If you’ve got the equipment and the bullet components and know how much powder to load, it’s fairly straight forward.
That said, what Nucks says here is the answer to that...
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That said, what Nucks says here is the answer to that...
Like I said before, even one of their own presidents was murdered and another one, Reagan was shot. You won't find anyone more influential than them. The only thing that will force a change is people taking to the streets.
Ahh the old “free healthcare doesn’t work because you die waiting to see a doctor”. You can explain as much as you want and try to fancy up your words, but you’ve given away your viewpoints with this. No point wasting time debating someone that genuinely believes this garbage.
Also how many of the others could be prevented by reforming healthcare. The asshole.
You’ve lost me...
What a bizarre tweet.
Surprised he didn't also say 50,000 people die every day of natural causes to make it sound an even more piddly number in comparison.
Funny enough, there's a series called Hospital in the UK which follows the NHS, and they just so happened to be filming as the attack on Westminster Bridge happened. You get to see the incredibly quick and organized response to a major incident all the way from the top admin down to the medical personnel over the course of the one hour long episode/documentary. All of the victims who made it to hospital alive remained alive, and had full teams waiting for their arrival as they were en route in ambulances. That poster's suggestion is absolutely ridiculous.
It's a ridiculous tweet. The guy's an arsehole.
Surprised he didn't go all out with number of lives lost through miscarriage, stillbirths, cotdeaths, anaphylaxis, death by animals etc.
I’ll have to look that up and see if I can watch it over here. I know my wife would enjoy that.
My experience with the NHS emergency room a few years ago was excellent, for what it’s worth.
True, but it does take some learning. you can easily feck up a bullet a great many ways. Seeing the youtube video of some fecking prick take his hands off with the first shot he aimed at kids at a school would be worth the increase of ammo costs all by itself. Theres also cost. I believe a bullet press is a few hundred bucks. It might not stop those with means, but it would sure put an end to the hopes of any more kids looking to get back at the popular kids at school.
I think what that other poster might be talking about is the wait times to see a GP. https://www.theguardian.com/society...s-at-least-two-weeks-to-see-a-gp-finds-report
My own personal experience is that if I want to see my preferred GP, I have to wait a week. But, I can get an on the day appointment as long as I dont want a specific doctor.
Now, I have had an energncy appoint a few years ago, the thinking being that I had a brain aneurysm. I got sent to hospital straight away and was in a CT machine with in a few hours. A lumbar puncture the next day to be sure. Two actually, as the first guy couldnt do it. Now, it wasnt a brain aneurysm. It was a sex headache. The doc I saw thought it was this, but wanted to be sure so she still sent me for all that stuff and I still got great care. Oh and it didnt cost me anything either either. The only down side is that the sex headaches cleared up a week later, but the headaches from have two lumbar punctures lasted six months.
Its not a prefect system by any means, but I cant imagine what life would be like without it. The NHS is the single greatest thing about living in the Uk.
Sure, we have a similar healthcare system to you here in Canada, I'm aware of all the usual talking points that get thrown the way of 'socialist healthcare'. If the poster was trying to use wait times to see a GP about one's newest ache or sniffle to suggest that had these mass shootings taken place in England that the victim's would have died waiting to be treated, then they're comparing apples to oranges. I was providing an example of an ACTUAL major incident response in the UK to compare oranges to oranges. Both oranges have successful outcomes, one with a lot less debt than the other.
I digress though, this isn't a thread about healthcare. I just couldn't help but mention that example because I had watched the documentary just last night and it's fresh on my mind!
Glad everything checked out for you ok. That poster tried to draw comparisons with their broken healthcare system and failed miserably.
Much less debt indeed. Extended ICU stay costs are unreal.Both oranges have successful outcomes, one with a lot less debt than the other.
Damn medical errors. The Constitution doesn't say anything about the right to medical care does it? Ban doctors!
It genuinely doesn’t surprise me that someone who holds the view that gun control would be too difficult to accomplish is also of the view that the American healthcare system works well. It’s sort of a hive mind with an umbrella of ideas. With these two you can probably predict his views on a lot of other issues
What a load of regurgitated Fox News bollocks.
Also, yes knife crime may be at its highest, but it's mainly gang related or isolated incidents. How many 'Mass stabbings' have taken place? How many multiple deaths have happened at schools, garlic festivals, concerts, cinemas, shopping centres, baseball games or night clubs?
How many nursery and junior school kids have had to endure 'active stabber' training? Or have dedicated websites for anti-stab backpacks?
Don't even try to correlate the two situations. it's just absurd to even try.
And this from a "normal" person I've had dealings with.
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It is deeply concerning that the mass shooting tragedies our nation continues to endure are used as pawns in the political arena. As a conservative republican voter and a Christian, these mass shootings are not democratic nor republican led... they are a result of pure evil and should be treated as such.
Our leaders need to stop blaming one another, the NRA, etc ... and need to unite as one. With the constant attack on God and division amongst our society & our country it is not shocking to see a continued pattern of evil/terrorism afflicting our nation.
I pray and urge all my friends and family to do the same. Take a knee not for people like Kapernick but in prayer to God. Pray for our country..for peace..and for unification under Jesus Christ.
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thanks Pat. So tired of hearing the left blaming the right for these (and vice versa) tragedies and heinous acts. I firmly believe that the complete and almost utter removal of God in today's society feeds the evil that we keep seeing occur.--
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It is deeply concerning that the mass shooting tragedies our nation continues to endure are used as pawns in the political arena. As a conservative republican voter and a Christian, these mass shootings are not democratic nor republican led... they are a result of pure evil and should be treated as such.
Our leaders need to stop blaming one another, the NRA, etc ... and need to unite as one. With the constant attack on God and division amongst our society & our country it is not shocking to see a continued pattern of evil/terrorism afflicting our nation.
I pray and urge all my friends and family to do the same. Take a knee not for people like Kapernick but in prayer to God. Pray for our country..for peace..and for unification under Jesus Christ.
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thanks Pat. So tired of hearing the left blaming the right for these (and vice versa) tragedies and heinous acts. I firmly believe that the complete and almost utter removal of God in today's society feeds the evil that we keep seeing occur.--
Sure, we have a similar healthcare system to you here in Canada, I'm aware of all the usual talking points that get thrown the way of 'socialist healthcare'. If the poster was trying to use wait times to see a GP about one's newest ache or sniffle to suggest that had these mass shootings taken place in England that the victim's would have died waiting to be treated, then they're comparing apples to oranges. I was providing an example of an ACTUAL major incident response in the UK to compare oranges to oranges. Both oranges have successful outcomes, one with a lot less debt than the other.
I digress though, this isn't a thread about healthcare. I just couldn't help but mention that example because I had watched the documentary just last night and it's fresh on my mind!
Thanks. I should have looked a little harder at that poster to be honest. Im too quick to give people the benefit of the doubt, that they may just be confused and not just...ya know.
It’s like we know the same people
All I have to say to that 'normal person' is
Good God.
Good God.
The way that so many Americans constantly try to link things back to god is really disturbing, and I say this as someone who believes in god.
What they really do is dismissing all responsibility for shit like these shootings. Fecking cowards.
How can a nation unify under Jesus? You'd all have to have the same faith or indeed even be spiritually inclined.
Guns are not controllable in the US, far too many of them and too many people who think it's their right to end someone’s life to defend property or possessions, or indeed take a life for them.
If guns cost as much as a medical degree and were as heavily regulated as the practice of medicine, the problem would disappear.
Didn't think even Tyson was such an idiot.
It genuinely doesn’t surprise me that someone who holds the view that gun control would be too difficult to accomplish is also of the view that the American healthcare system works well. It’s sort of a hive mind with an umbrella of ideas. With these two you can probably predict his views on a lot of other issues
The worst thing is that guy said he's actually English (though I'm assuming he lives in the US)?
Whats classed as a mass shooting?
There's no way there's been 249 reported here in the uk.
There must be 100s that dont make worldwide news.
Is there a victim limit before it makes worldwide news?
Crazy
I'm at the point where I hope that it's the President and his family, and all those bastards that run the NRA that become the next victims.
This is how hateful I'm becoming at the sheer injustice of this ridiculous situation... And I don't even live in America. Am I going crazy?
I think it's 3 victims and over, but don't quote me on that.
Though regardless of what the minimum is we only hear about the huge ones, because the smaller ones are so commonplace.
Agree,
That is why I say that Education, social respect (like racism) and tackle inequality are some variables that affects this. I have been living in Vancouver for the last 3 years and is superdiverse and even if there is racism, like anywhere else, I have the sensation that is not at the same level than in some places in USA. Also, more access to education and less inequality. But that is just my opinion
What a jerk (and I always liked the guy). Maybe because all those things are accidents and there is not someone that does i on purpose? Are not cars and circulation regulated to lower the numbers, would you let someone without a license drive? are no medical protocols and training doctors for YEARS to avoid medical errors, wold you like someone without a license practise? are not investment in vaccines and vaccination programs in place to reduce it? No guns no accidental homicides? aren't programs to help those in suicidal situation?
Which, mandatory license, control and regulation exist on firearms?
You can't be a felon
And need to be a citizen
Ah people die from other causes as well? Feck it then, carry on shooting each other.