Harry Kane | Real willing to prepare world-record £200m bid [The Times]

[Sambob]

To be fair, if Sanchez is worth 600 billion or whatever then this is fine.

 

[Needham]

Think we can safely say Madrid won't make it back in shirt sales. Plus, I have a weird feeling he's not going to shine in La Liga. But we are getting closer to the day when a single player pays for a new stadium. Levy should name a stand and a half after him.

 

[Random Task]

You make it sound like the player has no choice in the matter. What if he prefers Real? Woody should say f*ck it and kidnap him?

By kidnap I presume you mean hijack the deal, in which case yes we should kidnap him.

I'm sure Levy will be more susceptible to the idea of losing Kane if offered a Prem proven goal scorer in return - Lukaku + £100 million would certainly give him food for thought.

 

[GlastonSpur]

So your stance is that Levy would never sanction the sale of Kane for £200m cash because it would jeopardise the negotiations of a deal potentially worth £20m per year? That makes no sense.

The aim is £400m over 20 years - citing just one year's worth of money is silly. Levy takes the long view.

Besides, this was merely one of several reasons why selling Kane this summer won't happen.

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

By kidnap I assume you mean hijack the deal, in which case yes we should kidnap him.

I'm sure Levy will be more susceptible to the idea of losing Kane if offered a Prem proven goal scorer in return - Lukaku + £100 million would certainly give him food for thought.

No, I meant kidnap. Again, the player's wishes seem to be irrelevant to you. What if he would rather play for Real?

 

[Random Task]

Who cares what Neymar went for. Spurs won't be interested in "fair" - this is not a game of cricket. Spurs will only be interested in what gives them a massive gain/advantage ... and £200m in the prevailing circumstances doesn't provide that.

I agree.

 

[Rado_N]

The aim is £400m over 20 years - citing just one year's worth of money is silly. Levy takes the long view.

Besides, this was merely one of several reasons why selling Kane this summer won't happen.

On the contrary, thinking of the headline number is what's silly.

Put it this way; if losing Kane had such a detrimental effect on your negotiating position that your huge deal came down to £300m over the same time period that's a cost of £5m per year.

You're saying Levy would reject a £200m cash payment because it could potentially cost £5m a year in a sponsorship deal?

No chance. Not to mention that Kane staying or leaving would not swing a deal that much.

 

[Random Task]

No, I meant kidnap. Again, the player's wishes seem to be irrelevant to you. What if he would rather play for Real?

You seem to be under the impression that a move to Real would be his ideal destination. What led you to believe that?

 

[Patrick220571]

I'm looking forward to a well balanced article from Ballbag on the subject entitled "Money or Poch".

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

You seem to be under the impression that a move to Real would be his ideal destination. What led you to believe that?

Except I didn't say that. I asked you a question which you seem very reluctant to answer. Given that you haven't.

Third time, what if Kane would rather play for Real?

 

[Random Task]

Except I didn't say that. I asked you a question which you seem very reluctant to answer. Given that you haven't.

Third time, what if Kane would rather play for Real?

It's a pointless question, one that neither of us know the answer to.

What if he would prefer a move to Darlington?

 

[macheda14]

Yeah when was that contract signed?

October 2016

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

It's a pointless question, one that neither of us know the answer to.

What if he would prefer a move to Darlington?

Christ.

 

[LilyWhiteSpur]

October 2016

Yeah if that same contract was signed now the release clause would be doubled at least.

 

[GlastonSpur]

On the contrary, thinking of the headline number is what's silly.

Put it this way; if losing Kane had such a detrimental effect on your negotiating position that your huge deal came down to £300m over the same time period that's a cost of £5m per year.

You're saying Levy would reject a £200m cash payment because it could potentially cost £5m a year in a sponsorship deal?

No chance. Not to mention that Kane staying or leaving would not swing a deal that much.

I've already given several other reasons why Kane won't be sold this summer. Besides, £5m x 20 years = £100m. And there are other commercial considerations regarding the new stadium besides naming rights.

 

[Random Task]

Christ.

Explain the logic behind asking someone a question that you do not know the answer to yourself?

 

[Richard Cranium]

I've already given several other reasons why Kane won't be sold this summer. Besides, £5m x 20 years = £100m. And there are other commercial considerations regarding the new stadium besides naming rights.

When that 200 hunna mill email drops in, Kane is gone mate.

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

Explain the logic behind asking someone a question that you do not know the answer to yourself?

I do know the answer, as does everyone else with an IQ above single digits. If Kane would rather play for Real then Woody 'stepping in' will be completely irrelevant.

 

[Massive Spanner]

I've already given several other reasons why Kane won't be sold this summer. Besides, £5m x 20 years = £100m. And there are other commercial considerations regarding the new stadium besides naming rights.

There's one main reason you're forgetting. When Real or Barca (especially Real) want their player and fork out enough money, that's it, maybe not this summer, or next January, but certainly it will happen. This isn't just a Spurs thing, I know if Real came in with 100m for DDG that we'd let him go. Chelsea fans know that if they came in with £150m+ for Hazard they'd let him go. Pool tried their best to stop Barca getting Coutinho but once the price was high enough, they had to let him go, only one window later. The only English club capable of warding Real and Barca off is City because they're just so damn rich that they can let the contract run down or double the player's wages. Utd are arguably at that level too but I'm still not foolish enough to think that some of our players wouldn't prefer to be at Real and that we'd have to eventually let them go.

If Real offer enough money and Kane wants to go there (what top striker wouldn't?) then they'll get him.

 

[Random Task]

I do know the answer, as does everyone else with an IQ above single digits. If Kane would rather play for Real then Woody 'stepping in' will be completely irrelevant.

So you know for absolute certainty that Harry Kane's prefered destination is that of Real Madrid. Prove it.

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

So you know for absolute certainty that Harry Kane's preffered destination is that of Real Madrid. Prove it.

Where did I say Real is his chosen destination? What is wrong with you?

 

[GlastonSpur]

There's one main reason you're forgetting. When Real or Barca (especially Real) want their player and fork out enough money, that's it, maybe not this summer, or next January, but certainly it will happen. This isn't just a Spurs thing, I know if Real came in with 100m for DDG that we'd let him go. Chelsea fans know that if they came in with £150m+ for Hazard they'd let him go. Pool tried their best to stop Barca getting Coutinho but once the price was high enough, they had to let him go, only one window later. The only English club capable of warding Real and Barca off is City because they're just so damn rich that they can let the contract run down or double the player's wages. Utd are arguably at that level too but I'm still not foolish enough to think that some of our players wouldn't prefer to be at Real and that we'd have to eventually let them go.

If Real offer enough money and Kane wants to go there (what top striker wouldn't?) then they'll get him.

I'm not forgetting anything. I'm talking about this summer.

 

[Rado_N]

So you know for absolute certainty that Harry Kane's prefered destination is that of Real Madrid. Prove it.

Mate are you actually reading his posts?

 

[Massive Spanner]

I'm not forgetting anything. I'm talking about this summer.

I mean, they'll still get him this summer if they offer 200m+, but keep thinking what you want.

 

[Random Task]

Mate are you actually reading his posts?

I know what he is tryng to say, what if he would prefer a move to Real rather than United. I find "what if" arguments to be completely pointless because they have no basis for fact.

Neither of us know where Kane wishes to ply his trade after spurs, so what is the point in speculating?

 

[Ban]

No, but most United fans seem to think he is desperate to leave.

I wouldn't say desperate but the lure of playing for Madrid might prove too strong. And who would blame him?

 

[Random Task]

Where did I say Real is his chosen destination? What is wrong with you?

You implied it, in a manner of speaking, either that you're basing an opinion on speculation. Neither of which are favourable.

 

[Massive Spanner]

I know what he is tryng to say, what if he would prefer a move to Real rather than United. I find "what if" arguments to be completely pointless because they have no basis for fact.

Neither of us know where Kane wishes to ply his trade after spurs, so what is the point in speculating?

that's 99% of a fecking forum. Maybe you should just go read the BBC if you only want to deal in cold hard facts.

 

[LilyWhiteSpur]

I wouldn't say desperate but the lure of playing for Madrid might prove too strong. And who would blame him?

I certainly wouldn't, I'm just praying that he feels he needs to stay TBH.

 

[Massive Spanner]

No, but most United fans seem to think he is desperate to leave.

I don't think that's true. personally I'd say if Kane stays in England he probably wants to stay at Spurs, if they pay him enough obviously, but the allure of Madrid is massive for just about every player and I do find it hard to believe that he wouldn't want to go there given the opportunity.

The word "desperate" is way too strong, he's obviously happy at Spurs, but that's not to say he wouldn't go to Real if he got the chance. Coutinho signed a five year contract with Liverpool last season but as soon as Barca came knocking, he desperately wanted out.

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

You implied it, in a manner of speaking, either that you're basing an opinion on speculation. Neither of which are favourable.

I didn't imply anything. I asked you a straight forward question that you refused to answer.

 

[acnumber9]

On the contrary, thinking of the headline number is what's silly.

Put it this way; if losing Kane had such a detrimental effect on your negotiating position that your huge deal came down to £300m over the same time period that's a cost of £5m per year.

You're saying Levy would reject a £200m cash payment because it could potentially cost £5m a year in a sponsorship deal?

No chance. Not to mention that Kane staying or leaving would not swing a deal that much.

£400m over 20 years for stadium naming rights is complete fantasy anyway. It would make it far and away the biggest stadium naming rights in the history of sports.

 

[Rado_N]

£400m over 20 years for stadium naming rights is complete fantasy anyway. It would make it far and away the biggest stadium naming rights in the history of sports.

Yea I'd already made that point to him and reached the point of overlooking it to point out other flaws in his 'logic'.

 

[2mufc0]

Madrid will be spending big this summer, if they really want the likes of Kane and Hazard they will make it happen. And Kane would be stupid to turn down the opportunity, he won't get any further at Spurs.

 

[GlastonSpur]

£400m over 20 years for stadium naming rights is complete fantasy anyway. It would make it far and away the biggest stadium naming rights in the history of sports.

Inflation, inflation, inflation.

Moreover, it will feature Europe's largest single-tier stand, be state-of-the-art, be the newest stadium on the block and unique to boot, with the world's first dividing retractable pitch. How many other club stadiums host both football and NFL football?

 

[Garethw]

On the contrary, thinking of the headline number is what's silly.

Put it this way; if losing Kane had such a detrimental effect on your negotiating position that your huge deal came down to £300m over the same time period that's a cost of £5m per year.

You're saying Levy would reject a £200m cash payment because it could potentially cost £5m a year in a sponsorship deal?

No chance. Not to mention that Kane staying or leaving would not swing a deal that much.

Stop talking sense. You’re interrupting jackanory time.

 

[stepic]

I honestly don’t think that Spurs would sell him for £200m, if he doesnt force the move. It’s not just the money, if Kane goes, it undoes the whole pack of cards. It risks Alli, Eriksen and co all leaving too. Kane is the ace in the pack, he holds this team together. He’s the talisman, the local kid. Levy knows this. He will only sell if Kane’s head is turned and wants to leave.

 

[Random Task]

I didn't imply anything. I asked you a straight forward question that you refused to answer.

You're presistent.

The question was "what if Kane would prefer a move to Real"

You have to first consider how much his personal preference will play a part in precedings. The vast majority of professional footballers will go to the highest bidder, regardless of their personal feelings. We all know that, we don't like to admit it but it is fact nonetheless. He may prefer a move to Real, but are they prepared to offer what United will offer in terms of salary + benefits? Maybe, maybe not.

You have to also consider the effect of losing Kane will have on Spurs. He is practically carrying them right now, their entire tactical system has been generated to favour his goal scoring exploits. Losing him would be hugely detremental to their cause. Now £200 million is a vast sum of money on the face of it, but the loss of Kane makes the money largely irrelevant. Any replacement will be subpar to that which they possess in Kane.

Now a question for you, if you are Spurs, would you prefer £200 million cash or £100 million + a Prem proven goal scorer in Lukaku?

 

[Rado_N]

Inflation, inflation, inflation.

Moreover, it will feature Europe's largest single-tier stand, be state-of-the-art, be the newest stadium on the block and unique to boot, with the world's first dividing retractable pitch. How many other club stadiums host both football and NFL football?

CenturyLink Field and Mercedes-Benz Stadium.

Edit: oh and that shithole in New England.

 

[Varun]

Reading all this stadium talk, you'd think Real play at the local park and not at the Santiago Bernabeu.