I seen a video of Maguire not celebrating the winner, just walking back to position. Was anyone at the game? Was that taken out of context or does it show an obvious divide in the dressing room?
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Even if that is true, who cares? Harry needs to focus playing like a professional footballer first, who cares if he doesn’t like Ronaldo or vice versa.
This is what Roy Keane said. He said he feels sorry for Maguire who has been put in this position by Manchester United. He should never have been made the Captain as he joined the club he said. Ole put him in this situation.
I would start Jones or Bailey ahead of Maguire, that guy is a liability in every single way. Bailey is reckless, and bothered consequence usually is he injures himself. Same with Jones, played once all season, first time in 2 years, was miles better than any performance Maguire put in during the season. It less less about how much he costs for me, its more about that fact he is a defender that would do well in the 80s, he can't run, he can't turn, he can't chase and his positioning is questionable. Heading was meant to be his biggest strength, we look weak in the air when defending and equally, he has kissed blinders in attacking positions. The guy is just not a top level defender and our other options would be much better. I'd even go as far as putting AWB at CB ahead of Maguire, at least he can run.
Yeah I also fear he won't recover from this season. Too much damage done from the heavy scrutiny he's received this year.
Everyone says that but forgets to mention who would have been a better or any other option at the point when Ashley Young left? Only one I see being a realistic option was De Gea, but he had been going through a rough patch of form then (if I'm not wrong?) and would he had been any better?
From watching our games you can see there is a divide in the dressing room. Andy Mitten has also said a current United player's family member told him that a certain player is tired of looking shit because he's always trying to cover for someone else who gets caught out of position, that could obviously be anyone in the current team but it doesn't sound good does it?
Then you've got Bruno and Maguire having a full blown argument on the pitch during lockdown because we conceded with Bruno screaming at him "do your job".
There's big issues.
It's not so much a form thing, it's more leadership. Dave has only just started doing media, before this season he was largely uninterested in speaking to the press and putting his voice out there. This season he's started acting more like a senior player. But I agree, there aren't many options out there, and I fully think Maguire was made the captain because he's the only first player who's happy to speak out and doesn't have a brand or outside of football interests.
Wasnt he also marking/holding AWB while defending a corner and then we conceded?
You all can defend this poser of a defender all you want but at the end of the day it's the club that's gonna get fecked because of his stupidity.
I do think it’s a little harsh to ask players speaking their second language to front up. You can see even now that his language is quite limited. Not a senior pro, but I’ve hardly ever seen Rashford in front of the cameras after a loss. It’s difficult to know how to take that though, it might just be the club protecting him in the last couple of seasons, which I think would be fair enough.
He celebrated at least one goal with Ronaldo so wouldn't read anything into it. Defenders often refocus straight away when we've scored.
Arry Maguire
Proper captain this.
IMO it looks like he wants to refocus and concentrate on finishing the Job.
We hardly scored the Game winning Goal in the CL Final. I'm far from a Maguire Fan but it's all getting ridiculous with him. He gets critizised and mocked for absolute everything nowadays.
We hardly scored the Game winning Goal in the CL Final. I'm far from a Maguire Fan but it's all getting ridiculous with him. He gets critizised and mocked for absolute everything nowadays.
Under no circumstance can he be allowed to keep the armband next season. That's all that really matters. The message it sends is just awful.
One of the most unlikeable players I've ever seen play for us, unfortunately.
Where's the clip of him celebrating with Ronaldo after the 2nd goal?
Jheeze thats bad
To be fair thats a long way to run without a holding CM
Might be reading too much into it but everything about that just looks sad. It's not like he's sprinting back into CB to prevent a quick kick off, he's the sole player who didn't celebrate with his head down. Hope everything's okay with him, he looks miserable.
Yes I do...and I back it up. I don't blame maguire for goals that weren't his fault. That's what you do and so do all your other muppet friends who just repeat whatever the rest of the pack have told you all to think. you see, I think for myself and just don't repeat what others tell me. You should try it
Or it could be that there has been a guy behind them that stands on his line with his mouth shut and just makes saves. If you don't know what's wrong with that, then don't reply
Didn't even bother reading past this point
Bailly is better at old school centre back style defending than Maguire, tackling, blocking etc. Jones could well be too, even with his lengthy period out of football. Maguire can play it out from the back better and is more dominant in the air, but when it comes to defending on the ground he's a big liability at this level. It's completely fair enough for fans to want to see how our defence would look with a centre back that can do the tough stuff well.
What would be really nice is to see how our defense works with a proper keeper and a DM. Imagine VVD without Allison and Fabinho
Really makes you appreciate Phil Jones more. He may be shite too but he always gave it his all for the shirt at least. He also has better leadership qualities.
Opposition can’t take a quick kick off anyway while there are Utd players on their side of the pitch.
Ten Hag first decree should be stripping captaincy from him. We never had weaker captain for 30 years since the inception of PL.
Nah you blindly blame every Maguire blunder on everyone else.
I agree actually. I’ve been a critic of his for about 3 seasons now. I believe with him in goal, we start a few yards further back than we should because the defence know he won’t sweep up.
You mean like Saturday when you were blaming Maguire for the Norwich goal when Maguire was one of the only players marking a man? Nice try
Dude looks depressed
The guy who's saved our sorry asses time and time again? Nice! Maguire will always have his apologists while others are slated for less. I really hope Ten Hag sees through the bullshit and gets a proper CB in. I can see Maguire getting embarrassed and decking things up tonight.
He overcommitted. It wasn't his fault alone. But overcommitting was a clear mistake there. You are just to blindly in love with the dude to see it.
You are not afraid to throw shit after our keeper and Pogba. But Maguire is untouchable.
Earlier in this thread you used the fact that Rangnick picks him to tell another user that you trust the manager over some random forum user. Yet here you are blaming DDG despite Rangnick publicly stating he was the reason we didn't lose.
Your weird obsession with Arry is about as crazy as that Mozart fellows obsession with Poch....
Wouldn’t read too much into that. He just doesn’t have the pace to run all the way to catch up celebrating with his teammates, that’s all.
So what’s stopping him at least showing some emotion? A small fist pump or jump? Anything?
We’ve all seen DDG celebrate whilst on his own at his goal when we score.
Instead, with Maguire, it’s slouched shoulders and the body language shows zero interest in the goal or in celebrating it.
and I was told that he wasn't a scapegoat.. He's now being criticised for celebrating in a way that some of YOU find acceptable...?!Unreal.
To be fair to him, he got a load of shit for celebrating a goal against the mighty Algeria and we never should have been 2-2 with the mighty Norwich. He could probably hear Keane echoing in the back of his head.
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