Barca fans are not happy with Fabregas, if the club tell him they are happy to see him go and if we've got a top manager, it's possible.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
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It's said that this time around Barca would be keen to sell, as is Fabregas to leave. So we seem to have a good shot at him this time around.
I believed the line I read last summer about Fabregras - that the player was open to coming, but not desperate to leave & didnt want to offend the fans. That the club were open to selling but couldn't be seen to be offloading him cheap.
A big offer from us would have sealed it I'm sure. Barca could have called it a deal they couldn't refuse and Fabregas could have left without having forced a move through & his reputation in tact.
Instead we offer £25M for a player they bought for £40M two seasons ago. Top one Woody.
Obviously he´s not going anywhere, but I found it pretty interesting to read a few months ago that despite possibly being the best left back in the world, he hates playing left back
SAF talked about scouting him in his book. We were interested, it wasn´t just smoke
Am I the only one who doesn't really see the point in signing Cesc Fabregas? Won't he just join the battle with Mata, Kagawa and Rooney to play behind the striker?
Fabregas plays deeper. He can play where Fellaini currently plays.
No. We'd just play him where he played for Arsenal until Wilshere came through, in centre midfield. He was and remains very good there, especially in a team that likes direct football like us as opposed to the patient passing tiki taka of Barcelona.
The one that baffles me is Cavani. Totally redundant.
There are some stories from today saying that Mourinho wants Diego Costa this summer but Abramovich wants to bring Cavani instead. Hope Chelsea get him and these rumours about us interested in him end quickly.
Won't this depend a lot on who the new manager is and what he thinks of Fabregas?
Wasn't that the assumption behind last year's madness ? The complication will arise again if Barcelona change managers again this summer and the new man fancies himself to get the best out of Fabregas then gives him a chance on that basis . I think we ought to move on to other players who may not be as good but are less likely to waste our time .
Hehe. Those two fell out last time because Mourinho believes in winning at all costs while Abramovich wants to see his team play in style. If anything summed that difference of opinion up its those two strikers.
How many managers on the planet wouldn't want Cesc? He'd certainly be Van Gaal's type.
I thought Cesc's favourite position was No.10 though. I wonder how willing he is to play in a deeper midfield role these days?
Mark Ogden said that the move has not diminished because RVP has reported that the former Arsenal playmaker wants the move to happen. I still have my doubts but if Barca want to rebuild the team then they could very sell him if a good bid comes in. I'm not so sure how much of say managers have in transfer in Spain mind you.
This summer is going to be the career highlight of many a transfer muppet
We're signing half of Europe
We're signing half of Europe
Be kinda sad if we sign some big playes and Moyes' had been doing the hard graft behind the scenes :s
Yep. The second I see someone at Carrington walking around with an iPad I'm just going to go
Here's an idea. How about we get a bloody midfielder or two who can run the show, eh? How we actually pay up for one, instead of throwing those fecking coins at their clubs expecting a knighthood in return and then some more.
Please?
Please?
I don't think Cavani is any better to look at than Diego Costa. Both are hard-working, neither of them is what you'd call flashy IMO.
You jest, surely?
We already got Big Fellaini
The only show he runs is a circus. I like him, I think has his uses but he's not what I had in mind.
Which means he'll be elbowed in the face within 30 seconds of getting here. He'll deserve it too, the twat.
I could see Barcelona selling Cesc and then signing Rakitic as his replacement tbh.
I'm baffled by the Cavani rumours, which are everywhere. 60m on the only position we are strong in, when in all likelihood the next manager will only play one up top. Fabregas makes sense but is even more far fetched now than it was last summer. We do need more pace in attack but that needs to come from wide positions not up top IMO.
Surely just a smokescreen to let us get on with actual business? It does look like a deliberate leak to the press because they've all got the same story.
Surely just a smokescreen to let us get on with actual business? It does look like a deliberate leak to the press because they've all got the same story.
---------------DDG---------------
-Rafael---Smalling---Jones--RVP
--------------Carvalho-------------
-------Mata-----------Rooney----
---Kagawa----Cavani----Januzaj
-Rafael---Smalling---Jones--RVP
--------------Carvalho-------------
-------Mata-----------Rooney----
---Kagawa----Cavani----Januzaj
Sorry, I meant the new manager of Barcelona. He might really want Fabregas to stay.
RVP?---------------DDG---------------
-Rafael---Smalling---Jones--RVP
--------------Carvalho-------------
-------Mata-----------Rooney----
---Kagawa----Cavani----Januzaj
Actually underrated at tracking back so he can't be any less of a defensive liability than Evra is. He's got a killer left peg too so can easily play LB.
The attitude he has shown in the latter part of season, I doubt that too.
Maybe it's an indication that one of them is leaving? Hernandez going (he's the most likely) with RvP seemingly back into the swing of things injury-wise means we're already down to Welbeck and Rooney, and if Welbeck does leave (and I hope he doesn't)...
Regardless of Hernandez's likely departure, I can't see us having Rooney, Cavani and RVP on our books at the same time. All 200k a week plus, all wanting to play every week at a time we will almost certainly play one up top. Even if Chico and RVP both left I still couldn't see it.
Have watched a lot of Cavani on Napoli and I really disagree. I think he is somewhere between RVP and Rooney level (worse than the first, better than the later). Bit pointless for us considering that we're well stocked there.
Where is Nedved?---------------DDG---------------
-Rafael---Smalling---Jones--RVP
--------------Carvalho-------------
-------Mata-----------Rooney----
---Kagawa----Cavani----Januzaj
He's a proper central midfield for me, or at least used to be. Unless he's lost the ability to play from deep due to playing too many positions, he would be incredible to have in our central midfield. But we'd probably need to play him next to a beast of a midfielder.
He played in a 2 man midfield for most of his Arsenal days. Can only assume he still has the ability to do so.
---------------DDG---------------
-Rafael---Smalling---Jones--RVP
--------------Carvalho-------------
-------Mata-----------Rooney----
---Kagawa----Cavani----Januzaj
RVP
Cavani makes no sense at all.
I also bet he'd massively flop in England. Never looked truly convincing to me despite the goals he scores.
I also bet he'd massively flop in England. Never looked truly convincing to me despite the goals he scores.
Yeah would break my heart if we signed some big name players
Couldn't give a feck about Moyes or what hes done on any potential deals.
Yeah would break my heart if we signed some big name players
Couldn't give a feck about Moyes or what hes done on any potential deals.
Exactly. He's got a £5 million pay-out and a free I-pad out of the deal. He'll be fine.
---------------DDG---------------
-Rafael---Smalling---Jones--RVP
--------------Carvalho-------------
-------Mata-----------Rooney----
---Kagawa----Cavani----Januzaj
You just got me cracking up there. Gave me a good laugh after the day I've hadIt wasn't an assumption, it was denial from a small number of fans who for some reason felt we had no chance and that we just tried to randomly sign some big names. There had to have been something concrete from Fabregas' camp to encourage us to make our move, and I don't think it will be any different this summer. He still gets played all over the park and is not a fan favorite as previously thought. I think he is a valid target if we can't get Kroos. I don't care at all for Carvalho, especially not for the quoted sums, I'd rather splash that money on a world class CB and play Jones at holding midfield in a 433 when needed.
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