Harry Kane | Real willing to prepare world-record £200m bid [The Times]

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I know what he is tryng to say, what if he would prefer a move to Real rather than United. I find "what if" arguments to be completely pointless because they have no basis for fact.

Neither of us know where Kane wishes to ply his trade after spurs, so what is the point in speculating?

No one knows that Kane wants to leave Spurs but that doesn't stop speculating.
 
You're presistent.

The question was "what if Kane would prefer a move to Real"

You have to first consider how much his personal preference will play a part in precedings. The vast majority of professional footballers will go to the highest bidder, regardless of their personal feelings. We all know that, we don't like to admit it but it is fact nonetheless. He may prefer a move to Real, but are they prepared to offer what United will offer in terms of salary + benefits? Maybe, maybe not.

You have to also consider the effect of losing Kane will have on Spurs. He is practically carrying them right now, their entire tactical system has been generated to favour his goal scoring exploits. Losing him would be hugely detremental to their cause. Now £200 million is a vast sum of money on the face of it, but the loss of Kane makes the money largely irrelevant. Any replacement will be subpar to that which they possess in Kane.

Now a question for you, if you are Spurs, would you prefer £200 million cash or £100 million + a Prem proven goal scorer in Lukaku?
You've certainly come a long way from this:

I find "what if" arguments to be completely pointless because they have no basis for fact.

To answer your question, I have no idea.
 
£200 million cash is a better deal than £100 million plus Lukaku, especially as he’d be worse in Spurs style of play than he is in ours. They’d want someone better than him to replace Kane.
 
Harry Kane is the best striker in the world and is more than good enough to perform at any club.

But if Real Madrid will still keep Cristiano Ronaldo as the focal point, then he becomes a new Alvario Morata...

Not saying that Morata is on the same level with Kane, but the Spaniard & CR7 likes to want to occupy same spaces centrally.

Morata was terrible everytime when he was pushed to the left wing everytime because of Cristiano's presence on the field.


Short and simple: Harry Kane will flop at Real Madrid unless they get rid of Cristiano Ronaldo.

Inevitable link this. Madrid need a replacement for Benzema that fits their style and there are none better than Kane.

Firmino would be a better fit for Madrid's current set-up as he's more or less the Brazilian version of Benzema.
 
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I hope he does go, just as a fan of the player. He's already at a level very few players reach for as long as he has, he deserves to give it a go on the biggest stage. And that's not Spurs.

I could 100% see him coming close to Ronaldo level of scoring playing for Real in La Liga. And being up there with a chance of winning the CL. What more could the player want?

He's reaching the peak of his career, he should want to challenge himself.
 
Harry Kane is the best striker in the world and is more than good enough to perform at any club.

But if Real Madrid will still keep Cristiano Ronaldo, then he becomes a new Alvario Morata...

Not saying that Morata is on the same level with Kane, but the Spaniard & CR7 likes to want to occupy same spaces centrally.

Morata was terrible everytime when he was pushed to the left wing everytime because of Cristiano's presence on the field.


Short and simple: Harry Kane will flop at Real Madrid unless they get rid of Cristiano Ronaldo.

Flops at Real and we sign him 2yrs later :drool:
 
Inflation, inflation, inflation.

Moreover, it will feature Europe's largest single-tier stand, be state-of-the-art, be the newest stadium on the block and unique to boot, with the world's first dividing retractable pitch. How many other club stadiums host both football and NFL football?
I don’t see why a large single tier will attract higher sponsorship. It’s to do with exposure. Why has a deal not been agreed at that price yet if it’s as straightforward as you think?
 
CenturyLink Field and Mercedes-Benz Stadium.

Edit: oh and that shithole in New England.

CenturyLink Field: the same artificial pitch for both football and NFL football - not great. The same for the Mercedes-Benz Stadium.

The Spurs stadium will uniquely - in terms of football clubs - have a separate pitch for each. And will be able to host both a football match and an NFL game on the same day.
 
It's mainly down to what Kane wants.
If Kane really wants out, he will be sold eventually. If he wants to be sold this summer, he surely would have to be pretty forceful, not to say nasty, in pushing for a move, and he doesn't strike me as the type to do that. He strikes me as the type who is happy at Spurs, and in England, and who is not one to be angling for the next move. At the moment, @GlastonSpur 's confidence doesn't seem far-fetched.

On the other hand, a Galactico move is a once in a lifetime chance, and a footballer's career is a bit too short to calmly wait for second chances. His hype will be increasing considerably now that he has established himself among the very elite, and is playing on the CL stage. Add Spurs not getting into CL, as is likely, and the landscape of his mind might change very quickly.
 
It's relevant to this exchange, but we outbid Real for Bale and he still went there. That doesn't mean Kane would, but it's worth considering.

Given Levy's utterly bizzare hatred of all things United, I'm sure he used every ounce of his influence to persuade Bale to go to Real rather than United.

Same will happen with Kane no doubt. Still won't stop me wishing for the opposite though.
 
I think once we get Sanchez and our wide supporting forwards are a lot more fluid and interchangeable along with the stardust Sanchez brings we’ll see Lukaku playing much better and scoring lots of goals again but that said if Spurs would take £100 million plus Lukaku for Kane I’d be 100% behind it as I think Kane has now become the best out and out striker around.

I know negotiating with Levy is a nightmare but as said already £200 million or £100 million plus Lukaku is a fecking lot of money and that could be enough to see Levy go along with the deal as he’s a businessman first and foremost, just the thought of a Sanchez-Kane-Martial strike force is mouthwatering.
 
As much as Kane would excel at Utd I think he is too loyal to do the dirt on Spurs, unless Levy gets an offer he cannot refuse.

This Times story is probably just a wages negotiating tactic.

However, I would guess that Levy might sell one of Son, Eriksen or Dele Alli for silly money.
 
I don’t see why a large single tier will attract higher sponsorship. It’s to do with exposure. Why has a deal not been agreed at that price yet if it’s as straightforward as you think?

Not of itself - it's simply one stand-out feature among many. The key factors in terms of sponsorship are the dual football/NFL football capacity and the direction of football inflation.

Nor am I saying that a £400m deal will necessarily be reached, but that's the aim. The stadium doesn't open for another 7 months, so plenty of time left to reach/announce a deal ... and discussions have been underway for a while with prospective sponsors.
 
Not of itself - it's simply one stand-out feature among many. The key factors in terms of sponsorship are the dual football/NFL football capacity and the direction of football inflation.

Nor am I saying that a £400m deal will necessarily be reached, but that's the aim. The stadium doesn't open for another 7 months, so plenty of time left to reach/announce a deal ... and discussions have been underway for a while with prospective sponsors.
The key is how many people will hear the name and how often. Your single tier will play no part whatsoever because nobody other than those sitting in it will give a shit.
 
Harry Kane is the best striker in the world and is more than good enough to perform at any club.

But if Real Madrid will still keep Cristiano Ronaldo as the focal point, then he becomes a new Alvario Morata...

Not saying that Morata is on the same level with Kane, but the Spaniard & CR7 likes to want to occupy same spaces centrally.

Morata was terrible everytime when he was pushed to the left wing everytime because of Cristiano's presence on the field.


Short and simple: Harry Kane will flop at Real Madrid unless they get rid of Cristiano Ronaldo.



Firmino would be a better fit for Madrid's current set-up as he's more or less the Brazilian version of Benzema.

It's pretty clear that Ronaldo's exit is just a matter of time now. No club can afford to pay 50m++ € annual wages to a guy who has stopped scoring.

So then Real wouldn't need to replace Benzema as much as they need to replace Benzema and Ronaldo's goals. Firmino only is a better fit if they sign a Ronaldo replacement that can replicate Ronaldo's numbers (or close to) playing 'wide'.

In absence of that, signing Kane is the most natural thing they can try to do.
 
Can’t see Spurs selling Kane this summer even for £200m. Like others have said wouldn’t surprise me if this is a negotiation tactic from Kane’s agent.
 
CenturyLink Field: the same artificial pitch for both football and NFL football - not great. The same for the Mercedes-Benz Stadium.

The Spurs stadium will uniquely - in terms of football clubs - have a separate pitch for each. And will be able to host both a football match and an NFL game on the same day.

Which is cool, but irrelevant in terms of the price of naming rights.
 
I’m confused as to why selling Kane would affect their naming rights. What company would spend more on a 20 year contract because of a player that at best will be relevant for about ten years and at worst be gone in a couple of years? Bonkers.
 
Given Levy's utterly bizzare hatred of all things United, I'm sure he used every ounce of his influence to persuade Bale to go to Real rather than United.

Same will happen with Kane no doubt. Still won't stop me wishing for the opposite though.

Now now, Bale wanted Real and only Real, that was pretty clear. I don't see Levy hating United at all, i don't think he's the kinda of guy to get riled like that.
 
It's mainly down to what Kane wants.
If Kane really wants out, he will be sold eventually. If he wants to be sold this summer, he surely would have to be pretty forceful, not to say nasty, in pushing for a move, and he doesn't strike me as the type to do that. He strikes me as the type who is happy at Spurs, and in England, and who is not one to be angling for the next move. At the moment, @GlastonSpur 's confidence doesn't seem far-fetched.

On the other hand, a Galactico move is a once in a lifetime chance, and a footballer's career is a bit too short to calmly wait for second chances. His hype will be increasing considerably now that he has established himself among the very elite, and is playing on the CL stage. Add Spurs not getting into CL, as is likely, and the landscape of his mind might change very quickly.

Agree, if he wants to leave he will be sold eventually, but those thinking Real can wave 200m and get him this summer doesn't understand how important Kane is to Spurs right now. I'm extremely confident Kane won't be sold this summer because:
- The message it would send to possible incoming players and sponsors (like Glaston says)
- The message it would send to Poch and the rest of the squad.
- We will not be able to get a similar player, or improve the squad with 200m (especially with our wage budget). Which again can have a horrible knock on effect on other players and also CL income/attracting new players.

This together makes it madness to accept 200m.

Now if Spurs doesn't get CL this year, and next while Kane continue to show amazing individual performances then maybe he'll leave next summer. I'm not naive enough to think he'll stay with us all his career regardless of the circumstances, but I truly believe that if Spurs can match his ambitions then he would prefer to stay here and win rather than winning at another club. If Kane really wants to leave, he will, - but he may decide to stay and if he does then Real can wave whatever they want, he will not be sold.

edit: I still believe we'll get top 4. Next weeks game will be a good one! ;)
 
Agree, if he wants to leave he will be sold eventually, but those thinking Real can wave 200m and get him this summer doesn't understand how important Kane is to Spurs right now. I'm extremely confident Kane won't be sold this summer because:
- The message it would send to possible incoming players and sponsors (like Glaston says)
- The message it would send to Poch and the rest of the squad.
- We will not be able to get a similar player, or improve the squad with 200m (especially with our wage budget). Which again can have a horrible knock on effect on other players and also CL income/attracting new players.

This together makes it madness to accept 200m.

Now if Spurs doesn't get CL this year, and next while Kane continue to show amazing individual performances then maybe he'll leave next summer. I'm not naive enough to think he'll stay with us all his career regardless of the circumstances, but I truly believe that if Spurs can match his ambitions then he would prefer to stay here and win rather than winning at another club. If Kane really wants to leave, he will, - but he may decide to stay and if he does then Real can wave whatever they want, he will not be sold.

edit: I still believe we'll get top 4. Next weeks game will be a good one! ;)
Something doesn't quite add up.
 
200m is a lot and rightfully so for Kane. But selling him this summer when you’re on the verge of a new era, moving into a state of the art stadium? It would be a terrible decision from a marketing standpoint.

Madrid will end up with Icardi who’s actually attainable and IMO the second best striker in the world on form.
 
He is going to sign a massive new contract in the summer but papers gotta sell so rubbish like this will get pushed in the press until he does. He may end up at Madrid but it won't be for another 2-3 years if ever.
 
Given Levy's utterly bizzare hatred of all things United, I'm sure he used every ounce of his influence to persuade Bale to go to Real rather than United.

Same will happen with Kane no doubt. Still won't stop me wishing for the opposite though.

Why do you think that? We have sold a few big players to United over the past 10 years or so - Carrick, Berbatov. No issue there at all.
 
He is going to sign a massive new contract in the summer but papers gotta sell so rubbish like this will get pushed in the press until he does. He may end up at Madrid but it won't be for another 2-3 years if ever.
When Madrid spend big, in tends to be on younger players now. So, I don't think they'd spend big money in 2/3 seasons for Kane, when they could potentially get him for a similar this summer.
 
When Madrid spend big, in tends to be on younger players now. So, I don't think they'd spend big money in 2/3 seasons for Kane, when they could potentially get him for a similar this summer.

Madrid probably can't afford to spend that amount of cash on players anymore tbh.
 
There were plenty of issues.

There are always issues when it comes to buying players, especially important players from one team to another. I don't think there has been anything particular in that regard with Utd and Spurs. I just hadn't realised that some people thought there was an issue between the two clubs because certainly from the Spurs side I've heard nothing of the sort. Chelsea yes though - problem there and we simply will not deal with them. Utd, no problems.
 
Tssk, finished ahead of you lately ;)
I wouldn't call that much of an achievement. We've been shite.

Still, surely you see the problem. Almost all PL winners (barring Leicester, who had the biggest freak season ever) were up there with the very highest spenders in the league both in transfers and wages. Kane will surely want a PL medal to match those ambitions you speak of and I doubt Spurs will be giving him that any time soon.
 
Madrid probably can't afford to spend that amount of cash on players anymore tbh.
Madrid have been scrimping for the last few years, they have cashed saved and Perez will break the ban after that if needed on a rebuild. Wouldn't put it past them to spend huge sums this summer, especially if they go out to psg and poor league form continues.
 
There are always issues when it comes to buying players, especially important players from one team to another. I don't think there has been anything particular in that regard with Utd and Spurs. I just hadn't realised that some people thought there was an issue between the two clubs because certainly from the Spurs side I've heard nothing of the sort. Chelsea yes though - problem there and we simply will not deal with them. Utd, no problems.
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