Rooney had just looked one of the best players at Euro 2004, at 18. I'm not sure the comparison is apt.
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Add to the fact that was 11 years ago...
Indeed.
And Kane has just looked like one of the best young talents in the PL!
Not sure why Berba mentions its 11 years ago? If anything with inflation and us only adding on £10m proves me point, its a pittance for a club like United and its revenues.
Anything between £40-£45m is good business for me considering the longevity & quality we'd most likely get from Kane.
£30 Million was a lot of money 11 years ago.
We won't get him for £40m - it will be dismissed out of hand. The only way we will get him at all is if Kane pushes for a move like Sterling / AdM did - and I can't see him doing that.
He has. I think doing it against the best of Europe, in a team you've just come in to, is more impressive, though. Particularly given the relative ages.
I was adamant we had to sign Wayne but I'm unsure on Harry. He took an awfully long time to convince his manager he was the real deal, despite his goals. I think the fear that it was just a hot streak is legitimate.
We can bid 40 mln quid all we want, Levy will tell us to feck off and force us to pay over the odds when 40 mln quid already sounds like an absurd sum for Kane. We'd probably have to spunk around double of the alleged bid to get him, Spurs don't want to sell, Levy's a dick, Kane doesn't want to leave, it's that easy.
Wasn't that much generally, it was for a young player alright. We spent £29m on Rio in 2002, two years prior to Rooney joining. Spent £28m on Veron the year before that.
Same rule applies now with Kane and £40m. It'd be a similar transfer IMO.
I'd be surprised if they didn't sell for £45-50m.
It would be a heck of a gamble on their part to hope he'd do well enough this season to improve on that valuation.
Up until Kaka in 09' the record fee was £46 Million (Zidane) so yes, it was a lot of money back then, especially for an 18 year old too.
There's no way we're getting him for 40 mil
He plays the same position as Rooney. If someone bothers to look at the heatmap of both players they'll realize how similar they are in the positions they occupy.
We need a player who can partner Rooney, a player who prefers the right side of the pitch would be a better fit in that case.
Don't see Kane fitting in the team unless Rooney moves into the #10 position
He plays the same position as Rooney. If someone bothers to look at the heatmap of both players they'll realize how similar they are in the positions they occupy.
We need a player who can partner Rooney, a player who prefers the right side of the pitch would be a better fit in that case.
Don't see Kane fitting in the team unless Rooney moves into the #10 position
It was absolutely huge money for a teenager, a world record in fact.
Levy's willing to take it imo, they're in no need to sell and they're ok with their money so.
It would be smart business on their part to sell. He could have a horrible season and his value would plummet. If a £30-40 Million offer comes in they'd be daft not to even consider it given how 'inexperienced' he is.
£40-£45 is probably about right considering Sterling's transfer, homegrown and the great season he has had. Also taking into consideration the long term investment that is being made. They can dismiss it all they want but I'm sure if we stuck a couple of add on's for further down the line then they'd be tempted.
I can't see him turning out to be a flop anyway thats for sure, he will continue to hit 15-20 goals next year and the season after if he stays with Spurs.
People asking for Berahino over him are bat shit crazy, Berahino hasn't even got 20 goals Yet!! Kane scored 2 more than him in One season!
I mean the amount wasn't that much in general, big name transfers were around that fee at the time. Rooney costing that much was a big fee yes, because of his age. Kane would be similar albeit a bit older than Rooney's transfer.
Agree, big difference to Rooney deal is that Everton basically accepted the player had to leave. They'd just finished 17th and the club's finances weren't great. Spurs can offer Kane European football (admittedly not Champions League) and assurances he'll be first choice. I'd expect Kane to stay put; another good season and the transfer fee doubles and he is allowed to go to a Champions League club (assuming Spurs aren't in it).
£40-£45 is probably about right considering Sterling's transfer, homegrown and the great season he has had. Also taking into consideration the long term investment that is being made. They can dismiss it all they want but I'm sure if we stuck a couple of add on's for further down the line then they'd be tempted.
I can't see him turning out to be a flop anyway thats for sure, he will continue to hit 15-20 goals next year and the season after if he stays with Spurs.
People asking for Berahino over him are bat shit crazy, Berahino hasn't even got 20 goals Yet!! Kane scored 2 more than him in One season!
Berahino would be considerably cheaper than Kane, who scored 7 more goals in the league last year in a superior team. Berahino for around £20 Million would be great value IMO.
He would also be a better 'backup' than Kane.
Who gives a shit if he's cheaper?
Christ's sake, the obsession over how much invisible virtual money is transferred between businesses entities is just weird.
He wouldn't have done too well in life if he was willing to look a gift horse in the mouth. I think he'd sell. I doubt anyone will bid that, mind.
Just putting aside the fact he *might* be a one season wonder, which is indisputable at this point, does anyone actually believe that is the most likely outcome? I certainly don't. Everything about him looks the real deal to me.
Because I doubt we'd spend upwards of 40 million on arguably a backup striker to Rooney.
I have only seen him in games where it seems he wasn't at his best and he was very good, so yeah there is a great chance that he is the real deal.
One season wonder is a bit dramatic but I wouldn't be surprised if he's just had the most productive season of his career.
Struggling to see what your argument is here. You think we should save a few pennies and get a backup striker who is much worse simply because it's better to have an average backup instead of two top strikers?
Kane would be bought for the next 15 years, not the next 1.
Wayne doesnt have age on his side and his form has been ropey for a long time. If he doesnt have a scorcher of a season this year then i can see him being replaced totally in the lineup.
I was skeptical at first but I honestly think he is the real deal, £40m is a bargain.
The homegrown premium has really jumped up in the last couple of years - Sterling, Kane, Shaw, Stones. It's just a function of the League's increasing revenues and the shallow talent pool of homegrown players. In hindsight we practically gave Welbeck away last summer...
Pretty easy really. I'll spell it out for you, I don't think Kane is worth £40 Million...
Not convinced by Kane yet. At least not at any price above £20M. That's all I can say.
Because of his age? That makes no sense, teenagers are generally cheaper, it remained a world record fee for one for nearly ten years.
You can quote me on this. Harry Kane won't be playing for a top 4 club in 5 years time.
He'll end up at Stoke
He'll end up at Stoke
He would be bought for the length of his contract.
So how much would you be willing to throw at them for a player that's had one good season?
Ouch. Brutal prediction lol
Good striker: £25m
English: £10m
Daniel Levy: £15m, and take down your pants
No chance of this
English: £10m
Daniel Levy: £15m, and take down your pants
No chance of this
Heh. That last paragraph is great. Funny 'cos it's true. I particularly like when people come out with stuff like "wouldn't go near him for £25m but would be a great signing for £20m".
Unfortunately, there's no chance he sells for that price man. Its gonna be a Levy Special of £40m+
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