Harry Kane | Real willing to prepare world-record £200m bid [The Times]

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hellohello said:
Agree, if he wants to leave he will be sold eventually, but those thinking Real can wave 200m and get him this summer doesn't understand how important Kane is to Spurs right now. I'm extremely confident Kane won't be sold this summer because:
- The message it would send to possible incoming players and sponsors (like Glaston says)
- The message it would send to Poch and the rest of the squad.
- We will not be able to get a similar player, or improve the squad with 200m (especially with our wage budget). Which again can have a horrible knock on effect on other players and also CL income/attracting new players.

This together makes it madness to accept 200m.

Now if Spurs doesn't get CL this year, and next while Kane continue to show amazing individual performances then maybe he'll leave next summer. I'm not naive enough to think he'll stay with us all his career regardless of the circumstances, but I truly believe that if Spurs can match his ambitions then he would prefer to stay here and win rather than winning at another club. If Kane really wants to leave, he will, - but he may decide to stay and if he does then Real can wave whatever they want, he will not be sold.

edit: I still believe we'll get top 4. Next weeks game will be a good one! ;)
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Kane seems like a player who wouldn't want to leave Spurs on a sour note, but ultimately, if he can get £350 or £400k a week at Real Madrid is he going to stay?

Kane could get £300k a week easily in the PL, maybe more in Madrid. The question here is whether Spurs going to break their wage structure to keep him knowing that Eriksen, Alli and numerous others will want huge increases as well. If players perform week in week out in the PL then they'll get offers from other clubs who can (and more importantly will) double their wages and offer them a better chance of winning trophies. Eventually something has to give at Spurs if they're going to keep the likes of Kane happy.
 
People can do all the mental gymnastics they want, fact is once the player decides it's enough and they want to move. They'll get their desired move, you can delay it by a window or two but in the end players hold all the cards. Spurs need to win a silverware and finish in CL places if they want to keep him for another summer or else he's a goner.

We've seen this story with Bale, it all starts with Spurs fans convincing themselves 'there is no chance he's sold this summer' and once it's inevitably done it turns to 'oh look how much money we got for him, LOL @Caf for thinking he's only worth X amount'. Kane is putting up numbers of Ronaldo, Suarez and Lewandowski while being paid fraction of the wages, hilarious to think that some believe he's gonna continue to do that because of the new 'best in business football stadium'.
 
If I was Kane I wouldn't go to Real. I'd want to break Shearers all-time premier league record of 260 goals, maybe even get above 300 and make it virtually unbreakable. If he was a foreigner it'd be different. Hoping Lukaku hits great heights, but I wouldn't be against the notion of buying/swapping Kane after potentially three consecutive years of Europa League.
 
Seven Seas Sardines said:
If I was Kane I wouldn't go to Real. I'd want to break Shearers all-time premier league record of 260 goals, maybe even get above 300 and make it virtually unbreakable. If he was a foreigner it'd be different. Hoping Lukaku hits great heights, but I wouldn't be against the notion of buying/swapping Kane after potentially three consecutive years of Europa League.
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Think of the figures he could reach in the La Liga though, it's very possible he'd reach the 40 goal mark season after season.. If he wants to be considered one of the best players on the planet it's a no brainer.
 
giorno said:
If PSG can, so can we
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Their owners could.

But yeah Madrid can. feckers broke the world transfer record twice in 2009 (80m + 60m for Ronaldo and Kaka) and then also bought Benzema and Xabi Alonso for 30m each. And that was 9 years ago, they could definitely find a way to fund a 250m purchase.
 
Devil may care said:
Non starter for us mate, we've had issues with Levy in the past and like with Moric and Bale he'll make sure Kane is sold out of the country even if it means taking less money, plus I think Kane will probably want to avoid the backlash of going to any of the other top English sides, and of course we bought Lukaku, so for now our bed is made and we lie in it as regards the striker position.
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In that case,better for us.Modric and Bale are good reasons to be optimistic,although I would be surprised if United simply give up with the best english player.
 
Skills said:
Their owners could.

But yeah Madrid can. feckers broke the world transfer record twice in 2009 (80m + 60m for Ronaldo and Kaka) and then also bought Benzema and Xabi Alonso for 30m each. And that was 9 years ago, they could definitely find a way to fund a 250m purchase.
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Didn't they do that with bank loans, something that is now outlawed under FFP?

@carvajal

Levy hates us. Bitter cnut will only sell Kane out of the PL.
 
Skills said:
Their owners could.
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FFP exists for them too, and we generate more than them. So strictly technically speaking, if PSG can afford to sign Neymar and Mbappé in one summer, at those fees and wages, and respect FFP, then so could we
 
Classical Mechanic said:
Didn't they do that with bank loans, something that is now outlawed under FFP?
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Yes and no. The important thing is you don't spend more than you earn. Bank loans would simply be needed for cash, they're not touching our revenue, only our debt
 
carvajal said:
In that case,better for us.Modric and Bale are good reasons to be optimistic,although I would be surprised if United simply give up with the best english player.
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I'd say you're only possible competition is PSG, they'd be able to match the money and might be looking to replace Cavani sooner rather than later.
 
I reckon City are gonna make a move for him in the Summer.

And I reckon he wants to leave, but wants to stay in the PL.

United should bid 250m, I honestly think in 5 years time it'd be considered money well spent.
 
Rhyme Animal said:
I reckon City are gonna make a move for him in the Summer.

And I reckon he wants to leave, but wants to stay in the PL.

United should bid 250m, I honestly think in 5 years time it'd be considered money well spent.
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Agreed. Dream signing this summer :drool:
 
Rhyme Animal said:
I reckon City are gonna make a move for him in the Summer.

And I reckon he wants to leave, but wants to stay in the PL.

United should bid 250m, I honestly think in 5 years time it'd be considered money well spent.
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The idea of Harry Kane playing for City gives me heartburn.

Please don't do that again.
 
If I were Levy, I'm not sure I would want to sell Kane, not even for £200m. Who can they bring in to fully replace him?

Though, if Kane really wants to go, it will happen.
 
United Pro said:
Then who will play on the left for them? They need both a Benzema and Ronaldo replacement soon and Kane will only solve one of them.
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I don't care who plays on the left.

They would look to Kane to replace Ronaldos goals. The left sided forward will replace Benzemas output.

There's zero point in buying Harry Kane and asking him to play like Benzema. If that's their sales pitch they have no chance of him even taking their phone call.
 
Random Task said:
The idea of Harry Kane playing for City gives me heartburn.

Please don't do that again.
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They will be in for him, every top team apart from Barca (Real, Utd, PSG, Chelsea, City) will be at least looking into what he'd cost to bring in.

Spurs fans need to let go of any delusional ego and accept that it's better for them to bring in 250m instead of clinging desperately to him for 1 more season.
 
Rhyme Animal said:
They will be in for him, every top team apart from Barca (Real, Utd, PSG, Chelsea, City) will be at least looking into what he'd cost to bring in.

Spurs fans need to let go of any delusional ego and accept that it's better for them to bring in 250m instead of clinging desperately to him for 1 more season.
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Why is it delusional ego? They want to keep hold off their best player who is arguably the best striker in Europe now and who is a product of their academy. I suspect it's partly pride but a lot more to do with the fact they want to hold onto him and build around him as long as they possibly can rather than cave into the chequebook. If they accept the money they still have the issue of being at the back of the queue for top players to sign so why get rid of the one they made.

Football's a game of opinions so don't go around with this 'delusional ego' talk. Just because you think one way doesn't make it right. That's the reason why Utd fans get a reputation for being snobbish and arrogant.
 
Only chance Madrid getting Kane is if Spurs miss out of the Champions League, but even then i can see him staying at Spurs.

Kane in Spain though would bang them in even more than he does in the Premier League against cannon fodder defenses over there.
 
Rhyme Animal said:
They will be in for him, every top team apart from Barca (Real, Utd, PSG, Chelsea, City) will be at least looking into what he'd cost to bring in.

Spurs fans need to let go of any delusional ego and accept that it's better for them to bring in 250m instead of clinging desperately to him for 1 more season.
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No doubt about it, City will be all over the idea of signing Kane. You would have to assume that Woody at United will be prepared to match anything they offer - within reason of course. Losing out on Shearer was bad enough, to lose his clone would be horrible, especially to City of all teams.

PS

when did the figure rise to £250 million?
 
Boycott said:
Why is it delusional ego? They want to keep hold off their best player who is arguably the best striker in Europe now and who is a product of their academy. I suspect it's partly pride but a lot more to do with the fact they want to hold onto him and build around him as long as they possibly can rather than cave into the chequebook. If they accept the money they still have the issue of being at the back of the queue for top players to sign so why get rid of the one they made.

Football's a game of opinions so don't go around with this 'delusional ego' talk. Just because you think one way doesn't make it right. That's the reason why Utd fans get a reputation for being snobbish and arrogant.
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Weird post - it reads like a delusional Spuds fan wrote it.

What have they actually achieved with Kane thus far?

Utterly nothing.

What are they gonna achieve with him next season? In another new ground, with probably 1 or 2 less key players than they have now? Seriously ask yourself what they're gonna achieve.

What's the point of them clinging on to him for one more season? Ego, as I said, that's the only reason.

It matters more to them that they don't look 'small-time', or like a 'feeder club', than it does to actually better the state of the club.

And then ask yourself, what could 250m bring them?

For 250m, in this window right now, they could get themselves a Mahrez, a Vardy, a VVD and still have the best part of 100m left over.

The reality is, Kane will leave Spuds - he's a World Class, elite level striker, and they're a team trying to finish Top 4 who never win anything. And if they do win something, it'll be a League Cup or FA Cup - 2 trophies that we've won in the past 2 seasons that don't seem to count for much these days...

In another season Kane could get injured, or he could start to want away and drop form - they should do the sensible thing that's best for the club, forget their egos, and get the cash.
 
I know the transfer scene has got a bit ridiculous over the last couple of years but 200mil for Kane? jesus.
 
I still don't understand why we didn't go for him in the summer. If we were prepared to spend €90m for Lukaku we should have been prepared to spend €150m for Kane.
 
Boycott said:
Why is it delusional ego? They want to keep hold off their best player who is arguably the best striker in Europe now and who is a product of their academy. I suspect it's partly pride but a lot more to do with the fact they want to hold onto him and build around him as long as they possibly can rather than cave into the chequebook. If they accept the money they still have the issue of being at the back of the queue for top players to sign so why get rid of the one they made.

Football's a game of opinions so don't go around with this 'delusional ego' talk. Just because you think one way doesn't make it right. That's the reason why Utd fans get a reputation for being snobbish and arrogant.
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This is the issue I have with this deal, all the money in the world cannot replace a player who is by all intents and purposes irreplaceable. Kane is absolutely essential to Spurs' ambitions, Real, United, City, whomever will have one hell of a fight in tearing him from Levy's grasp!
 
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Rhyme Animal said:
Weird post - it reads like a delusional Spuds fan wrote it.

What have they actually achieved with Kane thus far?

Utterly nothing.

What are they gonna achieve with him next season? In another new ground, with probably 1 or 2 less key players than they have now? Seriously ask yourself what they're gonna achieve.

What's the point of them clinging on to him for one more season? Ego, as I said, that's the only reason.

It matters more to them that they don't look 'small-time', or like a 'feeder club', than it does to actually better the state of the club.

And then ask yourself, what could 250m bring them?

For 250m, in this window right now, they could get themselves a Mahrez, a Vardy, a VVD and still have the best part of 100m left over.

The reality is, Kane will leave Spuds - he's a World Class, elite level striker, and they're a team trying to finish Top 4 who never win anything. And if they do win something, it'll be a League Cup or FA Cup - 2 trophies that we've won in the past 2 seasons that don't seem to count for much these days...

In another season Kane could get injured, or he could start to want away and drop form - they should do the sensible thing that's best for the club, forget their egos, and get the cash.
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I'm not in the business to talk in absolutes. That is all hypotheticals which you seem to wish to happen. But hypotheticals can blow in your face. What if they win the Champions League? Worse teams have after-all. Would you change the goalposts to 'they should leave on a high as it'll never be as good again'?

I never heard of Harry Kane as a top prospect while he was on loan to Milwall and now he's being banded around for world record prices. I don't know what the future will bring and neither do you.
 
Boycott said:
I'm not in the business to talk in absolutes. That is all hypotheticals which you seem to wish to happen.
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As a Utd fan, one of the few clubs in World footy who could afford Kane, don't you 'wish this to happen'...?

Your posts are reading like you're an undercover Spuds fan!

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But hypotheticals can blow in your face. What if they win the Champions League? Worse teams have after-all.
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You're telling me I'm talking 'hypotheticals', and then stating 'what if Spuds win the CL'... irony of the highest order.

They won't win the CL.

They've won nothing in 10 years. If they win anything it'll be the FA Cup or Europa League, 2 trophies that we've won during our 'slump' and which Spurs fans have been dismissive of us winning.
 
Samid said:
Worked so well last time when they had the Bale money. Kane is world class and you can't replace his goals and contributions overnight.
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They wouldn't be able to replace him period. He's homegrown. It would be like us selling Scholes in the 90's. United wouldn't have been as good even if they got a world record fee at the time.

I'd want to keep Kane as much as possible. Give him whatever he wants to keep him where he is.
 
Rhyme Animal said:
As a Utd fan, one of the few clubs in World footy who could afford Kane, don't you 'wish this to happen'...?

Your posts are reading like you're an undercover Spuds fan!



You're telling me I'm talking 'hypotheticals', and then stating 'what if Spuds win the CL'... irony of the highest order.

They won't win the CL.

They've won nothing in 10 years. If they win anything it'll be the FA Cup or Europa League, 2 trophies that we've won during our 'slump' and which Spurs fans have been dismissive of us winning.
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I would love to see Harry Kane in Utd red. He is a Ferguson player. If it happens I'll be delighted as he's a top player and seems a good bloke too. But I don't occupy myself as a so-called transfer muppet. You've got fellas who spent all summer in the Griezmann thread but that deal looks like dead and buried now. Waste of time and energy! As for as Kane goes here are three thoughts I have:

a) we have invested in Lukaku so we should commit to him
b) I have made it clear in my posting history I resent the transfer fees banded around so spending half the GDP of a small nation 200m on one player doesn't sit right to me. You alluded to the fact Spurs can reject the bid only for him to break his leg. The opposite is true - spend £200m and he breaks his leg in the first week.
c) I do like the idea of loyalty in football. I have sung the Shearer song fwiw but as I've got older I have gained a semblance of respect that he stayed loyal to his boyhood club. You have people who kiss the badge only to hand in transfer requests.

I only used the Champions League argument because you list the worst-case scenario so it's only balances the point. I can't predict the future. No one can so no point to get worked up about it and calculate the permutations.
 
£70 mill and Lukaku and Rashford. They get a proven striker and a hot prospect, we get the real deal for the next 8 or so years
 
wolvored said:
70 mill and Lukaku and Rashford. They get a proven striker and a hot prospect, we get the real deal for the next 8 or so years
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And then Kane ends up being actually worse than Lukaku.
 
wolvored said:
No chance of that. Do you really believe that hapening?
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Sure. I think that if we swap Lukaku and Kane right now, Kane would struggle in this Mourinho's team. He might to marginally better, but ultimately he would be much worse off that he is now.
A big part of Kane's current success is a football Spurs play.
Billy Blaggs said:
Behave. He's the best striker in the world
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Not really. He has a potential to be that, but he is not there yet.
 
Vilev said:
Sure. I think that if we swap Lukaku and Kane right now, Kane would struggle in this Mourinho's team. He might to marginally better, but ultimately he would be much worse off that he is now.
A big part of Kane's current success is a football Spurs play.
Not really. He has a potential to be that, but he is not there yet.
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I think Sanchez will lift the attack to better things, and with Kane we would have 50 goals a season between them
 
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