Harry Kane | Real willing to prepare world-record £200m bid [The Times]

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balaks said:
I think he does - though only if we continue to build the club and show progress towards winning stuff. If everything is going the right way at the club I honestly can see him staying here his entire career - if it doesn't then he'll be gone within 3 years.
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Doubt it. Players have short careers.

It is very hard to imagine a player who sacrifices a few titles and 100m+ (which will be the difference in wages and image rights) pounds un order to stay at the club he likes. It just makes no sense on any level.

We'll see, I guess. You haven't been here back when Glaston was saying the exact thing for Bale and then that summer, he moved. Tripling wages and going from a club who hasn't win the title in 50 years (and hasn't even compete about it for god knows how long) to the club with the highest chances of winning the big ears and other trophies, while also becoming more famous and marketable should be a very easy choice.
 
Revan said:
The last time Spurs did so. Probably.
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eh. i know we all like to hate on Tottenham because of Glaston but they finished 2nd last season, and pushed Leicester longer than any other team the year before. Everton haven't even finished in the top 4 for years, and West Ham, well, i won't even start on that comparison. we would all take a good 4 or 5 players from Tottenham, and exactly 0 from Everton.
 
septic said:
eh. i know we all like to hate on Tottenham because of Glaston but they finished 2nd last season, and pushed Leicester longer than any other team. Everton haven't even finished in the top 4 for years, and West Ham, well, i won't even start on that comparison.
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We are likely going to finish second this season and push City longer than any other team, but it would be idiotic to say that we are challenging for the title (unless things change).

Spurs were not near Leicester and Chelsea in the last two seasons, and actually finished third the season Leicester wins it. It is like a collective amnesia in Caf, no idea where does it come that they challenged for the title.

If they challenged for the title in any of those two seasons, then so did City in Fergie's last season or us in Arsenal's invincible season.
 
Revan said:
We are likely going to finish second this season and push City longer than any other team, but it would be idiotic to say that we are challenging for the title (unless things change).

Spurs were not near Leicester and Chelsea in the last two seasons, and actually finished third the season Leicester wins it. It is like a collective amnesia in Caf, no idea where does it come that they challenged for the title.

If they challenged for the title in any of those two seasons, then so did City in Fergie's last season or us in Arsenal's invincible season.
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depends what you consider 'challenging'. Spurs were 5 points behind Leicester after 34 games. yes it was Leicester's title to lose from there, but that's still 'challenging' to me.

for me, at the beginning of this season, i had City, us, Chelsea and Tottenham as potential winners -- 'challengers'. whether they were considered 4th out of that group or not, it's borderline semantics.

in any case they don't deserve to be lumped in with fecking Everton and West Ham who have been nowhere near the top of the table so late in a season for about 30 odd years.
 
septic said:
depends what you consider 'challenging'. Spurs were 5 points behind Leicester after 34 games. yes it was Leicester's title to lose from there, but that's still 'challenging' to me.

for me, at the beginning of this season, i had City, us, Chelsea and Tottenham as potential winners -- 'challengers'. whether they were considered 4th out of that group or not, it's borderline semantics.

in any case they don't deserve to be lumped in with fecking Everton and West Ham who have been nowhere near the top of the table so late in a season for about 30 odd years.
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Dont bring logic into it buddy - can't you tell there are grade A WUM's at work here?
 
septic said:
depends what you consider 'challenging'. Spurs were 5 points behind Leicester after 34 games. yes it was Leicester's title to lose from there, but that's still 'challenging' to me.

for me, at the beginning of this season, i had City, us, Chelsea and Tottenham as potential winners -- 'challengers'. whether they were considered 4th out of that group or not, it's borderline semantics.

in any case they don't deserve to be lumped in with fecking Everton and West Ham who have been nowhere near the top of the table so late in a season for about 30 odd years.
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Obviously they aren't in the same category as Everton or West Ham, but they aren't in the same category as United, Chelsea or City despite what Spurs fans might tell you. United in the last 20 months (while being called shit, bad etc) have won more than they have done in the last 20 years or so.

I also don't buy the challenge for title for a team who finishes third, 11 points below the eventual champion. Nope. Liverpoo and Chelsea to a lesser degree challenged for the title in 2014, United challenged for the title in 2010 and 2012. Spurs never did in my lifetime. And it is extremely hard to see them do so in the following years, unless Saudi Arabia buys them.
 
Like I say, I can see a club interested in him, a club capable to acquire players like Mc Manaman, Owen and Beckham.
 
GlastonSpur said:
1) If Levy simply wanted Spurs as a "cash cow" then the club wouldn't have invested not far short of £1 billion in the new stadium complex and new training centre - he and the other shareholders would simply taken huge dividends instead, whereas no dividends at all have been paid in many of the past years.

2) You need to look at net spend over a period of years, not just one particular year. What has Liverpool's net spend been over the last 5 years? And Juve's?

Spurs average annual net spend over the last 5 years has been just 3.2m euros (Liverpool's annual average during this period has been over 10 times higher). So if we net-spend £100m (say) this summer, that would bring our average net spend per year over the last 6 years to just 19.5m euros per year.

If you don't think, with a far lower wage bill than many and with an annual income of £305.6m as of some while ago (it will be more now, and much more next year), that Spurs can't easily afford an average annual net spend of only 19.5m euros, then you are either indulging in pure wishful thinking or fondly imagining that Spurs are some minnow club.

It's entirely reasonable to believe that, following years and years of careful not-spending, the club can easily - and will - splash out in this coming summer's run-up to our new stadium. That doesn't mean we'll spend £100m net every year, but it means we could easily do so this one particular summer.

The underlying point is that to some extent Spurs have 'pre-loaded' their stadium-related austerity - as our wage bill and previous net-spend shows. It doesn't mean that all austerity is over, but it does mean that the levels of future austerity will be lower than some like to think.
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fine. I thought you meant each season to be fair. That was my thinking, that this would be the new spending practice. I still feel Levy will move in the market with an air of caution with regards to spending, as there is little value in the market and Spurs have messed up spending sprees in the past. You also have a number of your top players due for renewal in the next 12-24 months. Levy may need to up those wages massively as these players will be attracting attention from wealthy rivals.
 
Stacks said:
fine. I thought you meant each season to be fair. That was my thinking, that this would be the new spending practice. I still feel Levy will move in the market with an air of caution with regards to spending, as there is little value in the market and Spurs have messed up spending sprees in the past. You also have a number of your top players due for renewal in the next 12-24 months. Levy may need to up those wages massively as these players will be attracting attention from wealthy rivals.
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I agree with you on this - to some extent at least.

And I agree that Levy will move cautiously this summer, but far less cautiously than in recent years. If ever there was a summer for Spurs to splash out somewhat, this summer is it, what with the new stadium and all.
 
J_Red 11 said:
Sounds like the Arsenal's structure when they lost their invincible team and replaced them with those type of players. Young players like Nasri, Song, Flamini, Clincy, Sagna, RVP, Fabregas, Toure, Adebayor and etc. And more experienced but talented but no winning mentality to guide the young ones such as Hleb, Rosicky, Gallas, Arshavin, and etc.

Just make sure be careful not to turn into the new Arsenal who only care about "profit". Having a lot of young talented players with not enough winning mentality to win trophies, players are complaining with lack ambition of the club and they don't want sign a new contract anymore and leave the club.
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Yep Spurs definitely have talent in the club, as have United, but Spurs are missing the Valencia’s, the Carricks, Zlatans, Sanchez, Matic and even Pogba, players who bring winning mentality, leadership and experience and can lead the young talented lads like Rashford, Lingard, Martial, Bailly etc.
 
I can't see Madrid paying 200m for Kane. I think they will sign Icardi for half price.
 
Fer said:
I can't see Madrid paying 200m for Kane. I think they will sign Icardi for half price.
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Perhaps they won't go that high. They could have had Mbappe for £150m or whatever but weren't willing to pay up.
 
If they come in with 200 million bid and significant wages for Kane it's a no brainer. Spurs won't pay his bills when he's 45
 
200M for 25 in July... Let the bidding war begin but the sounding out needs to start now. If for nothing else but to get City and Madridn a spin. Be well worth it! We could offer them Lukaku going the other way in part exchange. Was enough to tempt wenger could it tempt poch maybe?
 
Klopp_De_Klown said:
200M for 25 in July... Let the bidding war begin but the sounding out needs to start now. If for nothing else but to get City and Madridn a spin. Be well worth it! We could offer them Lukaku going the other way in part exchange. Was enough to tempt wenger could it tempt poch maybe?
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Don't see Kane joining anyone in England. When/if he leaves Spurs it won't be for a other PL club.
 
deafepl said:
feck Spurs, if they received £200m from Real Madrid for Kane so they will invest £200m in rebuilding squad to become even stronger. I hope Harry Kane will stay at Spurs rest of his life.
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Another line of lamelas and sisokos
 
whatwha said:
Perhaps they won't go that high. They could have had Mbappe for £150m or whatever but weren't willing to pay up.
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We were very willing to pay the money. We weren't willing to sell bale
 
balaks said:
You can't compare the two.
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Nobody is comparing the two. That's not what's being compared! Just because you perceive things a certain way don't make it any more or less likely to happen. Within reason of course.

And there is nothing to say Kane won't go to an English club only some wishful thinking by Spurs fans and an assumption that Kane won't tell Levy he is going where he wants!
 
Klopp_De_Klown said:
Nobody is comparing the two. That's not what's being compared! Just because you perceive things a certain way don't make it any more or less likely to happen. Within reason of course.

And there is nothing to say Kane won't go to an English club only some wishful thinking by Spurs fans and an assumption that Kane won't tell Levy he is going where he wants!
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No way he's joining us!
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Klopp_De_Klown said:
Nobody is comparing the two. That's not what's being compared! Just because you perceive things a certain way don't make it any more or less likely to happen. Within reason of course.

And there is nothing to say Kane won't go to an English club only some wishful thinking by Spurs fans and an assumption that Kane won't tell Levy he is going where he wants!
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There's no wishful thinking from Spurs' fans. Instead there's a set of very solid reasons why Kane won't be leaving Spurs this summer.

It's you who is engaging is wishful thinking.
 
Kane's shelf life will be short, 3 good years left in him. Real ought to do this now.
 
GlastonSpur said:
There's no wishful thinking from Spurs' fans. Instead there's a set of very solid reasons why Kane won't be leaving Spurs this summer.

It's you who is engaging is wishful thinking.
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Well Gaston, as the lad said himself. Win something if you want to keep me. I suppose you could win the cup. But what spurs timescale and Kanes is could be 2 very different things.

Tell us these "very solid reasons why Kane won't be leaving Spurs this summer"
 
Needham said:
Kane's shelf life will be short, 3 good years left in him. Real ought to do this now.
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Lol ... Kane is 5 years younger than Sanchez and less reliant on pace. The latter is being hailed as a fantastic signing for United, yet according to you Kane will be washed up in 3 years from now :wenger:
 
Klopp_De_Klown said:
Well Gaston, as the lad said himself. Win something if you want to keep me. I suppose you could win the cup. But what spurs timescale and Kanes is could be 2 very different things.

Tell us these "very solid reasons why Kane won't be leaving Spurs this summer"
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I've already given them earlier in this thread and can't be bothered to repeat it all - go back and read through the thread.
 
GlastonSpur said:
Lol ... Kane is 5 years younger than Sanchez and less reliant on pace. The latter is being hailed as a fantastic signing for United, yet according to you Kane will be washed up in 3 years from now :wenger:
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Something of the Rooneys about his physicality. Just a hunch. And I didn't say washed up. I was referring to his use to an undisputed giant of world football like Real Madrid. Then he could go back to Spurs.
 
GlastonSpur said:
I've already given them earlier in this thread and can't be bothered to repeat it all - go back and read through the thread.
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You go back and quote them it's your point, you are trying to make, not mine! If you actually have one. I'm just tearing it asunder!
 
whatwha said:
You're saying RM weren't willing to sell Bale in order to make room for Mbappe?
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It's probably because Bale is still a profitable for them. If I'm not mistaken Bale had agreed to give Real 40% revenue from his own sponsorship.
 
------Pogba -- Ozil
Sanchez----------- Martial
------Lukaku---Kane

Would be lovely front 6.
 
Needham said:
Something of the Rooneys about his physicality. Just a hunch. And I didn't say washed up. I was referring to his use to an undisputed giant of world football like Real Madrid. Then he could go back to Spurs.
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Kane is fitter and more muscular than Rooney at the same age.

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Vilev said:
Football is played across seasons, not calendar years. To count points, goals, etc in calendar years is ludicrous, only a moron would actually do it. Though is don't see how Kane could have scored most goals in calendar year as well. That could only be possible if you don't count some of them for other players.
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Rolling 12 months is one of the best metrics for form.

Id rather compare that for current performance than a year 6 months ago! The period for top performances can sometimes be short, or can quickly evolve for younger players, better to look at current performance. Also as someone else said there are different season timings.
 
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