Well when that footballer is Souness it is fairly probable that whatever Jordan said was right, the average 5 year old could talk rings around that old mysoginist about football or anything else you care to discuss. He is a thick as shite caveman trading on his reputation when he was a fecking dreadful manager and an even worse pundit.
Graeme Sourness | Retires from “punditry”
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Well when that footballer is Souness it is fairly probable that whatever Jordan said was right, the average 5 year old could talk rings around that old mysoginist about football or anything else you care to discuss. He is a thick as shite caveman trading on his reputation when he was a fecking dreadful manager and an even worse pundit.
He was a wonderful player and he won more in management than most have ever won at the top level. Certainly not a guy to be discounted.
Don’t bother
Eh Souness is right in this video...
Souness weirdly hating on the Italian manager
Amen.
Funny, I was going to write exactly the opposite. He’s like one of those manager’s that never understands that there are different ways to manage and succeed, or one of those players who never gets that there are different roles on the pitch, with different tasks, and different ways to performe a role. He sounds to me like he’s really good at simplifying a complex picture so as to be an efficient DM in the 80’s, a dubious coach in the 90’s and a useless analytic in this millenium.
Ahh shit, here we go again…. 
He is an agenda driven fool.
A simple truth. No idea why people in this thread are bending over backwards to advocate for one or the other, they're both clearly morons.
What's really frustrating about all of the media narrative is the assumption that we begged Ronaldo to stay in the summer. We clearly would have let him go had any club wanted him, but any club that Ronaldo wanted to move to were insisting that we pay most of his wages. I'd expect Souness to not understand that, but Jordan should have mentioned it.
And in fairness, love him or hate him, but Graeme's "I never knew what the bench felt like" line was a real mike-drop moment.
And in fairness, love him or hate him, but Graeme's "I never knew what the bench felt like" line was a real mike-drop moment.
There was a hell of a lot speculation dressed up as fact from Souness on Monday when he was blabbering on about what was and wasn't said to Ronaldo by ETH. Maybe ETH has maintained all along, if you want to go, find yourself a new club and we will cut our losses, if not then you will play by my rules.
Chanced upon Souness talking about the Ronaldo situation last night whilst looking to kill a few minutes, it was a YouTube video from earlier in the day I think. He went on and on about how ETH was to blame and was fabricating this entire conversation where ETH supposedly convinced Ronaldo not to leave in the summer by promising him game time and had to talk Ronaldo around after Ronaldo had demanded a transfer. I just cannot understand why pundits get a free pass for being so utterly ignorant of the facts they are commenting on. The most casual football fans are well aware that he stayed because nobody wanted him and despite it being obvious he wanted to leave he made a point of never actually asking for a move. If you cannot do even the most basic homework you should not be taking money for running your mouth.
Painful to listen to, just constant over the top semantic interruptions.
I get possibly the need to be a bit confrontational but this is Talk Sport Asylum.
I get possibly the need to be a bit confrontational but this is Talk Sport Asylum.
Why do people feel compelled to take a side in any disagreement, even one bewteen two obvious idiots on a platform designed to irk to get a reaction?
What’s your issue with the way Jordan Peterson talks?
Does Souness remember what he says? He is absolute lost in his own bullshit.
A question for the ages.
He's the Simon Jordan of Psychology init?
There aren’t enough languages or words to express how painfully stupid that man is. He’s a constant word salad spouting ghoul. He always sounds like he’s making some breathtaking new hot take. But his beginning, middles and ends are completely divorced from each other. His conclusions live in fantasy land and only dumb people seem to get conned by him. Make of that what you will.
He has exceptional cadence, a good vocabulary, he’s engaging, and looks like a compelling speaker. But it’s just absolute nonsense. Nothing he says stands up to any kind of scrutiny and small minded men that genuinely need a role model, should put his picture up on the fridge as indication of how to do everything wrong.
Ghastly human being.
I couldn't agree more with this.
I just watched that and had the same thoughts. The whole basis for his argument was an invention of his own mind. Its pretty outrageous seeing as no club was genuinely in for Ronaldo so neither ten Hag nor anyone else at the club would have needed to persuade him to stay or make any promises at all.
Suggesting Ronaldo wanted to leave due to a lack of game time was odd as well seeing as he was first choice last season so I've no idea what he was basing that on. If Jordan had anything about him he would have shown Souness up a lot more for talking nonsense. I strongly suspect the no one will remember ten Hag in 5 years line will come back to bite him in the ass.
Half decent at Rangers and shite everywhere else. He was not a good manager.
Todays game is a different sport
That’s a shocking attempt of a back track if ever I’ve seen one!
How embarrassing. His agenda against us has been clear for years but he's willing to make himself look increasingly clueless in his attempts to force it. Clearly doesn't really watch our games.
What, do you think Souness starts off from a position of some credibility and authority? He was a colossally incompetent manager, with the track record to prove it. And generally delivers further nourishment to the perception almost every time he opens his mouth. He is not someone whose opinion or judgment I have any respect for whatsoever.
Battle of the twats
At this point, he is being used by the show and the presenter and he doesn’t even realise it.
Talksport is a radio station that is tabloid through and through in nature. They make money and gain attention by making these contrarian opinions to get the gullible demographic to call or text in. If they knew they could make a years worth of revenue in one day by saying Hitler did nothing wrong and opening the phone lines, they’d absolutely do it.
Jordan is doing a decent job of taking the piss out of him there to be fair about the backtracking from previous remarks
I always have respect and listen to people who actually have played football and it is nothing negative to also have been successfull. Like Souness. I don't need to agree with them or him but I do take their input in serious way.
So glad we've got 6'4 Maguire next to him who has never lost an aerial duel in his life because he's so fecking massive.
It's not a question of disagreement. It's a question of having credibility as a thinking person, because that's what a commentator is. Of which he has none.
And Souness has not been successful, as anything other than as a player. In fact, he has been a spectacular failure.
We are also talking about players. Not just being manager. And as a player, he was brilliant. That is why his opinion gives me more than someone who never been a player. Even if I listen to them aswell.