Exactly. I feel pretty damn safe wherever I am in the UK or Western Europe and don't need to have the possibility of popping a cap in yo ass to feel safer.
Why exactly Barros does more diversity lead to more crime and murder?
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Exactly. I feel pretty damn safe wherever I am in the UK or Western Europe and don't need to have the possibility of popping a cap in yo ass to feel safer.
Why exactly Barros does more diversity lead to more crime and murder?
And registered.....
Surely there are some that own but don't claim to. Maybe that's what you're saying.
I'm not sure you could ever gather really accurate stats for illegally owned guns. Or indeed illegally owned anything. People don't tend to be freely accommodating with that kind of information.
Foreigners hate us and came here to pillage, rape and kill.
Something happening in a college at Texas.
Not to change the topic but then where do the numbers for illegal immigrants come from.....
I agree. I'm guessing the numbers for gun ownership go up significantly if you could somehow factor in people who own illegal guns.
True and that is why it is difficult to draw the guns issue in demographic terms. Though I suspect legal gun owners will more likely belong to and support the NRA, but I could be wrong.
You get a membership application with every new gun, even up here!
How many people hunt in the US anyway?
EDIT:
Hunting Statistics
Total number of people over the age of 16 that hunt annually - 12.5 million
Total amount of days spent hunting by U.S. population - 220 million
Total amount of trips spent by U.S. population - 185 million trips
Total amount of money spent on all hunting expenditures - $22.9 billion
Total amount of hunters that pursue big game annually - 10.7 million
Total amount of people that hunted migratory birds - 2.3 million
Total amount of people that hunted other animals (woodchucks, raccoons, ect.) - 1.1 million
Total number of jobs created by the hunting industry - 1 million
Total average amount of money spent hunting by each hunter annually - $2000
Total percentage of male hunters - 91%
Total percentage of hunters between age 35-44 - 25%
Total amount of search result websites on google for results on "hunting" - 16 million
Total searches for "Huting" (top misspelled keyword) each month - 18,100
Total number of gun licenses sold for 2010 season - 621,094
Total percentage of the U.S. that hunts - 7%
Total percent of wildlife areas in the U.S. you can hunt - 60%
Source: Hunting Business Marketing, From the Lodge
(I have no idea how reliable those numbers are, but if they are anywhere near realistic, someone makes a hell of a lot of money from those hunters).
EDIT:
Hunting Statistics
Total number of people over the age of 16 that hunt annually - 12.5 million
Total amount of days spent hunting by U.S. population - 220 million
Total amount of trips spent by U.S. population - 185 million trips
Total amount of money spent on all hunting expenditures - $22.9 billion
Total amount of hunters that pursue big game annually - 10.7 million
Total amount of people that hunted migratory birds - 2.3 million
Total amount of people that hunted other animals (woodchucks, raccoons, ect.) - 1.1 million
Total number of jobs created by the hunting industry - 1 million
Total average amount of money spent hunting by each hunter annually - $2000
Total percentage of male hunters - 91%
Total percentage of hunters between age 35-44 - 25%
Total amount of search result websites on google for results on "hunting" - 16 million
Total searches for "Huting" (top misspelled keyword) each month - 18,100
Total number of gun licenses sold for 2010 season - 621,094
Total percentage of the U.S. that hunts - 7%
Total percent of wildlife areas in the U.S. you can hunt - 60%
Source: Hunting Business Marketing, From the Lodge
(I have no idea how reliable those numbers are, but if they are anywhere near realistic, someone makes a hell of a lot of money from those hunters).
Just because somebody is a hunter it doesn't mean they aren't also a criminal or not to be trusted with guns.
But as I understand it, a hunting license isn't a constitutional right, but a privilege granted from the government. So in theory, as hunting licenses need to be renewed frequently, it should be easy to keep out the idiots.
They're not really renewable. Hunters have to apply each year to get a licence for most activities. Typically, the number of available licences each season is set by individual states based on game population.
They would need a national database to cover all eventualities and even with that, what do they do about foreign hunters?
Hunting licenses are a state issue. The feds don't get involved as far as I know.
Gang crime. LA with the Mexican gangs and Detroit with the black gangs for example, then we have the Russian mafia (which they are getting stronger in LA) the Italian mafia, Columbian mafia, Chinese mafia, etc.
And you believe if they weren't around, there wouldn't be gang-related crime? You think there wouldn't be white organized crime? You sound deluded mate. Especially ironic talking about immigration being a problem in the USA in particular.
nah...only the coloured and black people commit crime....you need to get with it....
I have a scary feeling that some people actually believe that, and it is going to be scary for people like me in this country later on.
That's not what he's saying, and quite frankly I think it's rather pathetic to imply his post was animated by racism. Diversity often causes tribalism (which takes many forms (ethnicity, nationality, religious beliefs)), which in turn very often causes friction that wouldn't otherwise exist (if everyone were of the same skin color, for example, racism obviously wouldn't exist). Surely enough it materializes differently and to different degrees in different places, but still, it shouldn't be a controversial statement. Diversity by its very definition leads to a number of new potential problems.
Making a superficial comparison between London and Alabama by merely pointing to levels of diversity and murder doesn't suffice, because that presupposes that the murder rates would have been the same in both places even if the levels of diversity were lower.
I'm not saying that barros is necessarily making much sense, I'm just saying that he's not necessarily making no sense. Also, I'm drunk, and just felt like writing something. If this doesn't make sense to you, it's probably because you're not.
Making a superficial comparison between London and Alabama by merely pointing to levels of diversity and murder doesn't suffice, because that presupposes that the murder rates would have been the same in both places even if the levels of diversity were lower.
I'm not saying that barros is necessarily making much sense, I'm just saying that he's not necessarily making no sense. Also, I'm drunk, and just felt like writing something. If this doesn't make sense to you, it's probably because you're not.
If everyone were of the same skin colour, people with grievances would probably separate themselves by hair colour, eye colour, height, or any number of other differences.
Them goddamn green eyed muddafeckas!
The sooner we're all molato the better.
that is probabaly all it is. the rest is nonsense.
and barros once in a while accidentally writes something sensible. But that was not one of them.
I think that's a bit of a stretch.
Just because you're not smart enough to understand it doesn't mean it's nonsense.
I'll take that as a compliment coming from a pretentious prick like you.
Fine, but just for the record it was meant as an insult, cockface.
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what barros said is straight out of the the right wing playbook. if there is an issue look for the non-white people to blame. There is zero thinking behind what he said.
but fair enough, you giving him the benefit of the doubt.
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what barros said is straight out of the the right wing playbook. if there is an issue look for the non-white people to blame. There is zero thinking behind what he said.
but fair enough, you giving him the benefit of the doubt.
The last time I checked, Italians were in the Caucasian racial group.
I completely missed the Russians, too...but in fairness to the right, they are all commies anyway.
What they have in common is that in the US they are all immigrant populations. They tend to congregate in the same areas and, unfortunately, some of them will get together and conduct illegal activities as they see this as the best means of making a living.
That being said, every person in the Americas is an immigrant, just that some of us have been here longer than others.
I love barros.A shame he gets so overlooked around here, but I devour every post of him with obsessive compulsion. Probably the only user who I regularly search for the post history to make sure I lose none of it.
I just think it's a flawed reasoning from the start. I think it's pretty well documented that criminality is more connected to wealth (actually to wealth distribution) than ethnicity.
Any large urban area with relative poverty pockets will tend to have more problems stemming from those areas. And in countries with high levels of immigrants, they are more likely to live in the impoverished areas. I think that's all there is to it really.
sensible post.
the immigration issue has been melded into the racial issue...well at least it is an issue for them.
currently immigrants means Hispanics.....and 'illegals' is what they really mean.
interesting that a majority want legal staus eventually for those without papers currently.
It happens with every group that is impoverished, you're right. The US is famous for Irish gangs, too.
Sure, no one wants to see their housekeeper/nanny/gardener/tomato picker etc deported.
A shame he gets so overlooked around here, but I devour every post of him with obsessive compulsion. Probably the only user who I regularly search for the post history to make sure I lose none of it.
I like how the "we have more diversity than you" was sort of a boast, but the "which is why we have more murders" obviously wasn't.
was thinking about how the Irish were treated in the beginning of the 20th century...if you read the Kennedys history and what they fought to be 'accepted'.
To the second point...those jobs are ones no one else wants to do anyway...and the people who are mostly breaking the law to hire them are the same ones who vote GOP.
why not have work permits. if they have no criminal history, then move on to PR status..
Dwayne...since this is the Gun Control thread.
I think you mentioned you do use semi-automatic weapons in Gun Ranges. Are you allowed to have them at home in Canada or must they be kept at the Gun clubs you belong to?
I think you mentioned you do use semi-automatic weapons in Gun Ranges. Are you allowed to have them at home in Canada or must they be kept at the Gun clubs you belong to?
I was more fond of his 3-line essay in the Israeli - Palestinian thread in reply to someone asking for an unbiased documentary about the subject.
Some of them are strictly regulated but all registered firearms must be kept at your home address. Transportation depends on the class, restricted class (handguns and some semi-auto rifles) require authorization from the provincial firearms officer to be transported between your home and an approved range. If it needs repair or you are selling on consignment, you need a seperate authorization to take it tere. If you've bought one you need another authorization to take it home from the place of purchase and so on. We simply are not allowed to tote them around willy-nilly. It's a pain in the arse, varying a bit depending on which province you reside in. In Ontario, you will have difficulty getting the permanent authorization without a range membership.
A lot of people think a requirment to store guns at a range is a good idea but it is not. Although it keeps them in what folks think is a safer place it also maintains a very large and dangerous cache that will not be well guarded, basically a criminal candy shop. For all of our ridiculous gun laws, I'm pleased that Canada did not consider a requirement to store guns where you cannot be responsible for them. One of the most important elements of gun control is a culture of responsibility to your community, it's an important part of the course(s) we take up here to get our licence(s).