Harry Kane | Bayern Munich player

Fair enough. I completely get the aspect of not being able to replace him with someone of equal quality but the fact is you need to move on from Kane at some point and that looks like next summer unless Levy can somehow convince him to spend the rest of his career at Spurs which is unlikely. I think it would be better for Spurs to be proactive and start planning on building a team post Kane than trying to pin all your hopes on trying to convince one player to spend a few more years at the club. That’s just my opinion looking from the outside but I’m not a Spurs fan so you’ll have a better idea.

Im only talking here from Levy’s point of view, not as my own. If Kane wants out, personally I’d sell him now. I’m playing levy’s advocate here.
 
Hilarious, he’s a business man, masquerading as a Spurs fan, but he is not clueless. Look what he has done for himself and ENIC, bought a club for feck all, invested about £40m of ENICS own money and now owns a club worth easily over a billion quid. If that’s clueless to you, from a business perspective, I’m glad I’m not in partnership with you.
Yet, they've won eff all. Hence why I said he should run an accountancy.
 
It does feel he is setting himself up for a massive fall here. It’s such terrible business for Spurs to lose Kane for free next year when they could get £80-£90m now. Can you imagine if he rocks up for Chelsea or Arsenal on opening day 24/25?

As a result, I’m still inclined to feel this is all just posturing. Will be interesting to see if the messages soften over the next few weeks.
It's amazing to me that he's happy to let this cash go for another year going nowhere. Most amazing thing is now Kane has the record, can't even say it's about him getting the record.
 
This is why he is a terrible chairman and so easy to negotiate with. You know exactly what he wants to do (masquerade as a big club) and delay selling his players. Just don't bid for his players and let them run down their contracts. He will then try and get players to sign 6, 7 and 8 year deals but they won't as they know it will ruin their chances of joining a team that actually win things.

I have been of the opinion for a long time that "he is a tough negotiator" is utter rubbish and that he is a detriment to Spurs. Combined with watching him on that Amazon program at Spurs, my conclusion is that he is clueless and overawed.
Levy 'so easy to negotiate with'! :lol: I have heard it all now - this is peak redcafe.
 
So? We got the player and won another league. Who did he replace him with?

People forget that he also negotiates players in as well and just look at Spur's record in the club. I'd say he get's absolutely bent over a barrel

Your missing the point, he is making a fortune out of us, the clubs worth, his salary, he doesn’t care.
 
So? We got the player and won another league. Who did he replace him with?

People forget that he also negotiates players in as well and just look at Spur's record in the club. I'd say he get's absolutely bent over a barrel

Yeah but u said he is easy to deal with, you had to tap, tap, tap then ambush his move to City, and pay a *fine*…. How is that easy to deal with?
 
Very disappointing, but not surprising at all. Well, we can move on.

I worry that we may have a v v tough season if we don't get things done. Havertz may go to Arsenal and we're not even in the conversation for example. He would suit our squad and style, although I'm sure some would have reservations. I wouldn't, because I cannot see us making that 'marquee' signing with the way things are going.

But we need to get some players in. And get some players out!
 
Honestly, look at his transfers in mate. He has to negotiate those as well :lol:

In recent history, bought Carrick for nothing sold him for I think was a record fee, bought Bale, record fee supposedly not accepting a higher bid from you guys, bought Modric, higher fee blocking his move to a Chelsea. Don’t get me wrong he has no interest in winning he just wants to make money and he does that well. None of ENICs or his money is really in us anymore, it’s all in the name of the club…. If it goes South he has lost feck all.
 
what part of "at least let's make an offer and see" don't you understand? Papers saying we just don't want to pay a high price - not Levy refusing to sell...

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/jun/14/manchester-united-pull-out-of-harry-kane-chase-tottenham-transfer#:~:text=Manchester United have ended their,to Old Trafford is unrealistic.
Don't read the guardian, never did, especially when they had their racist chant at our badge. As for making an offer, Kane would have to be agreeable to a move to United. This has never been reported ever even by Davie's Auntie's Taxi driver. Now the conservation clearly changes if behind the scene he tells United he wants to come to us but clearly that hasn't happened. So why would you bid ? for paper talk?. Levy isn't selling so only Kane submitting a transfer request changes the narrative.
 
Don't read the guardian, never did, especially when they had their racist chant at our badge. As for making an offer, Kane would have to be agreeable to a move to United. This has never been reported ever even by Davie's Auntie's Taxi driver. Now the conservation clearly changes if behind the scene he tells United he wants to come to us but clearly that hasn't happened. So why would you bid ? for paper talk?. Levy isn't selling so only Kane submitting a transfer request changes the narrative.

I hate to say it but I don’t think Kane is well informed or individually he isn’t very bright. The hole refusing to come to training last season etc was just a monumental mistake for him. I can’t speak for @balaks but I would have no issue with him asking for a transfer, but his actions last season were just wrong. I think he signed the extension to appease us fans, I’m actually quite interested to see what happens now. No doubt he has a massive loyalty bonus with us, and maybe that’s what his eye is on.
 
Any sort of big game stage perhaps?

If you're speaking about just the final match of a cup itself, has he ever played for a team that wasn't the under-dog?

He's scored a lot of goals in every competition he's been involved. It seems a bit of harsh criticism to me and wouldn't mean I'd think United shouldn't be in for him at the right price.
 
We have money, the club invests money, this idea we don’t is again totally unwarranted, our income has skyrocketed over the last 20 years. Again Levy has no need to sell, Harry has done his time, and we have reaped so much from him. I’m no Levy fan anymore, but trust me he will have done the numbers on this one, it’s the only thing he really excels at.

i mean £100m is better than £0 for any club, it’s just especially so for Spurs when Kane is unlikely to be the difference between making top 4 or not. As I say, Levy only wins if Kane changes his mind and signs a new deal. Otherwise he’s essentially lost £100m for a year rental which most likely won’t get you into the CL anyway
 
In recent history, bought Carrick for nothing sold him for I think was a record fee, bought Bale, record fee supposedly not accepting a higher bid from you guys, bought Modric, higher fee blocking his move to a Chelsea. Don’t get me wrong he has no interest in winning he just wants to make money and he does that well.
I am bored - the state of this lot

Richarlson - 58
Udogie - 18m
Gil - 25
Royal - 25m
Sarr - 17m
Ndombele - 62m
Bergwijn - 30m
Lo Celso (£16m Loan Fee)
Rodon - 12m
Doherty - 16m
Lo Celso - 32m (48m combined)
Sanchez - 42m (in 2017! - over a barrel)
Llorente - 15m
Aurier - 25m (crumbs)
Foyth - 10m
Sissoko - 35m (good lord, Mike Ashley is a good negotiator)
Janssen - 22m
N'Jie - 14m (who?)
Lamela - 30m (physio kept busy)
Soldado - 30m (ultra marksman, Valencia chairman an ace negotiator)
Bentley - 22m
 
I am bored - the state of this lot

Richarlson - 58
Udogie - 18m
Gil - 25
Royal - 25m
Sarr - 17m
Ndombele - 62m
Bergwijn - 30m
Lo Celso (£16m Loan Fee)
Rodon - 12m
Doherty - 16m
Lo Celso - 32m (48m combined)
Sanchez - 42m (in 2017! - over a barrel)
Llorente - 15m
Aurier - 25m (crumbs)
Foyth - 10m
Sissoko - 35m (good lord, Mike Ashley is a good negotiator)
Janssen - 22m
N'Jie - 14m (who?)
Lamela - 30m (physio kept busy)
Soldado - 30m (ultra marksman, Valencia chairman an ace negotiator)
Bentley - 22m

Your still missing the point man, he doesn’t give a shit. It’s easy in hindsight to criticise a bad signing, but most of those names mentioned were accepted well on their performance with thier club. They didn’t work out, hardly at the feet of Levy.
 
Very disappointing, but not surprising at all. Well, we can move on.

I worry that we may have a v v tough season if we don't get things done. Havertz may go to Arsenal and we're not even in the conversation for example. He would suit our squad and style, although I'm sure some would have reservations. I wouldn't, because I cannot see us making that 'marquee' signing with the way things are going.

But we need to get some players in. And get some players out!

Havertz would be an underwhelming signing. There is no need for a marquee signing. I'd be happier with us buying someone nobody's heard of that ETH feels will suit his system.

I was never convinced we'd get Kane this season. Even if they were open to letting him go (which looks unlikely) Spurs would rather sell him to a continental club.

100m for a 30 year old player whose contract is expiring in a year's time is just a brainless move and I'll be glad if United have identified alternative albeit less blockbuster targets.
 
i mean £100m is better than £0 for any club, it’s just especially so for Spurs when Kane is unlikely to be the difference between making top 4 or not. As I say, Levy only wins if Kane changes his mind and signs a new deal. Otherwise he’s essentially lost £100m for a year rental which most likely won’t get you into the CL anyway

Basically exactly this.

If Kane is planning to leave next summer, it makes zero sense for Spurs to not sell him. Trying to replace him with a 100M is a lot easier than trying to replace him with nada.

I can think of only 2 possibilities:

1) Levy genuinely believes he can get Kane to sign an extension

2) Levy will sell him eventually in this window. And these are just negotiating tactics to get as much as he can.
 
Players should be wary of joining Spurs as they clearly see themselves as an 'endgame club' but don't have the trophies or wages to back it up
 
Maguire at your club would actually be a brilliant upgrade.
Outside the scrutiny and pressure he gets here, you'd quickly find he's by far better than who you have already.

I never really disliked Maguire it was just his massive clangers every so often, his general performance level was solid.
 
Not buying Kane is going to come back to bite us on the arse... a guaranteed goal-scorer. even if it was only for two years (and I think there's easily three in him), his goals would give us a chance of challenging for trophies and, presumably after the takeover, they'd be money to replace him

So you would sacrifice getting an Onana/Maignan/Costa to sign him then because clearly we couldn't do both
 
I really want Kane but happy if we bring in two strikers for less than half the proposed fee for him; Thuram and Hojlund for example.

So long as we get our business done early and get the players embedded into the squad and under ETH for pre-season then I would take this as a positive.

Yeah why is there no interest in Thuram,he's free
 
So you would sacrifice getting an Onana/Maignan/Costa to sign him then because clearly we couldn't do both

I would most definitely sacrifice Mason Mount if the choice is paying more money for Kane.
 
So you would sacrifice getting an Onana/Maignan/Costa to sign him then because clearly we couldn't do both
i mean, that depends on what you think our budget is? If it is, say, £150 million, and we are hoping to recoup, say £50 million through the sales of Maguire, McTominay and Martial (maybe more of them too), then we should be able to get both and a midfielder too. I've seen people expressing relief and admiration that we have pulled out of trying to sign Kane so early, but my concern is that it could be more a sign of us having a tiny budget than any kind of sensible, long term approach to our transfer dealings. Also, everyone in the fecking world knew that Levy would be asking for a ridiculous amount of money, why does it seem to have come as a surprise to us?!
 
Havertz would be an underwhelming signing. There is no need for a marquee signing. I'd be happier with us buying someone nobody's heard of that ETH feels will suit his system.

I was never convinced we'd get Kane this season. Even if they were open to letting him go (which looks unlikely) Spurs would rather sell him to a continental club.

100m for a 30 year old player whose contract is expiring in a year's time is just a brainless move and I'll be glad if United have identified alternative albeit less blockbuster targets.

I disagree, Kane is World-Class and will improve (bar maybe Man City) any Club team in the world. Look at the performances of Benzema, Ibra, CR7, Messi etc at 31. RVP joined Utd at 29.