and it shows when he’s confident and in the right set up.

Get him a good move and bring in a younger replacement to Ten Hag’s liking and all parties will benefit.
 
Kag said:
Pleased for him. He’s a good defender and it shows when he’s confident and in the right set up.

Get him a good move and bring in a younger replacement to Ten Hag’s liking and all parties will benefit.
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Good post.
 
He played well and hopefully did no harm to his resale value.

However, his performances for England do absolutely nothing for me. I’ll be more pleased and delighted for him if he can do it for Utd against much tougher opposition which he comes up against in the premier league. Good performances against Iran and US, I’ll take a with a pinch of salt.

I’ll be more than happy if we get a Maguire who plays well for Utd and suits what we are trying to do. He hasn’t shown that so far hence why he’s rightly been benched. If he continues to fail to show it then it’s right and best for all he moves on.
 
Kag said:
Pleased for him. He’s a good defender and it shows when he’s confident and in the right set up.

Get him a good move and bring in a younger replacement to Ten Hag’s liking and all parties will benefit.
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Exactly. His performances here at the WC are great news for us. I hope he can find a club that suits his talents
 
Bondi77 said:
The only team I have seen doing it is Serbia as they have aerial prowess.
Which other international teams do it that are in the World Cup?
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Not many from what I've seen, most at least seem to try to keep it on the deck and play,

Except Poland who were just awful and Germany who basically spent 90 mins hooking high balls against Japan.
 
Oranges038 said:
Not many from what I've seen, most at least seem to try to keep it on the deck and play,

Except Poland who were just awful and Germany who basically spent 90 mins hooking high balls against Japan.
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I do not have a clue what that poster was talking about.
Even Germany with Havertz as their most advanced player prefers balls played to his feet.
 
Bondi77 said:
I do not have a clue what that poster was talking about.
Even Germany with Havertz as their most advanced player prefers balls played to his feet.
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Not against Japan, they haven't faced such an aerial bombardment since 1945.
 
Win-win situation here, he's found his confidence again which I'm happy for him. On the flip side, his value is going up as a result and hopefully it continues for the remainder of the season.
 
lefty_jakobz said:
Didnt get to watch the game but was listening on the radio and by all account he had a good game, which is great for him and England.

Would be great if he was as good for us but he just doesnt suit the way we play. Hope he gets a move to a decent club and has a good career. Any chance we get £50m for him?
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Was thinking exactly the same.
When United bought him, and AWB for that matter, it was to shore up a very leaky defence, and £130 million for the pair was very much over the odds for both, but what both did was to stop us conceding so many goals, which enabled us to qualify for the Champions League, in effect they recouped some of that outlay in the money the club gained that season. At that time we were very much a counter attacking team, which suited Maguire, but as you pointed out, that style has changed somewhat, so realistically Maguire should be sold to a team who play in that counter attacking way, and if he plays well for England, then that should enhance his reputation as a good defender.
 
Bondi77 said:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...wQFnoECAkQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3YM7QWAgFfx6KlHDyxLMR1
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It’s common knowledge that Citeh were interested but that wasn’t what you said was it. . .
Bondi77 said:
By all accounts City were prepared to go higher but I agree it was silly money.
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That’s a little disingenuous Bondi.

In your link Pep says, ‘we could not afford it’, I’m just wondering where you get that Citeh ‘were prepared to go higher’ from?

Feel free to stay on topic, or we can just say it was a poor choice of phrase in that instance.
 
Maguire is in my opinion more valuable than Martinez to most teams, but Maguire and United is unfortunately a bad match.
 
AFC NimbleThumb said:
It’s common knowledge that Citeh were interested but that wasn’t what you said was it. . .

That’s a little disingenuous Bondi.

In your link Pep says, ‘we could not afford it’, I’m just wondering where you get that Citeh ‘were prepared to go higher’ from?

Feel free to stay on topic, or we can just say it was a poor choice of phrase in that instance.
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City were prepared to go higher than 35-40mil which is the price the poster posted which I replied to.
That is pretty obvious isn't it?
 
In fairness, memes aside I never see him bad at defending. It's just that the club and him both really tried to make him a ball playing CB to the point where sometimes you saw him stalling the pass to carry/possess the ball much longer than required. Then when he gets pressed he shits himself (when there are no more room to pass due to holding the ball for too long).
 
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I like Maguire as a player, think his defensive deficiencies in a "high line" we rarely play this year anyway are overstated. Had a really bad last season but that's it, we were totally exposed in midfield and overall play that many defenders would crumble. Especially with one of the worst CBs we ever had in Lindelof.

So will be interesting if he gets a chance under ETH after the WC, now his confidence grow back. With Lisandro next and Casemiro he should have a solid base and no excuses, but perhaps he will not get a chance and try to force a move sooner or later. WOuld be perfect for Athletico, Conte or Mourinho.

Not a fan of Felix as he can only play the easiest atttacking position - a SS and we need a proper no 9 but we may fancy a swap at some point? Not that these kind of deals ever happen..
 
Polar said:
Maguire is in my opinion more valuable than Martinez to most teams, but Maguire and United is unfortunately a bad match.
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I’d have to say the opposite. Virtually every team from top to bottom in the league wants to play out from the back. Martinez is the best progressive passer of a ball I’ve seen as a centre back in a very long time. The fact he so aggressive and solid defensively is a huge bonus. Every team would love a Martinez.
 
The reason he had a good game was because England played agianst a USMT that lacked attacking players with imagination and craft.

let's wait till England plays the likes of Brazil then we can visit this thread and I'm sure the comments would be different.

Anyways I'm glad he's putting up this good performances so we can get a good fee for him in the summer window.
 
tenpoless said:
In fairness, memes aside I never see him bad at defending. It's just that the club and him both really tried to make him a ball playing CB to the point where sometimes you saw him stalling the pass to carry/possess the ball much longer than required.
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It's difficult for a CB to really find an easy way out with a short pass, when McTominay is such a coward with poor dynamism, shambolic first touch and passing technique.. Dwelling on the ball I agree he should be doing less, on the other hand it's just a tactical problem, if he's told to do less he will. On the other hand we shouldnt kill him totally and his press resistant nature, which I think overall is great. He's not looking for to hoof it on every occassion under slightest of pressures like other physically and mentally week players like Lindelof.
 
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