Yeah, he'll still be at Spurs,
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Yeah, he'll still be at Spurs,
He does all the simple things impeccably, has arguably the best composure in the league, is ridiculously direct and he works tirelessly for his team. None of those traits are spectacular, but finding them all in one player is actually kind of rare. The reason people think he's a bit lucky/ordinary is that he never does anything in a more flashy way than he needs to. But by being in the right place at the right time, he can get away with not needing to.
One of those players who just understands the game better than anyone else on the pitch. He'd probably make a half decent midfielder or defender if he needed to.
Fergie would have loved him.
One of those players who just understands the game better than anyone else on the pitch. He'd probably make a half decent midfielder or defender if he needed to.
Fergie would have loved him.
Not really.
We saw towards the end of last season that teams started to figure him out and pay more attention in him.
Also it depends on if the player can handle the expectation in a new season as all eyes will be on him. A poor start and he might fold.
..or he'll sign for Pool.
Well in feller
Haha, zing.
I agree with this. Though the overall appraisal I wouldn't quite overstate. If he can replicate 3/4 or around that mark of last year's output, he'll be snapped up.
He's the closest thing England has to a Thomas Müller in terms of their style and how they achieve results is similar. While' that is a huge compliment it's also a huge sadness because he's a fair stretch behind Müller in terms of quality and overall effectiveness so far. A long way to go in his career but it's easy to see why he would appeal to van Gaal in that capacity and with a virtually blank cheque book available.
I did a stats piece in the striker thread, last year he scored the greatest variety of goals of the top strikers in England too. We'd be right to monitor his progress this season. It would still be a risk to go for him just yet, though with every goal, that risk reduces.
In contrast to the accepted wisdom of "its best for his career if he stays another season at spurs", I actually think his best chance of avoiding the above is moving to a big club (who need a striker, no point going to Chelsea to compete with Falcao and Remy to be back up for Costa).
Spurs are a flaky club, and could easily have a poor season, which he can't be expected to sort out single handedly at his age. He could easily be written off as a one season wonder, and end up on the Stoke trail.
At a club like united, though, a player of his quality should definitely get goals, and could soon establish himself as the top English striker.
Completely agree SirA1ex.
I'd prefer we bite the bullet now and get him at a price around the £40-45m bracket then wait another season.
Not sure why your "HA-ing" about, Sir A makes a fair point. He would develop into a great forward if we bought him. With LVG and his coaches around this season and next he'd improve further on his current qualities.
If we can get him for that it's a no-brainer in my book.
As I've said before, people focus too much on price and not enough on competition. Yes it's true that if he has another great season, his price might only rise from £40-50m to £60m, whihc doesn't affect our coffrers too much. But the difference would be that Chelsea, City, Madrid and God knows who else would be in for him, so whereas right now if we offer up enough cash to persuade club and player, we have a pretty much 100% chance of signing him, if we wait a year that drops to 25% or less.
Given Rooney's age, Kane should be happy to rotate / fight for the place for a season, and confident that within a year or two he'll be leading the line for us.
ive always said this. It may be red tinted spectacles but Im sure this club could have even made a success out of Andy Carroll for goodness sake. Everyone who points to these other "flops" always fail to realise they didnt flop at Utd. We would almost certainly guarantee Kane becoming a Superstar and Rooneys replacement in the squad and the world when Waynes excellent career winds down. We have free'd up nearly a Million in wages off the bill. Would Kane turn down being the No.1 guy for Manchester United, England, becoming a Star as big as Rooney throughout the World and get an increase in wages that would probably triple or quadruple what he is on currently at a club never guaranteed to be a part of the largest European competition, the Champions League.
I would think its safe to assume, if we start bidding big bucks for this guy, he would jump through fiery, STD infected hoops to get here.
I agree - in a lot of ways the "traditional british no9" role isn't that complicated, and if you've got a certain level of ability you'll do reasonably well in it. I've always thought that you could have stuck a Darren Bent, Carlton Cole or Jermain Defoe up front for United and they would have got goals and had much more stellar careers than they did.
The tricky bit is being good enough to win and keep the place in the face of opposition form other very good players - once you are leading the line for United, you are going to succeed.
Agree with all that. He also has a very good touch and close control (especially for an Englishmen) and has an excellent awareness for whats going on around him.
I think he's a great player who's only going to get better.
Mind you, he does sound pretty thick, so this isn't necesarily the case!
Couldn't of said it better, the fixation on the price doesn't make sense to me. Spurs and United are still vastly different clubs in their stature. Kane I'm sure would be in awe being at a club like United and knows full well he would have to prove himself first to be considered our main forward.
If LVG expects us to challenge for a title and progress in CL then we need a minimum of two very good forwards fighting for that one spot, Rooney and Kane would be perfect. They would each get approx 30-35 games depending on our level of success in the season ahead. Kane at 22 playing 30+ games would see him develop further.
Get it done Woody!
He's right, he'll be at United
I agree with that. Some forwards have a flash season then dissapear, but based on what I;ve seen I don;'t think he'll be one of those. He not only has the knack for scoring goals but also (as someone has pointed out below) the knack for scoring all kinds of goals.
He reminds me a bit of Teddy Sheringham in his movement, but also Alan Shearer in terms of being able to get goals when needed without looking particularly flash doing it. At the end of the day goals are what its about and if a player can bag 25 a season then it doesnt matter top me how he looks.
He's getting stick on here from some fans which I think is unfair. Yes, he needs to do what he did last year again and it might be premature to spend big on him now - but it doesnt mean he won't be a quality striker for the next ten years plus.
Woody is on it, don't worry. He's just going for a spectacular reveal, to trump the time Scholes came out of retirement against City.
Kane will not be anounced - he will just walk out at OT on Saturday wearing a United kit.
50m upfront
15m if he goes on to score more than 150 goals for United
5m if United win the CL whilst he is here
5m if he gets more than 50 England caps whilst at United
15m if he goes on to score more than 150 goals for United
5m if United win the CL whilst he is here
5m if he gets more than 50 England caps whilst at United
More like £80m up front before Levy even puts his specs on.
You can quote me too. You will be the only guy on the caf who will remember this 5 years from now.
His price currently is not 40 mil. He has had one good season. If he somehow does show this season that he is the real deal, then he will justify that 40 mil tag. The point that Madrid spend stupid amounts on players does not mean everyone else will. With FFP still in effect, there are only a handful of teams who can actually pay top money. What you also need to remember that for every Bale there is a Suarez and Fabregas. Players who are better and have gone for much less.Why penny pinch ffs, its United. £40-45M for Kane is a bargain in my mind. He'd stay with United for at least 6 seasons minimum I'd suggest, probably the rest of his career arguably. Yet you want a poorer quality forward in Berahino. Kane has shown glimpses of being a really good player possibly world class, what I've seen of Berahino I'd suggest he'll stick around mid table teams for his career.
Hard to say really but with add on's anything up to £47m would be a good investment for the future.
Good chance if we get a talented young European forward (German, Spanish etc) they could progress well and then Real or Barca come sniffing around and swipe him. I'd suggest Kane would be more likely to stay if that was to happen.
Completely agree, your comment her and others hit the nail on the head. His all round play is superb. He's a big, strong technically sound forward with two good feet, holds up play well, brings Midfielders into attack and wide players and has an eye for a goal.
Forwards who have all this in their game are limited, he most definitely will be a very good forward in the years ahead. He'll average between 20-25 goals in most of his season's I'd imagine.
The bold part, yes...Yes it would!
Bale had 1 season where he hit that many goals and how much did Real spend on him again?
If Kane hits another 20-25 goals this season the absolute minimum Spurs will let him go for will be in the €75-80m bracket. With his age, his form, he'd of proven it in his first two full seasons in the PL and still having a number of years left on his contract his price would double.
He's probably worth £100m. Unless he were racking up the same numbers in Serie A, Bundesliga or La Liga, then he'd be worth £15m.
Ah I see your applying logic to transfers fees!
Sterling was £49m in case you missed it and he has done little to nothing so far, Kane has had an incredible season at least. What has Sterling managed? Blows hot and cold throughout the season.
In an ideal world Kane would probably be valued at half the price quoted, reality is though Spurs and Levy would be looking for a minimum of £40m. If Kane was tempted by a bumper pay day and prospect of CL football to test himself why wouldn't he take that chance? I doubt Spurs will be getting CL football again any time soon so unless he moves this summer or next he could well get stuck there.
A move to United suits all parties as far as I can see.
I see. United shell out £30m for Luke "Tubbs" Shaw, and double that for Angel "Wantaway" di Maria, yet Kane - who scored 31 goals last season - is not worth £40m
I see. United shell out £30m for Luke "Tubbs" Shaw, and double that for Angel "Wantaway" di Maria, yet Kane - who scored 31 goals last season - is not worth £40m
Just because we overpaid, doesn't make your player worth 40m.
Most importantly, he's got a truly great name for an English Footballer. Perfect for an Old School No.9. And it naturally becomes a great nickname that will Headline sports pages for years.
And if it he makes it at United, he is the natural successor to Robson, Beckham and Rooney as the top English Superstar playing for the Red Devils.
And if it he makes it at United, he is the natural successor to Robson, Beckham and Rooney as the top English Superstar playing for the Red Devils.
Id be glad to get him for £40m tbh. It seems to be the going rate for top english players anyway.I see. United shell out £30m for Luke "Tubbs" Shaw, and double that for Angel "Wantaway" di Maria, yet Kane - who scored 31 goals last season - is not worth £40m
Ah yes, how easy it is to convince yourself that other clubs should just sell you the players that you want.ah yes, how easy it is to delude yourself into defending your own club out of bias? Utd are bigger than Spurs and we are coming for your players lol
Spurs would do great to sell him to United (or some other club) because he isn't worth the money. Bu they won't and will regret it. Defenders will pay much more attention to him this season and he won't be even remotely as effective as last season. I have nothing against him and wish him success but I can't shake off the feeling that last season will remain his best season for a long time.
It'd be the best for you and Kane too. For you because it's a significant price for a player you'd have probably sold for 10% that price last season, for Kane because he'd get to play at a much better club and for United because... it actually wouldn't be a good move for us.
We paid too much for Shaw, Kane's realistic price should be around what we paid for Shaw - £30m. Add Spurs tax and £40m is maximum. That said I don't want him here and he's not coming here because Levy is mad.I see. United shell out £30m for Luke "Tubbs" Shaw, and double that for Angel "Wantaway" di Maria, yet Kane - who scored 31 goals last season - is not worth £40m
We overpaid for Shaw, we needed a LB and got milked. Kane can dream of being anywhere near Di maria's talent though, which is what we paid for.I see. United shell out £30m for Luke "Tubbs" Shaw, and double that for Angel "Wantaway" di Maria, yet Kane - who scored 31 goals last season - is not worth £40m
I can see £40million + Hernandez (who Sky were reporting is a Spurs target) a very good deal. His value is about £12million and thats what West Ham were planning to offer for him. That makes it £50+mil in cash but Spurs get an instant replacement who is somewhat guaranteed to score. I cant see why they wouldnt think about this deal tbh. Hernandez would be amazing for them imo.
Considering the currant inflated price of English player's you have to think thats the going rate at the moment. Worth it ? I would say so would be a good addition to the squad and for me guarenteed goals.
Exactly. I think because in recent years we haven't been big spenders (when we should have been to address our midfield), then we haven't had a smooth progression transfer fee increases. Sure we signed Jones for around £17mil 5 years ago. Henderson was moving for the same sort of money at the time. Kane, based on last season's performance is easily worth 40mil. We are shopping in a more expensive store from now on.
Glaston would have been the first to say we over paid for them. Now he uses them as a barometer to say Kane is worth 40m.
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