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Strictly speaking no, but to put it in context this particular car is 18,500,000 credits.

If you play through all of the events in the game (including licences and missions) you might finish with 4-5m credits.

To earn the extra 13m credits would take you repeating the same race over and over again non-stop for about 20 hours. The only alternative to that is to spend on microtransations which are £16 per 2m credits.

And to compound all of that these cars are deliberately time-limited, so you only get a couple of days to buy them before they are unavailable again for an unknown length of time. Obviously to try and con people into buying them from fomo.

And this is all just for 1 legendary car that you wouldn't even enjoy driving. If you wanted a few legendary cars (and you need 3 particular ones for a trophy) the amount of grinding or mtx required is absurd.

Wow, that's some Ubisoft shit. I can't believe they put this garbage in one of their biggest exclusive games. The feck were they thinking. I mean, they were thinking of money, I know, but still.
 
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Did end up buying this right before all these micro transactions came into the thread. So a bit disappointed now and if I held off a few days would’ve avoided.

Nevertheless it’s a beautiful game. Will just accept I won’t have all the cars because I’m not giving them a penny after the initial unless they offer a great car bundle deal or something.

On the PS store, they charge us £79 for the PS5 edition. It's fairly fecking insane that it's become a complete grind to the point that it's time consuming way beyond normal games to unlock the most attractive cars. The level, and need, for microtransactions is absurd for such an expensive game. it'd almost be obscene even if the game was free of charge.

I'm hoping this will lead to a massive reaction ala Cyberpunk so they'll be forced to refund purchases. Simply completely unacceptable to make this a racing mmo grindfest
 
"At the same time the pricing of cars is an important element that conveys their value and rarity, so I do think it’s important for it to be linked with the real world prices."

We are letting gamers drive cars that are unobtainable by the vast majority of people, but we've made them unobtainable for the vast majority of gamers because it's important for it to be linked with the real world.
 
On the PS store, they charge us £79 for the PS5 edition. It's fairly fecking insane that it's become a complete grind to the point that it's time consuming way beyond normal games to unlock the most attractive cars. The level, and need, for microtransactions is absurd for such an expensive game. it'd almost be obscene even if the game was free of charge.

I'm hoping this will lead to a massive reaction ala Cyberpunk so they'll be forced to refund purchases. Simply completely unacceptable to make this a racing mmo grindfest
Ouch yeh I got for £58 from Amazon. £79 is very premium.

It’s funny but the modern World has ruined gaming. I remember back in the day I had a load of games. No install times. Just put the disk in and play. Now just to play a game it takes hours to download and install even with the disk. Then on top of that I’m only allowed a handful of games installed on my PS5, so I’ve had to delete some older games I’ve not played (and now never will).

Also back then there were no micro transactions. I remember the fun in some games plugging in cheat codes to get all the premium content.
 
"At the same time the pricing of cars is an important element that conveys their value and rarity, so I do think it’s important for it to be linked with the real world prices."

We are letting gamers drive cars that are unobtainable by the vast majority of people, but we've made them unobtainable for the vast majority of gamers because it's important for it to be linked with the real world.

:lol:

Brilliant isn't it. "You wouldn't be able to afford these cars in real life so we've made it so you can't afford them in the virtual world as well, you plebs."

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/...t-metacritic-user-score-of-any-sony-game-ever
 
Ouch yeh I got for £58 from Amazon. £79 is very premium.

It’s funny but the modern World has ruined gaming. I remember back in the day I had a load of games. No install times. Just put the disk in and play. Now just to play a game it takes hours to download and install even with the disk. Then on top of that I’m only allowed a handful of games installed on my PS5, so I’ve had to delete some older games I’ve not played (and now never will).

Also back then there were no micro transactions. I remember the fun in some games plugging in cheat codes to get all the premium content.

They've done an excellent job with getting people so used to micro transaction for useless items that have no impact on games, to then implementing it as a part of gameplay and getting people to pay extra after paying full price because it's suddenly a standard part of games. I mean, if it was about making games more accessible, low initial costs, perhaps choosing between paying full price and get everything or low fee + microtransaction for parts of the game, then by all means. But the level this shit is at is just fecking annoying.

It's the same with the demand to always be online, i remember when they introduced that with Sim City, just fecking bizarre really.

If i was aware that i'd have to fecking grind the game for days just to afford cars in a game, i would've avoided it. Sadly i can only blame myself.
 
Ouch yeh I got for £58 from Amazon. £79 is very premium.

It’s funny but the modern World has ruined gaming. I remember back in the day I had a load of games. No install times. Just put the disk in and play. Now just to play a game it takes hours to download and install even with the disk. Then on top of that I’m only allowed a handful of games installed on my PS5, so I’ve had to delete some older games I’ve not played (and now never will).

Also back then there were no micro transactions. I remember the fun in some games plugging in cheat codes to get all the premium content.

Yes just think about how basic graphically and gameplay wise those games were. Always makes me laugh when people say no brain stuff like this.
 
Yes just think about how basic graphically and gameplay wise those games were. Always makes me laugh when people say no brain stuff like this.

Ehm, graphics and gameplay were basic, compared to now, due to technical limitations and not lack of fecking microtransactions.
 
Anyone got tips for the drift missions? I have gold for everything else but these ones are ruining me. I’m struggling.
 
Ouch yeh I got for £58 from Amazon. £79 is very premium.

It’s funny but the modern World has ruined gaming. I remember back in the day I had a load of games. No install times. Just put the disk in and play. Now just to play a game it takes hours to download and install even with the disk. Then on top of that I’m only allowed a handful of games installed on my PS5, so I’ve had to delete some older games I’ve not played (and now never will).

Also back then there were no micro transactions. I remember the fun in some games plugging in cheat codes to get all the premium content.
The biggest mistake these clowns have made is deviating away from GT Sport which had a perfectly healthy MXT value for the cars. IE they were still expensive and you could grind, or you could pay roughly $3-5 and purchase them early.

The ridiculous thing is, if the clowns had done that in this, nobody would be batting an eyelid to the MXT's. I guarantee they would also be making a shit load more money out of as I probably would have purchased the 917 and the 787B by now. That's $10 they wont get from me now because I refuse to partake in this money exploitation because while I probably can afford it, there's a lot of fans that can't and im not interested in pushing fans away from video games when they've spent $100 on the game already.

They've well and truly fecked it and Im not sure whether its a sick joke, but it needs to be corrected. Nobody will pay what Polyphony are asking except for a handful of users.
 
Yes just think about how basic graphically and gameplay wise those games were. Always makes me laugh when people say no brain stuff like this.
Fanboy alert. :lol:

Assume you spend your mega brain time on forums and Reddit trying to put people down.
 
“If you’re playing as Superman in the new Superman game, I’m afraid you’re not going to be able to fly unless you can fly in real life. It’s important that people understand that while this is a game and is supposed to be a break from reality - flying is really rare and really hard and we think it’s important to convey this to get a truly realistic game”.
 
Well the micro transactions put me off. I was going to fork out for it but feck that. If they want you to buy significant bits of the game separately then the actual game itself has to be free. I'll stick with Forza
 
Whilst I don't support in-game microtransactions, I actually have more fun driving seemingly 'ordinary cars'. Just built a R34 and it has been a joy to race. Somehow the elite hyper/futuristic cars aren't my cup of tea.

The GR Yaris is another beautifully balanced car in the game
 
Whilst I don't support in-game microtransactions, I actually have more fun driving seemingly 'ordinary cars'. Just built a R34 and it has been a joy to race. Somehow the elite hyper/futuristic cars aren't my cup of tea.

The GR Yaris is another beautifully balanced car in the game
I agree and have always felt the same. I even find myself not upgrading certain cars, even their tyres, just to have that extra realism and to experience what each car feels like.

Unfortunately, I feel that this side of the game is way too undervalued by the devs. Within a few minutes, it's possible to be in a GR.4 or better car and also there are barely any instances where you're required to drive, for example; a Golf GTI in standard spec against other, similar, standard cars. For me, there should be more emphasis on gaining experience by competing in National B races before you can even attempt the National A licence and so on. If PD are going to harp on about keeping things realistic, I would much rather they increase the grind / difficulty in ways such as this, rather than the way they have with regards to earnings and the price of cars.
 
I agree and have always felt the same. I even find myself not upgrading certain cars, even their tyres, just to have that extra realism and to experience what each car feels like.

Unfortunately, I feel that this side of the game is way too undervalued by the devs. Within a few minutes, it's possible to be in a GR.4 or better car and also there are barely any instances where you're required to drive, for example; a Golf GTI in standard spec against other, similar, standard cars. For me, there should be more emphasis on gaining experience by competing in National B races before you can even attempt the National A licence and so on. If PD are going to harp on about keeping things realistic, I would much rather they increase the grind / difficulty in ways such as this, rather than the way they have with regards to earnings and the price of cars.

After a week or so with the game, i'm struggling more and more to actually enjoy the game. It's fecking amusing that there's PP limits on quite a few races that involves some of the fastest cars, while quite a lot of the cafe races so far have been no PP limit and i'm blasting past mini's with 1/4th of the engine power and almost lapping them. Considering it's a career mode, there really should've been a focus on making sure the cars are more balanced, it's weird how some of the cafe races are so easy to cheat.

There's so many annoying solutions with missed opportunities. Given their latest update and comments, it's like everything feels like a deliberate act to get people to pay more. Every once in a while you just want to pick between any of the cars in the game and simply drive it, no competition, no other cars, just drive it around and do time trials. Imagine FIFA where you're unable to play online with any teams and players apart from the ones you've unlocked via either grinding for weeks or paying extra, mint.
 
After a week or so with the game, i'm struggling more and more to actually enjoy the game. It's fecking amusing that there's PP limits on quite a few races that involves some of the fastest cars, while quite a lot of the cafe races so far have been no PP limit and i'm blasting past mini's with 1/4th of the engine power and almost lapping them. Considering it's a career mode, there really should've been a focus on making sure the cars are more balanced, it's weird how some of the cafe races are so easy to cheat.

There's so many annoying solutions with missed opportunities. Given their latest update and comments, it's like everything feels like a deliberate act to get people to pay more. Every once in a while you just want to pick between any of the cars in the game and simply drive it, no competition, no other cars, just drive it around and do time trials. Imagine FIFA where you're unable to play online with any teams and players apart from the ones you've unlocked via either grinding for weeks or paying extra, mint.
This has been an issue for ages now, so it's disheartening to read that little to nothing seems to have changed here. Makes me think they just don't care. Of course, a lot of the time in GT, you have no choice but to choose an overpowered car, due to a lack of qualifying and having to start at the back of the pack in 3 lap races.
 
They killed it by not letting you sell cars, this collection thing is beyond stupid. It’s not fecking Pokemon. I have been playing for three days and own about 50 cars which is ridiculous in itself then you realise that you’ve never driven the vast majority of them and never will. There’s some good things about this game but it’s far from the perfect game it was talked up as on the first few pages of this thread. Just give me gt3 with better graphics ffs.
 
They killed it by not letting you sell cars, this collection thing is beyond stupid. It’s not fecking Pokemon. I have been playing for three days and own about 50 cars which is ridiculous in itself then you realise that you’ve never driven the vast majority of them and never will. There’s some good things about this game but it’s far from the perfect game it was talked up as on the first few pages of this thread. Just give me gt3 with better graphics ffs.

I agree. There is a hell of a lot of fun to be had with this game but they make you work to find it.

This week's daily races are great, bop which I think means no tuning, group 3 is at interlagos which is one of my favourite tracks. I'm never going to win a race but I do enjoy starting with no qualifying time and getting up to about 7th or 8th.
 
The lottery ticket thing is a joke as well. 99% of the time you get the worst possible cash prize. I won a Tesla once.

That said the core gameplay, which is the driving, shits on any other racer I've ever played particularly on the ps5 controller. It's just sublime and when you're in a race all that other stuff seems inconsequential.
 
If like me you don't have loads of time to sit and grind it out I find it's fairly enjoyable. I get a few license tests done in 1 sitting if I'm lucky so there is some longevity for me. If however, you've got hours on end or are much better at the game I can see the issue you'd have with it.

Once the cafe books and licenses are done there isn't too much to keep you coming back, especially if you don't like online.

The circuit experiences sound great, but I see them as more of an extension of licenses.

A severely limited lack of championships and standing starts means you'll lose the ability to try out a good chunk of the cars on offer.
Agree completely with this. But as I only get to play a few hours a week and am not very good (struggling to get gold in the B Licence challenges), I absolutely love it. Best driving game I've played since GT3.
 
Was looking forward to this, but all I wanted was to race around a bunch and accumulate a car collection. Sounds like I'll be holding off until hopefully fan backlash makes them rejig the model. I'm not paying extra for individual cars...in my car video game. I already bought the game. If the option is there for people who want to skip ahead, so to speak, that's fine. But if it means that I can't accumulate cars at a reasonable rate while playing the game like a normal human being with a job, I'm out.

I hate this mentality that full price games should also have content essentially gated behind pricing schemes that can only be justified in free to play games.
 
I think the micro transactions thing is ridiculous. Having said that it doesn’t hugely bother me (yet), only because of how I play the game.

Ultimately my aim is to gold as many races missions etc. as possible without having to spend any real money. If I can’t then so be it, I can live with it.

And in the end that’s all so I can buy and properly tune a car I can use for online races. I’m still on the online “offline” parts of the game, so perhaps I’m naively commenting. But if this micro transaction stuff affects my ability to enjoy online, then I’ll be very irritated.

But I fully get why it turns people off the game.
 
Was looking forward to this, but all I wanted was to race around a bunch and accumulate a car collection. Sounds like I'll be holding off until hopefully fan backlash makes them rejig the model. I'm not paying extra for individual cars...in my car video game. I already bought the game. If the option is there for people who want to skip ahead, so to speak, that's fine. But if it means that I can't accumulate cars at a reasonable rate while playing the game like a normal human being with a job, I'm out.

I hate this mentality that full price games should also have content essentially gated behind pricing schemes that can only be justified in free to play games.

Even worse is the stuff with legendary cars that are available for a short amount of time, where you either fork out the cash for enough points or you grind for almost a full day in order to afford it. Bizarre stuff.

It’s a shame they didn’t just go for the full experience, everyone pays for the game but only a small % is actually allowed to play the game to reflect how difficult it is to become a professional driver, for the vast majority it’s just a black screen with credits
 
Agree completely with this. But as I only get to play a few hours a week and am not very good (struggling to get gold in the B Licence challenges), I absolutely love it. Best driving game I've played since GT3.
Haha about the same as me then. Few hours a week and not very good! But love the game.
 
Haha about the same as me then. Few hours a week and not very good! But love the game.
Seems like the best way to enjoy the game. I'm still loving it so far, and most of the negatives haven't affected me yet.
 
Even worse is the stuff with legendary cars that are available for a short amount of time, where you either fork out the cash for enough points or you grind for almost a full day in order to afford it. Bizarre stuff.

It’s a shame they didn’t just go for the full experience, everyone pays for the game but only a small % is actually allowed to play the game to reflect how difficult it is to become a professional driver, for the vast majority it’s just a black screen with credits

:lol:

Good lord.
 
I agree and have always felt the same. I even find myself not upgrading certain cars, even their tyres, just to have that extra realism and to experience what each car feels like.

Unfortunately, I feel that this side of the game is way too undervalued by the devs. Within a few minutes, it's possible to be in a GR.4 or better car and also there are barely any instances where you're required to drive, for example; a Golf GTI in standard spec against other, similar, standard cars. For me, there should be more emphasis on gaining experience by competing in National B races before you can even attempt the National A licence and so on. If PD are going to harp on about keeping things realistic, I would much rather they increase the grind / difficulty in ways such as this, rather than the way they have with regards to earnings and the price of cars.
Yeh i definitely think you should need a particular level of experience before being allowed to progress to the next set of licenses. But other than that I can't say im hugely bothered about the micro transactions, i almost come to expect it after years of dealing with them in one form another.

Im literally on S10 now trying to finish the Gold in every objective challenge. So i might find from now on it may become a problem, but im definitely enjoying the game. The PS5 controller really does add to the whole gaming experience aswell, as corny as it sounds. The haptic feedback is amazing.
 
:lol:

Good lord.

like the McLaren F1 for 18 something mill credits in a very limited period. Engine ruined? New one costs 9,2 mill :lol: which is like 10 hours of grinding credits

want to buy the credits for the car, thats £179. For the engine?£90

absolute dickheads, all of them
 
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I just blasted through gold on all the special licences and then got to S-10. fecking hell. Definitely not one I can do on low brain power. I only managed to complete one lap and did a 2:27. Only a second off and I know I can do it, it’s just being able to do it. I either feck up at the very start or the very end, maximum concentration needed.
 
I just blasted through gold on all the special licences and then got to S-10. fecking hell. Definitely not one I can do on low brain power. I only managed to complete one lap and did a 2:27. Only a second off and I know I can do it, it’s just being able to do it. I either feck up at the very start or the very end, maximum concentration needed.

I just tried that tonight after revisiting licences for the first time since the fixed the rally tyres.

I managed to complete the lap once and I think I was at 2:29 :lol: