Harry Kane | Real willing to prepare world-record £200m bid [The Times]

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It's not difficult to understand. You obviously enquired, being in the market for a striker, but were told 'no chance'. So you opted for Lukaku instead.

You sound like you already know he's inevitably leaving. I like that, its being realistic.

Spurs will not finish in the top 4 this season and Kane is way too good to not be playing in the Champions League every season.

Not saying he's coming to United (although I'd love nothing more) but he won't be staying at Spurs that's obvious.

And no, he's not 'happy' getting paid 1/3 of what he's worth - neither would you be.
 
We must pay whatever it takes to get Kane. I always believe that we should keep getting the best English players whenever we can its something that big teams always do.

Look at Bayern and Juve, whenever they have the opportunity to sign a German or an Italian player then they will go for it.
 
In all seriousness, I don't think we'll be in for Kane because of signing Rom, and because of how hard Rom has worked thus far and how well he's fitted in.

Sanchez----Rom----Martial front three is scary and will bring a lot of goals if they all stay fit.

I can't see the club realistically ditching Rom.
 
To pay off their stadium cost and escaping the "Emirates stadium recovery syndrome", better sell Kane for that kind of money.

This rumor somehow make a lot of sense and quite possibly plausible to happen next summer.
 
Kane will leave sooner or later that is for sure. Real or Paris are the most realistic destinations.
It would be funny if he went to Paris and they suddenly Play with the front 3 that Real would have loved to field themselves.

I cannot see that we will have any Chance to highjack this deal.

Beside that I think that a front free of Lukaku-Sanchez-Martial could turn out to be pretty effective and for our style of Play Lukaku might be a good fit once they find their chemistry.
 
In all seriousness, I don't think we'll be in for Kane because of signing Rom, and because of how hard Rom has worked thus far and how well he's fitted in.

Sanchez----Rom----Martial front three is scary and will bring a lot of goals if they all stay fit.

I can't see the club realistically ditching Rom
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and we don't have to, lukaku isn't doing bad himself, he's just underated by our fanbase. he is closer to Kane than what people think in term of output.


Harry Kane (Played for one of the best spurs sides in history)

Appearances 139
Goals 99
Assists 13
Total: 112 G+A in 139 games
A goal or an assists every 112 minutes

Romelu Lukaku (Played for West brom and Everton until this year)

Appearances 209
Goals 96
Assists 33
Total: 129 G+A in 209 games
A goal or an assists every 145



I'm not saying Lukaku is better than Kane as he isn't right now, i'm saying that Lukaku is excellent and that the 125M£ difference between the valuation of the two players is way out of line.


 

I'm not saying Lukaku is better than Kane as he isn't right now, i'm saying that Lukaku is excellent and that the 125M£ difference between the valuation of the two players is way out of line.

It's not way out of line. One is a world class striker. Arguably the best in the world currently. And the other is a very good and hardworking striker.

Kane is the one that makes this Spurs side the best in their history, not the other way around.

And if you want to compare stats:

Kane has 21 goals and 1 assist in 23 appearances for the 5th placed side in the league
Lukaku has only 11 goals & 5 assists in the same 23 appearances for the 2nd places side in the league.

Kane is scoring almost a goal a game & Lukaku a goal every 2 games.

Kane will definitely go for at least double the amount that Lukaku went for, if not more.
 
As i've said it's stupid to count goals in calendar years. Football tournaments played across seasons. And if we look at last season his goal tally was not highest. And i doubt it will be highest this year as well.
He is one of the better, top strikers obviously, but calling him "the best" is jumping a gun.
Always gonna be a matter of op
and we don't have to, lukaku isn't doing bad himself, he's just underated by our fanbase. he is closer to Kane than what people think in term of output.


Harry Kane (Played for one of the best spurs sides in history)

Appearances 139
Goals 99
Assists 13
Total: 112 G+A in 139 games
A goal or an assists every 112 minutes

Romelu Lukaku (Played for West brom and Everton until this year)

Appearances 209
Goals 96
Assists 33
Total: 129 G+A in 209 games
A goal or an assists every 145



I'm not saying Lukaku is better than Kane as he isn't right now, i'm saying that Lukaku is excellent and that the 125M£ difference between the valuation of the two players is way out of line.

”one of the best Spurs sides in history” ... and they’re still shite:lol:. Listen I really rate Lukaku and fully support him, he’s doing well most weeks m and working hard for us but Kane is just a different level. Imo the best striker in the world and would be worth paying anything for.
 
Why is it less relevant than a season? It’s just another period to look at it, and in January 2018, it gives a good idea of a players form.

If a player scores 10 goals in 10 games, would you agree that he’s in good form?

How is this any different???

And as for your last point - 12 months is a year so it’s a half tidy reference point. 20 months isn’t. Neither is 10.

Nobody is giving him a medal for it. It’s just a stat, like loads that get thrown about in football.
It is one of those pointless stats that Liverpool fans typically use to feel less shit about themselves. It is totally irrelevant. I think that Spurs won more points than any other team in last 2 years, but they were never competing for the titles that Leicester and Chelsea got. It says all about stats on calendar years.

To the point, I think that Kane is great, but I have Lewa as the best striker in the world. It also needs to be said that Kane is totally unproven in the big stage both for club and country, so it is premature to call him the best. It happens always with English players though and then people wonder why English team is crap.
 
Always gonna be a matter of op

”one of the best Spurs sides in history” ... and they’re still shite:lol:. Listen I really rate Lukaku and fully support him, he’s doing well most weeks m and working hard for us but Kane is just a different level. Imo the best striker in the world and would be worth paying anything for.

Com'on now, the best striker in the world ? he's hyped up to death. he's an excellent striker but not the best striker in the world.

What does he offer more than a Messi, a Suarez or a neymar ?

Suarez is at 15 goals and 4 assists in 17 apps, Messi is at 19 + 9 in 20 apps, Neymar at 15 + 11 in 15 apps and Kane 21 + 1 in 22 apps. so it's not goals as they are all at the same Goal per game ratio (1 per game). and it definitly isn't assists because he just has 1!

And those are the obvious choices in terms of best strikers. you can also throw Dybala in with a 14 goals + 1 asssits in 14 games, Aguero has 16 goals in 17 games ... and so on.

Stats aren't everything, but if in terms of stats he is offering the same thing as the aforementioned strikers. he's definitly not better than them in term of of technique and there's no chances he offers more to the play of their respective teams than them.

So, how is he the best striker in the world ? and how would he be worth the money paid for neymar ? would you care to elaborate on that ?
 
and we don't have to, lukaku isn't doing bad himself, he's just underated by our fanbase. he is closer to Kane than what people think in term of output.


Harry Kane (Played for one of the best spurs sides in history)

Appearances 139
Goals 99
Assists 13
Total: 112 G+A in 139 games
A goal or an assists every 112 minutes

Romelu Lukaku (Played for West brom and Everton until this year)

Appearances 209
Goals 96
Assists 33
Total: 129 G+A in 209 games
A goal or an assists every 145



I'm not saying Lukaku is better than Kane as he isn't right now, i'm saying that Lukaku is excellent and that the 125M£ difference between the valuation of the two players is way out of line.

Was Lukaku not in the last year of his contract as well ? which is why it was maybe a bit cheaper to a degree.
 
United won't go for Kane. If we do we will end up with a huge problem. We cannot accommodate both Lukaku and Kane. So it would mean Lukaku leaving. Raiola won't be happy and neither would Pogba. I am not sure it's worth the risk of upsetting Pogba because that would then the be second player very close to Pogba (all Raiola clients) that we're pushing out of the club. Also, I am not sure RM have the money to fund the deal either as they'd have to sell first and I don't see anyone other PSG buying their overpriced and over payed stars like CR and Bale.
 
If coutinho went for 146m then Levy will be wanting at least double for Kane for me. cant see him going for 200M also sure he's got a decent amount of time left on his contract
 
Football is played across seasons, not calendar years. To count points, goals, etc in calendar years is ludicrous, only a moron would actually do it. Though is don't see how Kane could have scored most goals in calendar year as well. That could only be possible if you don't count some of them for other players.
What's your deal mate. It's a stat that's often referred to at the end of every year. For example, a couple of years it was talked about when Messi broke a record by Müller. I'm sure there are many much more meaningless and moronic stats in football than counting the goals a striker scored in the past 12 months. How meaningful you personally deem it I couldn't care less. I was just informing you because you denied its facticity.
 
We will not get Kane directly from Spurs because for some reason Levy thinks we are supposed to be long term rivals, the only way Kane comes here is via Real Madrid or another foreign club who buy him and then sell him to us.

It obviously won't happen but it would be amazingly funny if we agreed with Real Madrid that they buy him for a certain fee, we give them 5% extra and buy him from them in the same window, and Levy does not even realize he just sold him to us - meltdown.
 
I thought it was just under that, but either way just proves the point, never selling for £200m unless he flopped hard and this is Neymar in France, no chance of ever flopping!

Actually it simply means even neymar and barcelona can't refuse 200m. And kane is not as good as neymar

Levy is a slick dealer. But that doesn't mean. He's not dealing.

Berbatov/bale to name a few.

It'll depend on kane, if he wants madrid he will go to madrid, you don't try to make a point and let your 200m potential asset run down his contract and goes for free
 
Arguably the best striker in the world leaving the league would be a damn shame. It shouldn't happen.


One of the world's best strikers is such a waste at Spurs, though, plus you have to actually win stuff to be considered one of the best. Kane knows that and probably has some ambition for himself. He needs to move to a club that competes for trophies, or he's wasting himself.
 
Actually it simply means even neymar and barcelona can't refuse 200m. And kane is not as good as neymar

Levy is a slick dealer. But that doesn't mean. He's not dealing.

Berbatov/bale to name a few.

It'll depend on kane, if he wants madrid he will go to madrid, you don't try to make a point and let your 200m potential asset run down his contract and goes for free

Barca didn’t choose to sell Neymar, he had a buy out clause in his contract and Neymar accepted the opportunity to move.

I don’t think Barca would have sold at that price if there was no clause. As demonstrated they have had to spend a lot more on two other players to try and compensate for him.
 
I just hope he doesn't end up at City. Real is bad enough but City? God no.

I hope he stays at Spurs if we fail to get him.
He will probably move abroad if he leaves. He's a spurs fan and if he does play for another premier team he will probably do it after 3-4 years abroad
 
We will not get Kane directly from Spurs because for some reason Levy thinks we are supposed to be long term rivals, the only way Kane comes here is via Real Madrid or another foreign club who buy him and then sell him to us.

It obviously won't happen but it would be amazingly funny if we agreed with Real Madrid that they buy him for a certain fee, we give them 5% extra and buy him from them in the same window, and Levy does not even realize he just sold him to us - meltdown.

Um, sorry to break it to you mate but we have been rivals for quite a few years now and hopefully will be for the forseeable future.
 
Um, sorry to break it to you mate but we have been rivals for quite a few years now and hopefully will be for the forseeable future.

No, we were underachieving for a few years (with you arguably overachieving) which was the reason why we were below you in the league. United and Spurs at this point are not in the same tier in terms of club status and goals.
 
Because the tournaments is played across the season. So a season is a fraction of time when a league, cups start and end.
What does calendar year represent in football exactly? Nothing. As i've said as of now Kane never even scored a 40+ goals in a season. Sure it's a lot, but others Messi, Lewa, Ronaldo all've done it several times. He is a great players, one of the best, but he still has a lot to go to be the best striker.

Comparing in calendar years is done because leagues across the world play their seasons in different periods and international football is often played during the off-season.
 
No, we were underachieving for a few years (with you arguably overachieving) which was the reason why we were below you in the league. United and Spurs at this point are not in the same tier in terms of club status and goals.

Doesn't matter why or what happened though does it - we are rivals. You can see it as underachieving if you want but it doesn't detract from the fact that we are much closer now than we have been in many years.
 
No, we were underachieving for a few years (with you arguably overachieving) which was the reason why we were below you in the league. United and Spurs at this point are not in the same tier in terms of club status and goals.

Id say we are currently under achieving, well this season anyway.
 
Kane seems like a player who wouldn't want to leave Spurs on a sour note, but ultimately, if he can get £350 or £400k a week at Real Madrid is he going to stay?

Kane could get £300k a week easily in the PL, maybe more in Madrid. The question here is whether Spurs going to break their wage structure to keep him knowing that Eriksen, Alli and numerous others will want huge increases as well. If players perform week in week out in the PL then they'll get offers from other clubs who can (and more importantly will) double their wages and offer them a better chance of winning trophies. Eventually something has to give at Spurs if they're going to keep the likes of Kane happy.

Agree, I think Spurs will break the wage structure for Kane this summer, and probably to a lesser extent for other players too. Got to evolve with the new financial demands, but with the TV money we should be able to do so.
 
People were saying same thing about Lukaku, Pogba.
Even if Sanchez will make our attack better, i certainly hope so, the main reason for our attacking gloom still remains.

3rd most goals in the league. Our additions have made our attack better from where it was under LVG and last season. If you're gloomy about that, that sucks.
 
It's not way out of line. One is a world class striker. Arguably the best in the world currently. And the other is a very good and hardworking striker.

Kane is the one that makes this Spurs side the best in their history, not the other way around.

Aren't there previous Spurs sides who actually, you know, won stuff...?

Are we at the point of over-hype now where they don't need to win anything to be the club's greatest ever side!?
 
It is one of those pointless stats that Liverpool fans typically use to feel less shit about themselves. It is totally irrelevant. I think that Spurs won more points than any other team in last 2 years, but they were never competing for the titles that Leicester and Chelsea got. It says all about stats on calendar years.

To the point, I think that Kane is great, but I have Lewa as the best striker in the world. It also needs to be said that Kane is totally unproven in the big stage both for club and country, so it is premature to call him the best. It happens always with English players though and then people wonder why English team is crap.

Its relevant to the extent that over the preceding 12 months he'd scored more goals than other players, many of whom by general consensus most would consider to be better players. It shows he's in good form, it shows that he perhaps deserves more credit that he's getting. It doesn't prove anything, nor am I (or anyone who referred to it) saying that it makes him the second coming - just that it is an interesting statistic. I'm not sure why people are getting so bent out of shape about it.
 
If he goes to Madrid for anywhere near the kind of money people are talking about, he has to guarantee a goal a game for them. Messi and Ronaldo have shifted the playing field in that regard, days of strikers scoring one in two isn't viewed as the norm anymore. I know his record for Spurs is excellent but he's a local lad, and they don't turn on their own when they are going through a dry patch. Not so sure Real fans would give him that leeway if he goes 4 or 5 without scoring. Spurs need to keep him, with the new stadium etc, they have to keep their main goalscorer.
 
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