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Harry Kane | Real willing to prepare world-record £200m bid [The Times]
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Good job they’ll stick to being a feeder club then.
He has mentioned winning trophies as a goal a few times. With the way United and City are shopping, it’s likely they will continue to improve.
It’s going to be tough for anyone with a restricted budget to win trophies.
But let’s talk about the most important thing: FINANCES.
I can see a scenario - not this summer, but you never know - where Real slap down a monster bid and wage packet. We match it.
He probably would be looking at £350k+ a week and hugely increased endorsement opportunities.
I would leave a PL-dominant United side for Hull for that sort of wage differential.
Final point - if a bid is accepted (reluctantly even) by Spurs from Real/City/PSG or us, he will decide where he plays. Levy may not want to sell to so-called rivals but the player will decide where he plays in the end.
If Bale chose United, he would have been here. I think Kane would more than likely choose United over foreign options, but who knows.
It’s going to be tough for anyone with a restricted budget to win trophies.
But let’s talk about the most important thing: FINANCES.
I can see a scenario - not this summer, but you never know - where Real slap down a monster bid and wage packet. We match it.
He probably would be looking at £350k+ a week and hugely increased endorsement opportunities.
I would leave a PL-dominant United side for Hull for that sort of wage differential.
Final point - if a bid is accepted (reluctantly even) by Spurs from Real/City/PSG or us, he will decide where he plays. Levy may not want to sell to so-called rivals but the player will decide where he plays in the end.
If Bale chose United, he would have been here. I think Kane would more than likely choose United over foreign options, but who knows.
I really can’t see United just standing a side and watching as Real moves for him.
I think we would throw our hat in the ring.
If he became determined to leave, he will choose where he goes.
The money, let alone glory, suggests it’s just a matter of time.
He could be the highest paid player in the league. Should be.
I think we would throw our hat in the ring.
If he became determined to leave, he will choose where he goes.
The money, let alone glory, suggests it’s just a matter of time.
He could be the highest paid player in the league. Should be.
Gotta love the way Glaston phrases stuff and people respond seriously. Thing is, the likes of Ronaldo don't fit the "Spurs model" as much as they don't fit the "Millwall model".
You can bet it'd cost us at least £50m more than it would cost Madrid though. Can't see it happening, especially not with Spurs being as competitive as they now are. Selling to rivals is strictly an Arsenal thing.
Spurs generally want a mixture of:
(a) Young players brought up through our academy ranks (and/or young prospects signed from other clubs) that we can develop further - recent-ish examples would include Kane, Winks, Eriksen, Alli, Dier, Walker, Rose, Sanchez, Foyth.
(b) More experienced but talented players aged 26 or younger. Recent-ish examples would include Wanyama, Vertonghen, Alderweireld, Lloris, Dembele.
Of course there can be exceptions to every rule, but that's the general profile. And of course not every signing works out, but many have.
You're right, that Spurs currently can't afford to sign ageing big name players who demand huge wages, but I don't imagine that the club especially wants to ... so, as I've said, that's a happy coincidence. It's not a question of being 'above' such signings, it's just that it doesn't fit with our strategic model.
This strategic model involves first putting in place the off-pitch foundational building blocks for long term viability and success - hence the new training centre and new stadium complex. This in turn has meant, due to the huge investment involved (not far short of £1 billion), keeping a strict rein on our wage structure and a low net transfer spend, but at the same time seeking to remain competitive on the pitch until such time as the increased income from our new stadium (etc) allows for greater investment in players.
All in all, this strategy has worked well so far (IMO). Next season will see the new stadium open, coupled with further work on the surrounding 'complex' (mainly an adjacent hotel and serviced apartments).
We should arrive at this point with a reasonably low debt burden, due to all the years of prior austerity and diverting most of the available spare money into the various building constructions works. And thereafter, we can slowly begin to relax our wage structure and spend more on transfers if needed.
Sounds rather reminiscent of a certain other North London club.
Kane is such a united player! Can we do it? I think we can!
LOL. Put this in the bin with the others. Kane isn't going anywhere. How many pages are wasted on Redcafe linking Kane with other clubs, mainly Madrid?
Maybe not this summer, but give him a year or two without trophies or CL football, and he's on his way.
Sounds like the Arsenal's structure when they lost their invincible team and replaced them with those type of players. Young players like Nasri, Song, Flamini, Clincy, Sagna, RVP, Fabregas, Toure, Adebayor and etc. And more experienced but talented but no winning mentality to guide the young ones such as Hleb, Rosicky, Gallas, Arshavin, and etc.
Just make sure be careful not to turn into the new Arsenal who only care about "profit". Having a lot of young talented players with not enough winning mentality to win trophies, players are complaining with lack ambition of the club and they don't want sign a new contract anymore and leave the club.
Nah, can't see it. He'll stay at Spurs for his career and I'm sure with Kane leading the line Spurs WILL win stuff over the next few seasons.
City's dominance this season won't last forever and there will be opportunities to win the title and trophies for Spurs.
Arsenal have been thinking this for 10 years. Spurs will need to leap frog 2 Manchester clubs (greater spending power), Chelsea (greater spending power), Liverpool. Spurs winning the title will be a miracle.
I wouldn't say it's impossible - very difficult yes but we have the bones of a superb team already. We need to make significant investment to bulk up the squad depth and probably look to one or two new first team players. I believe we will do this in the summer. I'm expecting big contracts to be signed by our most important players and for the club to make some pretty big signings also. Will it be enough? No idea but we have as good a chance as any team in the top 6 imo.
I really don't think you've got the funds to keep your stars happy and expand the squad. I think your best chance is to follow the Barca model of having a handsomely paid core of 18 players and then a fringe made up of bargains and academy lads.
Seasons/years have a way of flying by. Spurs have been on the cusp for 4/5 years now and have nothing to show for it. Big summer for them. If he leaves then they'll be a worse team than Arsenal again but if he stays for another year then they absolutely have to bring in a couple of big players.
Personally I think he'll go this summer. Spurs can't compete financially. He'll get double/treble what he's on at spurs and that can't be turned down
We always new eventually people would start pilffering place from this current Spurs side, to many of their players are on way to low wages when you consider what they would be earning at other clubs.
Plus it becoming obvious Madrid need a rebuild, Ronaldo is finally looking human, Bale looks like injurys and years have taken its toll, Benzema is not what he was, Modric ageing.... they need an overhall and what better player to rebuild round the Harry Kane who currently looks like the best centre forward in world football.
Plus it becoming obvious Madrid need a rebuild, Ronaldo is finally looking human, Bale looks like injurys and years have taken its toll, Benzema is not what he was, Modric ageing.... they need an overhall and what better player to rebuild round the Harry Kane who currently looks like the best centre forward in world football.
I think you will be surprised.
Spurs leapfrogged both Manchester clubs last season when they still had more spending power?
Just because United are above Spurs in the league this season don't think it's a foregone conclusion every season. Spurs will be a force again next season when they are back at WHL.
You could literally say that about your first point.
There is absolutely no way Kane leaves this summer. Don't even waste brain energy predicting it will happen, you are so so wrong. Kane will sign a new even bigger and longer contract, he is going nowhere.
Yes, exactly. Any of the top 6 can finish anywhere on any given season. As we have seen in recent seasons, splashing out hundreds of millions like United have done, does not guarantee you finishing above Spurs, or Chelsea or anyone else.
They won’t be ‘back’ at White Hart Lane though, they’d be in a new ground completely. They could have the exact same issues bedding in as they did at Wembley.
So your post was pointless?
No way we buy Kane while Lukaku is at the club. Doubt we'd spend that kind of money anyway. I'd quite like to see him at Real, think he would do quite well there.
His bigger contract that he could sign at spurs will still be half of what Madrid would give him.
Given the state of Madrid at the moment it hardly seems far fetched that they'll be desperate for a top attacker this summer.
Not saying I definitely think it will happen (we are all just guessing anyway) but I think they'll be spending big money this summer after their lull the last few years and Kane is the obvious target.
To say with such certainty that there is no way he will leave this summer is ridiculous.
There is absolutely zero evidence Spurs will spend in the summer. Where will all this money come from? Champions league football isn't even guaranteed yet. Your board are notoriously tight. You also have Dembele, Vertonghen into the last year of contracts, and can do a Sanchez/Ozil.
Lamela, Son, Erisken, Alderweireld expire 2020. If you miss CL, are these lads definately going to sign? United would love Eriksen/Dembele? Alderweireld (already rebelling)
So the 2 Manchester clubs just spent another 150M - 200m more net. Its cumulative. How are Spurs gonna overtake a United who have just added arguably the best attacker in the league, and will then spend another 150m net on gaps in their squad? you have to be realistic. Its like when Arsenal were trying to compete with Chelsea. They would only manage when Chelsea underperformed. It will be much tougher for SPurs to take points off the manchester clubs with their continued squad building.
Sounds like you are comparing apples to oranges.
Just going by information doing the rounds on Spurs forums - the talk is that with the new stadium (yes i know) the club really want to make a big statement in the summer that they are entering the big leagues. That will mean new contracts and one or two big name signings.
I've heard they're hijacking Chelsea's deal for Ashley Barnes.
200 mil? Lol he is a goner at 120 mil, levi is anything but an idiot.
Not true. There is circumstantial evidence, namely the impending opening of our new stadium and our first season in it. It's reasonable to imagine that Levy will want to make a statement this summer - to mark the stadium's grand opening - by sanctioning significant net-spend investment in the team after years of austerity.
Where will this money come from? That's easy: we have the 11th largest club-income on the planet (soon will be the 10th largest) but have spent almost nothing in net-spent terms for years (diverting it all into the new stadium and new training centre). It's foolish to imagine that Spurs don't now easily have the capacity to net-spend £100m (say) if they want to this summer.
You ask "how are Spurs gonna overtake a United" ... as if it wasn't just this season so far that United are higher up the league table, and as if the last two seasons never happened.
"Willing to prepare"
What's next, "confident of being willing to prepare"?
What's next, "confident of being willing to prepare"?
You didn't win anything in the last two seasons, and what happened in those seasons has no bearing on the composition of the league as it is now, or as it will be next season. If it did, Leicester would be in the top four... because of what happened two seasons ago. Doesn't work like that (obviously). You came second and third. What is there to miss? Spurs never have been, and never will be, a bigger club than United.
You'll finish below us this season, and most likely miss out on top four (between you, Liverpool and Arsenal, definitely not a certainty).
Spurs swap with Ronaldo 
Who the heck cares mate? Surprises happen in football, dynasties never last forever and sometimes they need to build again. The foundation helps a wounded club get back on its feet in a few years, we have a great setup and history of winning trophies. Leicester won the league two years ago, again, a huge surprise - perhaps the biggest one in the history of modern (league) football. Spurs finishing 2-4th a few times (whilst only concentrating on the league mind), winning absolutely nothing is surely decent for them - but time will show how this pans out. Spurs are lacking a winning culture, from the players to the board room, not a single soul knows how to win a title. Pochettino has never listed a trophy as a manager, Kane has never lifted a trophy, it's difficult when the going gets tough. And they will not move back to the WHL next season, they will go to a new stadium that will feel just as new and foreign as Wembley - only much smaller. Tottenham have lost four away games this season, the reason they are not winning anything is that they aren't good enough.
Thinking about thinking about it.
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