I think it's fair to say the guy on the church roof was off his fecking nut.
Gun control
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How far from Charleston are you?
About 3 hours northwest on I-26.
Is that just your perception? I went on Trulia and did a home search for North Charleston. They also offer various overlay maps and one of them is crime. The crime rate there seems to be very low.
No, my brother has lived there and his girlfriend still lives in Charleston now.
Like most cities around here, the shootings are all located in very small areas of the city.
North Charleston, however, usually ranks in the top tier in the nation in violent crime. (You sure you’re looking in the right part of Charleston?)
Where is southern charm filmed? South?
I checked all North Charleston through to downtown. They had a ridiculous spike in the first half of 2016 when the murders quadrupled. Did that continue the rest of 2016 and through 2017?
Those socialite types will all be found down near places like old downtown Charleston, Isle of Palms, Mt. Pleasant, etc.
2017 ended up the deadliest year in the city’s history.
hmmmm....Charleston was one the place we intend visiting when we move to Amelia. Maybe I will carry on trips there 
Charleston and North Charleston are more than separate cities, they are like two different worlds.hmmmm....Charleston was one the place we intend visiting when we move to Amelia. Maybe I will carry on trips there
If you come up to Charleston from the South (from Savannah, GA) then you never have to go through North Charleston at all to get there.
It’s alot like what I’ve heard of Chicago, honestly. Some parts are amazing, some are to be avoided at all costs.
I fish for sport, mostly inlake and rivers. Pike, Perch, Trout and so on. I practice catch and release and if the fish gets to injured during I give the catch to friends who like eating fish. I've never brought a fish home for myself.
Though I understand the ethic side of it, fishing is one of my favorite things to unwind with and I can honestly say I treat the fish as gently as I can, Using soft nets, holding it correctly not to injure it more, release it the correct way and so on. You can fish with respect for the animal without eating it.
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No you really can't at all. I think It's disgusting. I'm a hypocrite as I have fished all my life but I fish for food. Everything I catch gets eaten with few exceptions for undersize fish that have to be returned but you can limit that with hook size and baits etc.
Sorry, I cannot understand the point of paying for fishing firstly and secondly wanting to catch then release. I just think it's insanely cruel as some fish can take up to an hour to land. Jeez marlin can take over 12 hours. Decent size fish well over half an hour, and all that time they are stressed and fighting for their life and being pulled somewhere they don't want to go by a metal spike in their lip or elsewhere if fouled. Then they are either kept in a net they cant escape from before being weighed or they are kept ashore to photograph before being returned to have it done over and over again until they die. All for the pleasure of a relaxing sport for humans who have the audacity to say they treat the fish with respect.
That's sadistic and laughable. I know I cause fish sufferring but I kill them instantly to not prolong the sufferring and accept it because it feeds me and my kids or parents and friends. I don't dress it up to be something It's not. It is cruel. You just have to minimise the cruelty and justify it. Just doing it for my own pleasure isn't justifiable in my opinion.
As someone that scuba dives, has volunteered at an aquariums, and been active in the fish keeping hobby for decades the thought of catching a fish on a hook for fun disgusts me.
Respect your opinion and I'm not denying it causes it stress and injury, I've never taken pictures or hung my catch on a scale though. Still think there is different ways to fish though. Hooking on live bait, pulling the fish up by the line, keeping the fish out of the water for longer than necessary. I'm not justifying my cruelty to the fish, just that I personally think there is fishing and fishing.
Oh I agree and I'm at sea now. Proper fishing. As in commercial fishing. Ugh. It's screaming too.
And this is insanely off topic, but happy to discuss it further in another thread if you wish to start one. I respect why you like fishing as it is a real art and skill, just can't respect the reason, although I can just maybe not agree with it if that make sense? Anyway tight lines! And next time drive to the coast and try some angling
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/13/remington-bankruptcy-guns-trump-slump-sales
Just keep Trump in office then?
Just keep Trump in office then?
To be fair the aquarium trade is pretty terrible as well - destructive methods of fish collection, most fish dying before they reach a home tank, shortened life in a tank etc etc.
I agree it can be. I actually volunteered at large aquarium that is heavily involved in conservation. As a hobbyist I try and stick to captive bred and I frag coral as well.
Would kind of coral?
I used to have a small reef aquarium for a time that had no fish. Just live rock and coral. Delbeek and Sprung's The Reef Aquarium was my bible for a semester in Uni
Would kind of coral?
I used to have a small reef aquarium for a time that had no fish. Just live rock and coral. Delbeek and Sprung's The Reef Aquarium was my bible for a semester in Uni
Mainly easy stuff to take care of like Montipora, Acropora and Polyps.
Wait, this is the gun control thread right?
Fair enough, not much point discussing it with Trump in power!There is no gun control. We gave up and changed subject.
After reading a few pages of this thread it seems that you are responsible owner of guns. But, can I ask why you would happily give them up if the law was changed to potentially eradicate gun ownership?
Most of my mates that own guns are staunch, no questions, 2nd amendment gun owners. While responsible, they would definitely not give them up.
If this isn't a sickness, i don't know what is.
Mainly because I don't feel the need to own a gun for safety or because of some outdated amendment. Shooting is simply a hobby to me. I enjoy it very much but if there were no guns I would find a different hobby.
Difference in definitions maybe? For instance the US stats might based on aggravated assaults (the level at which assault becomes a felony) and the definitions for that vary from state to state. Where are you getting your data?
It was off nation master. Not really that bothered if isn't super accurate. My point was violence in the US is not that much difference than violence in any other developed country. American really isn't that violent but guns escalate things to the most devastating levels.
Yep. Although the AR itself isn't the problem. Its easy accessibility to any amount of firearms an aspiring assailant can get his hands on.
I met my wife in 2010. We were talking about this tonight.
6 of the worst shootings have happened in the time we’ve been together.
She is for a complete ban of all guns and was actually complimenting me on how my views have changed since we’ve been together. I pointed out to her all the stuff that’s happened since then.
6 of the worst shootings have happened in the time we’ve been together.
She is for a complete ban of all guns and was actually complimenting me on how my views have changed since we’ve been together. I pointed out to her all the stuff that’s happened since then.
Well, a “security expert” from Israel was just on Ingraham’s show on Fox claiming that the the AR15 is a safer weapon than a pistol for households because is shoots straighter and the bullets don’t stray. She agreed. Then he started blaming the parents of the shooter along with her. All this while she’s got fecking ashes on her head for Ash Wednesday.
Can it get any worse.
That’s absurd. And I have one. That shit will punch through every wall in your house. Fecking propagandist bullshit, but it’s Fox so I shouldn’t be surprised.
Interesting concept. I was under the impression all projectiles came out of a straight barrel kind of straight. A .223 is a relatively small projectile and it is very vulnerable to tumbling, ricocheting and fragmenting. A handgun caliber like 9mm or 40SWis is more likely to stay on the same trajectory as it passes through drywall and flesh.
Best weapon for home defense is a shotgun. No one takes chances when looking down a 12 gauge bore. They are terrifying and absolutely devastating. Even with bird shot one 12 gauge shell delivers as much energy as five 9mm rounds at 15 feet.
And limits the probability of going through drywall with enough energy left to wound on the other side.
Jesus wept
The assault weapon ban expiring in 2004 probably has a lot to do with that. The gun industry took a few years to fully embrace the AR platform. Initially there were really only genuine Colt ARs and they were $2000+. By 2010 there were multiple manufacturers of of AR15s and the prices were under $1000. Today they are dozens of AR manufacturers and prices start in the low $400s.
It will get worse unless the laws are changed. You have to be 21 to buy an handgun yet an 18 year old can by an AR15. The damned things need banning completely.