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Those of you saying there is no chance we can get him for 40 mill just goes to show you that, that is the price you have to pay these days for someone with potential. He is a cracking player with everything to his game and I have no doubt that he is more than a one season wonder.

Stones and Kane would be essential buys in my mind for us right now. Who else is there available at that age with the right attitude, ability and englishness for want of a better phrase. They are absolute must buys.

Effectively the English defense right there for the future if not the present and the classic English center forward. Makes so much sense from a traditional Utd viewpoint.
 
Berbaclass said:
You can quote me on this. Harry Kane won't be playing for a top 4 club in 5 years time.

He'll end up at Stoke
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Lewis.no.9 said:
Ouch. Brutal prediction lol
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What a bizarre prediction. What on earth gives you that idea? While he could be less efective next season due to a number of reasons (being doubled up on like Bale had to deal with etc) i saw nothing to suggest he isn't going to go on to be a top quality striker. He has it all. Pace, energy, finishing, can beat a defender, can head a ball... Take all those traits and add 2/3 years experience at the highest level and you have one hell of a player. The potential is there, its just whether he can live up to it.
 
iammemphis said:
What a bizarre prediction. What on earth gives you that idea? While he could be less efective next season due to a number of reasons (being doubled up on like Bale had to deal with etc) i saw nothing to suggest he isn't going to go on to be a top quality striker. He has it all. Pace, energy, finishing, can beat a defender, can head a ball... Take all those traits and add 2/3 years experience at the highest level and you have one hell of a player. The potential is there, its just whether he can live up to it.
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Pace?
 
No point getting excited about any rumours this really ain't going to happen. Sorry to be Captain Buzzkill but there's more chance of Falcao scoring 40 goals for Chelsea than Levy accepting £40m for Kane from us. Look at how much he milked from Madrid for Bale, it's way too soon to justify figures like that for Kane but Levy will know that his value is very unlikely to go down in the next couple of seasons, you don't score as many as he did last year and then turn to crap, you just don't.
 
I see a lot of similarities between Kane and Benteke. The former is English which makes him better by default (sarcasm).
 
£40m would be incredible deal for Spurs. If they tried to sell him last season, how much do you reckon would they have got? I think around £3m from Palace or Leicester.
 
Super Nani said:
No point getting excited about any rumours this really ain't going to happen. Sorry to be Captain Buzzkill but there's more chance of Falcao scoring 40 goals for Chelsea than Levy accepting £40m for Kane from us. Look at how much he milked from Madrid for Bale, it's way too soon to justify figures like that for Kane but Levy will know that his value is very unlikely to go down in the next couple of seasons, you don't score as many as he did last year and then turn to crap, you just don't.
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There have been multiple forwards with similar records that were never good enough for big clubs (Phillips, Beattie, McCarthy, Yakubu and many more).
 
Super Nani said:
No point getting excited about any rumours this really ain't going to happen. Sorry to be Captain Buzzkill but there's more chance of Falcao scoring 40 goals for Chelsea than Levy accepting £40m for Kane from us. Look at how much he milked from Madrid for Bale, it's way too soon to justify figures like that for Kane but Levy will know that his value is very unlikely to go down in the next couple of seasons, you don't score as many as he did last year and then turn to crap, you just don't.
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Kevin Phillips once scored 30 PL goals in a season, as did Roque Santa Cruz (19), Benni Mcarthy (18), Michu (18), Andy Johnson (21), Benjani (15) etc etc etc

It can, and does, happen.
 
Sarni said:
There have been multiple forwards with similar records that were never good enough for big clubs (Phillips, Beattie, McCarthy, Yakubu and many more).
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Sam said:
Kevin Phillips once scored 30 PL goals in a season, as did Roque Santa Cruz (19), Benni Mcarthy (18), Michu (18), Andy Johnson (21), Benjani (15) etc etc etc

It can, and does, happen.
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It does happen but with him netting 24 last season, it's safe to say it's unlikely he won't get at least 20 this time round and for the foreseeable future. He was incredibly impressive last year and smart money has to be on him being the next top English striker. Now if he gets injured or his form dips next season then £40m will look like a damn good offer, at the moment though, Kane has the potential to be worth quite a bit more than that and Levy knows it.

I highly doubt there's any substance to the rumours anyway, it's more than likely Twitter rubbish so not worth thinking about. We're better off spending that sort of money on a top CB and trusting Hernandez and Wilson to be sufficient back up strikers to Rooney, at least until January where things can be assessed again. Dealing with Levy would be a waste of time, it would take a ridiculously high offer to get him to accept.
 
If £40 million is what it takes it would be worth the gamble. I see quality in Kane's play that tells me he isn't going to just fall off a cliff after one good season. He can pick a pass, carry the ball, head the ball and has a lethal shot from any distance. With skills like that, it would surprise me if what he showed last season turned out to be a fluke. If he keeps scoring at the same rate this season we might have missed our chance when next summer rolls around.

A young English striker that has proven he can get 20+ goals in the Premier League is pretty much perfect for us at the moment. I just can't see £40 million being enough to sway Levy, but I couldn't care less if we offer more. I'm all for signing him. We desperately need a striker and if there's any chance of Levy letting him go, we should be there with a bag of cash and a fat pay check.
 
Plenty of the goals that he scored can be credited to himself so he's not solely reliant on service. He's got functional technique and a good striking technique and he has stepped up in big matches like versus Chelsea and Arsenal. It's unfair to expect another 30-goal(!) season from him but I'm confident he's not a one-season wonder.
 
Not a one-season wonder, no, but I doubt he's likely to have many more seasons like the last one during his career. He's slow, and static, and now that teams have clocked what a threat he can be in front of goal, that'll make him relatively easy to subdue. He'll be a steady 20-a-season man, most likely.
 
Brightonian said:
Not a one-season wonder, no, but I doubt he's likely to have many more seasons like the last one during his career. He's slow, and static, and now that teams have clocked what a threat he can be in front of goal, that'll make him relatively easy to subdue. He'll be a steady 20-a-season man, most likely.
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I don't think he is slow at all, showed decent pace at times. Enough to outrun the average PL defender with a well timed run anyway. Llorente is someone I would label slow. :lol:
 
I've had discussions with a fair few Spurs fans about him over the past year, most of whom season ticket holders, and none of them are convinced that he's anywhere near as good as some on here would have you believe.

He undoubtedly had a great season. But there is a sense that absolutely everything that could have gone for him last season did, and even then we're really just talking about a 3 month spell around Christmas time where he was unplayable.

I would be very worried if the club splashed serious money on him this year, and think he's got it all to prove next season where he's no longer an unknown quantity. If he can do it again then fine, but there's serious doubts that he will for me.
 
VorZakone said:
I don't think he is slow at all, showed decent pace at times. Enough to outrun the average PL defender with a well timed run anyway. Llorente is someone I would label slow. :lol:
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He'd have to time the run very well. I don't know about his pace over distance, but that's rarely relevant for a footballer, and certainly not for a striker. His acceleration and general dynamism are very poor, and that's what counts. That's why he spends most of any given match standing still, waiting for the ball. Give it to him, and he can certainly bully defenders and score all sorts of goals. But he's not got the movement or legs to shake off defenders now that they'll be marking him as a particular threat, and I see him getting starved of the ball a fair few times this season.

Of course, if Spurs can muster up other genuine focal points for their attack, he'll find more room and things might go well for him again.
 
If Benteke is worth 32.5 then 40 million for Kane is a steal. Can't see them accepting that though.

The biggest problem would be Rooney wants to play as a striker so we can't justify £40+ million for somebody who is largely going to spend this season on the bench.
 
Would love to see Kane here, think he would be a good fit. Could ease in being at a big club by getting the odd game and take those late game appearances that Chicharito would get. Would get as many games as he did last year, but they would be bigger. He has a knack and is worth the shot if we could pull it off at a reasonable price.
 
Well if he's as bad as some people here are saying he is (eg. slow, had a "once-in-a-lifetime" 3-month spell, the next Michu, Kevin Davies etc), then Levy will certainly know this and be more than happy to sell, wouldn't he?

But if the inside word suggests he might be the next Shearer, then Levy isn't going to deal. Whichever way this rumour goes, there'll going to be a lot of unhappy people here on the Caf.

IMO, he's more likely a good striker who had an exceptional season. Probably more Sutton than Shearer. But I shudder to think what happens if Rooney suffers a long-term injury, so I'd take any good striker right now. Even for 40mil.
 
Moriarty said:
No such thing when dealing with Levy.
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Well, yeah, reasonable price is subjective though. It's just a question of whether United feel Levy's price is reasonable... At 22, English and full of potential, the numbers being talked about sound reasonable to me.
 
fatboy said:
Well if he's as bad as some people here are saying he is (eg. slow, had a "once-in-a-lifetime" 3-month spell, the next Michu, Kevin Davies etc), then Levy will certainly know this and be more than happy to sell, wouldn't he?

But if the inside word suggests he might be the next Shearer, then Levy isn't going to deal. Whichever way this rumour goes, there'll going to be a lot of unhappy people here on the Caf.

IMO, he's more likely a good striker who had an exceptional season. Probably more Sutton than Shearer. But I shudder to think what happens if Rooney suffers a long-term injury, so I'd take any good striker right now. Even for 40mil.
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There is absolutely no way he is the "next Shearer". Absolutely no way. He is a very good striker, should have a pretty good career but I dont think he is the level of striker we should be chasing. I doubt he will end up with the sort of goal scoring record Rooney has for example. He always cuts onto his right foot and I suspect defenders will be ready for this in the coming season. He has a pretty decent all round game but his biggest problem right now is being over hyped. Reminds me of what was happening when Gary Birtles was the flavour of the month years ago.
 
Stack said:
There is absolutely no way he is the "next Shearer". Absolutely no way. He is a very good striker, should have a pretty good career but I dont think he is the level of striker we should be chasing. I doubt he will end up with the sort of goal scoring record Rooney has for example. He always cuts onto his right foot and I suspect defenders will be ready for this in the coming season. He has a pretty decent all round game but his biggest problem right now is being over hyped. Reminds me of what was happening when Gary Birtles was the flavour of the month years ago.
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I'd gladly take a "very good striker" right now.

If we're hoping for big marquee names, it's a bit late for that. Those strikers play at clubs who don't need the money, don't want to sell, and can't replace them now even if they did. So between "very good striker" or no striker, I'll choose the former.
 
Funny thing is how many idiots expect him to be available for 40 million if he goes on to have another good season. Relatively speeking, 40 million is pretty much bees wax these days for a young player like him.

Even if he fails like andy carrol; a club would still go after him for ATLEAST half that price.

Or we could just wait and let the redcafe accountants talk about how bale or kane aren't worth 100 mil once they become a phenomenon.
 
Santiago_KinderBueno said:
Funny thing is how many idiots expect him to be available for 40 million if he goes on to have another good season. Relatively speeking, 40 million is pretty much bees wax these days for a young player like him.

Even if he fails like andy carrol; a club would still go after him for ATLEAST half that price.

Or we could just wait and let the redcafe accountants talk about how bale or kane aren't worth 100 mil once they become a phenomenon.
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While some idiots would mortgage their house and the rest of the world's to get a player who has shown it for just one season so far. And if/when he crashes these same people will cry about how we are not spending an eye-watering amount on the next one-season wonder. Go figure.
 
NecssryEvil said:
Would love to see Kane here, think he would be a good fit. Could ease in being at a big club by getting the odd game and take those late game appearances that Chicharito would get. Would get as many games as he did last year, but they would be bigger. He has a knack and is worth the shot if we could pull it off at a reasonable price.
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You don't spend 40 mil on a player who is supposed to be "eased in". With those amounts he has to compete with Rooney for a starting spot pretty much from the word go - especially since he is already playing for a decent sized team in the PL and Europa League. If we want another Chicharito, we better look for someone for half the price which is being quoted for Kane.
 
Super Nani said:
It does happen but with him netting 24 last season, it's safe to say it's unlikely he won't get at least 20 this time round and for the foreseeable future. He was incredibly impressive last year and smart money has to be on him being the next top English striker. Now if he gets injured or his form dips next season then £40m will look like a damn good offer, at the moment though, Kane has the potential to be worth quite a bit more than that and Levy knows it.

I highly doubt there's any substance to the rumours anyway, it's more than likely Twitter rubbish so not worth thinking about. We're better off spending that sort of money on a top CB and trusting Hernandez and Wilson to be sufficient back up strikers to Rooney, at least until January where things can be assessed again. Dealing with Levy would be a waste of time, it would take a ridiculously high offer to get him to accept.
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The bold part, again, despite @Sam showing more than a few players who got similar numbers and turned out to be one season wonders!
 
I'd seriously have question marks about Woodward if we got him for 40m. Many strikers have scored 30 goals in a season then gone cold after that. Signing him will be like signing Andy Carroll for 50m. Almost.
 
Quite a few people talk about him being a 'marked man' next season.
If it takes a whole new season for teams to mark him closely, then footballers are even dumber than people think they are. And their managers are too.

Would have expected teams to realise he needed attention back when... you know... he was banging in goal after goal, game after game.
 
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Speak said:
Quite a few people talk about him being a 'marked man' next season.
If it takes a whole a completely new season for teams to mark him closely, then footballers are even dumber than people think they are. And their managers are too.

Would have expected teams to realise he needed attention back when... you know... he was banging in goal after goal, game after game.
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Couldn't have said it better. Especially if van gaal is after him; his approach to play is as important as his goal numbers.

Thats why i doubt he's going to be the next andy carrol.
 
NK86 said:
While some idiots would mortgage their house and the rest of the world's to get a player who has shown it for just one season so far. And if/when he crashes these same people will cry about how we are not spending an eye-watering amount on the next one-season wonder. Go figure.
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Right. Let's just wait until he cost's us 80mil then.

There's more to strikers than goals; especially in van gaal's systems. If he likes what he has seen, its probably much more to do with what he can do with the ball at his feet rather than how or how many times he scores a goal.
 
Speak said:
Quite a few people talk about him being a 'marked man' next season.
If it takes a whole new season for teams to mark him closely, then footballers are even dumber than people think they are. And their managers are too.

Would have expected teams to realise he needed attention back when... you know... he was banging in goal after goal, game after game.
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Gary Birtles
 
Kevin Philips was a good striker who should have been given a chance to show it at a bigger club.

I think kane will be an Andy Cole level striker (though his style is closer to Sheringham) which is still a very good striker.
 
Santiago_KinderBueno said:
Right. Let's just wait until he cost's us 80mil then.

There's more to strikers than goals; especially in van gaal's systems. If he likes what he has seen, its probably much more to do with what he can do with the ball at his feet rather than how or how many times he scores a goal.
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Then you should follow what LVG has said about his strikers and what he wants from them if you think there is more to a striker tham scoring goals in LVG's system.

As for the 80 million pound comment, it is absolutely insane you would think that. He is yet to prove he is a 40 mil striker. Another season of 30+ goals might justify that outlay. Just because he will have two 25+ goals season would not mean that his price would double. If he does cost any club 80 mil (anyone stupid enough to pay that) then we would do well to stay well away. You can get a top striker and a CB with that amount. He is not the only young striker in the world, if you don't know that already.
 
If he hits another 30 goals this coming season, I can 100% guarantee you this - he will not be sold for 40+mil, or even 50+mil.
 
Berbaclass said:
Berahino would be considerably cheaper than Kane, who scored 7 more goals in the league last year in a superior team. Berahino for around £20 Million would be great value IMO.

He would also be a better 'backup' than Kane.
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Why penny pinch ffs, its United. £40-45M for Kane is a bargain in my mind. He'd stay with United for at least 6 seasons minimum I'd suggest, probably the rest of his career arguably. Yet you want a poorer quality forward in Berahino. Kane has shown glimpses of being a really good player possibly world class, what I've seen of Berahino I'd suggest he'll stick around mid table teams for his career.


Kostur said:
So how much would you be willing to throw at them for a player that's had one good season?
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Hard to say really but with add on's anything up to £47m would be a good investment for the future.

Good chance if we get a talented young European forward (German, Spanish etc) they could progress well and then Real or Barca come sniffing around and swipe him. I'd suggest Kane would be more likely to stay if that was to happen.


Santiago_KinderBueno said:
Right. Let's just wait until he cost's us 80mil then.

There's more to strikers than goals; especially in van gaal's systems. If he likes what he has seen, its probably much more to do with what he can do with the ball at his feet rather than how or how many times he scores a goal.
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Completely agree, your comment her and others hit the nail on the head. His all round play is superb. He's a big, strong technically sound forward with two good feet, holds up play well, brings Midfielders into attack and wide players and has an eye for a goal.

Forwards who have all this in their game are limited, he most definitely will be a very good forward in the years ahead. He'll average between 20-25 goals in most of his season's I'd imagine.

NK86 said:
Then you should follow what LVG has said about his strikers and what he wants from them if you think there is more to a striker tham scoring goals in LVG's system.

As for the 80 million pound comment, it is absolutely insane you would think that. He is yet to prove he is a 40 mil striker. Another season of 30+ goals might justify that outlay. Just because he will have two 25+ goals season would not mean that his price would double. If he does cost any club 80 mil (anyone stupid enough to pay that) then we would do well to stay well away. You can get a top striker and a CB with that amount. He is not the only young striker in the world, if you don't know that already.
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The bold part, yes...Yes it would!

Bale had 1 season where he hit that many goals and how much did Real spend on him again? ;)

If Kane hits another 20-25 goals this season the absolute minimum Spurs will let him go for will be in the €75-80m bracket. With his age, his form, he'd of proven it in his first two full seasons in the PL and still having a number of years left on his contract his price would double.
 
no way levy sells kane for 40 after seeing sterling leave liverpool for 49mil.

45mil at least.
 
LilRicky said:
Why penny pinch ffs, its United. £40-45M for Kane is a bargain in my mind. He'd stay with United for at least 6 seasons minimum I'd suggest, probably the rest of his career arguably. Yet you want a poorer quality forward in Berahino. Kane has shown glimpses of being a really good player possibly world class, .
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HA!!
 
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