Gonzalo Higuain

Just an argument with a friend, he doesn't rate Higuain at all while I'd say he's top 3 in the world of strikers.
 
I like him but top 3? Hmmm I dunno about that.

I don't watch loads of Spanish football so have probably only seen Higuain a total of about 20 times for Madrid and Argentina combined and he's a good player but I find he can be a bit wasteful of possesion and chances at times.
 
He's brilliant and could well rise to the heights you are talking about but he's not top 3 in the world yet, no.
 
Arsenal are one of a number of clubs said to be interested in Real Madrid striker Gonzalo Higuain.

The Spanish giants are reportedly set to sell the Argentine for a cut-price £15 million after he spent four months out of action this season with a back injury.

Higuain’s injury led to Real boss Jose Mourinho to recruit Manchester City striker Emmanuel Adebayor on a loan deal but having despatched Adebayor back to Eastlands following Higuain’s recovery it is surprising that he has chosen to sell the 23-year-old.

Despite his long lay-off Higuain still scored 13 goals in 25 games for Real to maintain the one goal in two games ratio he has managed since arriving from Argentine side River Plate in 2007.

Arsenal are said to be interested in Higuain at £15 million, however, the Daily Mail reports that they will face competition from Spurs and Manchester City while Spanish newspaper Marca reports that Serie A side Juventus are interested in securing Higuain’s signature.
 
£15m?! Madrid are fecking retarded!

Considering we won't be after him I hope to god he goes to Italy.
 
15 million is a bargain!

For that price we'd be fools not to bid for him. Fully fit he'd easily make the first team for United.
 
£15m?! Madrid are fecking retarded!

Considering we won't be after him I hope to god he goes to Italy.

Why shouldn't be go for him at that price? We've already let 2 of their top players slip through our fingers while we went to homeless shelters looking for value. 15 million is half of what you expect a world class striker to go for these days.

Unless he's got a serious injury problem there is simply no way we should not make a bid for him at that price. My question is how much truth is there to the rumor that Real want him out?

I personally can't believe they will let him leave for that price...
 
Why shouldn't be go for him at that price? We've already let 2 of their top players slip through our fingers while we went to homeless shelters looking for value. 15 million is half of what you expect a world class striker to go for these days.

Unless he's got a serious injury problem there is simply no way we should not make a bid for him at that price. My question is how much truth is there to the rumor that Real want him out?

I personally can't believe they will let him leave for that price...

or to Mexico..
 
or to Mexico..

No debating we struck gold in Mexico. But that doesn't change the fact we were asleep at the wheel when VdV and Sneijder were sold. Both players were available at a snip.
 
Why shouldn't be go for him at that price? We've already let 2 of their top players slip through our fingers while we went to homeless shelters looking for value. 15 million is half of what you expect a world class striker to go for these days.

Unless he's got a serious injury problem there is simply no way we should not make a bid for him at that price. My question is how much truth is there to the rumor that Real want him out?

I personally can't believe they will let him leave for that price...

I didn't say we shouldn't, I said we won't, big difference.
 
No debating we struck gold in Mexico. But that doesn't change the fact we were asleep at the wheel when VdV and Sneijder were sold. Both players were available at a snip.

Aye we should've got Sneijder, but I think the fact that none of the big clubs except for Inter took a punt on him suggests to me that nobody predicted that he'll have such a great career after being sold by Real. I don't even remember many on the Caf asking for us to sign him which should tell you something.

I'm not too fussed about VdV's signing tbh, he wouldn't have fitted into our side.
 
Let's take Higuain and Kaka off them. I still reckon SAF could bring 2 or 3 years out of Kaka at Old Trafford.
 
That 15m figure is puzzling - they might sell him, particularly if they're going for Aguero but I can't see that valuation. Juventus are supposed to be the people who've been pressing Madrid about him so maybe there's some other deal lined up as well.

It's difficult to know how he'll play next year. He missed 5 months, he'd been in pain from the injury before that. A year ago I'd have said he's very good in the final 25 yards, and he's particularly good at picking up a ball around the edge of a box and stepping in to shoot. Yet, he's bafflingly average in the rest of the game, which doesn't sound that good a match for Arsenal. Only 23 though, so it's not as if he's finished developing.
 
Aye we should've got Sneijder, but I think the fact that none of the big clubs except for Inter took a punt on him suggests to me that nobody predicted that he'll have such a great career after being sold by Real. I don't even remember many on the Caf asking for us to sign him which should tell you something.

I'm not too fussed about VdV's signing tbh, he wouldn't have fitted into our side.

As opposed to the legions of caftards asking SAF to sign Hernandez, Bebe, Obertan and Diouf?

I want to believe we at least looked at his and VdV as potential targets because it's been an area we have been lacking in. I want to believe they wanted more playing time then SAF was willing to commit because no matter how you cut it, if value was what we were after then it's far less riskier to buy a madrid reject for 10-15 million then to take a punt of 5-8 million on a complete unknown.
 
As opposed to the legions of caftards asking SAF to sign Hernandez, Bebe, Obertan and Diouf?

I want to believe we at least looked at his and VdV as potential targets because it's been an area we have been lacking in. I want to believe they wanted more playing time then SAF was willing to commit because no matter how you cut it, if value was what we were after then it's far less riskier to buy a madrid reject for 10-15 million then to take a punt of 5-8 million on a complete unknown.

Ridiculous comparison, Sneijder was high profile whilst nobody knew of all the players you mentioned.

Btw do you even what position VdV play in, we haven't been lacking in that position.
 
there are rumours of Benzema for twice the amount, I know who I would prefer. Can't see Madrid selling for that price though.
 
Ridiculous comparison, Sneijder was high profile whilst nobody knew of all the players you mentioned.

Btw do you even what position VdV play in, we haven't been lacking in that position.

VdV plays in the hole for spurs (as a second striker), but he also played deeper in the Xabi position when he was with Real. You do know that right? Or did you think he's only capable of playing one position?
 
Why do people buy into this that Madrid want to sell Higuain and they'd do it for 15m?:wenger:
 
VdV plays in the hole for spurs (as a second striker), but he also played deeper in the Xabi position when he was with Real. You do know that right? Or did you think he's only capable of playing one position?

I can't believe that. I've seen him play quite a lot of times for Spurs and Holland, and I don't think he has that type of game which can suit a deep lying playmaker position. Truth to be told, I don't see Madrid that much so I don't really know if he plays in that position or not.

If anyone else confirms your that VdV indeed played in that position, then fair enough I'll accept that he should've been signed.
 
I can't believe that. I've seen him play quite a lot of times for Spurs and Holland, and I don't think he has that type of game which can suit a deep lying playmaker position. Truth to be told, I don't see Madrid that much so I don't really know if he plays in that position or not.

If anyone else confirms your that VdV indeed played in that position, then fair enough I'll accept that he should've been signed.

It's true to an extent, I don't think he ever played as a deep-lying midfielder for Madrid nor as a player in a two-man midfield but from January onwards in his last season there he excelled playing in a three-man midfield with surprisingly energetic and combative performances, he did his fair share of work then.
 
It's true to an extent, I don't think he ever played as a deep-lying midfielder for Madrid nor as a player in a two-man midfield but from January onwards in his last season there he excelled playing in a three-man midfield with surprisingly energetic and combative performances, he did his fair share of work then.

Thanks for that. Still don't think he would've been that good for us, since his best position is behind the main striker and we've already got Wayne Rooney for that.
 
I don't think Pipita is the most talented player you'll ever see.

I also question his big game mentality.

He doesn't have many facets to his game but one thing he's nearly untouchable at is scoring goals.

It's just that in todays football to make it at big clubs strikers are expected to more than just score goals and have real ability to influence the game.

but he's young, very young.

I remember back in 2006 he was playing like Bebe which shows how far he's come along.
 
Thanks for that. Still don't think he would've been that good for us, since his best position is behind the main striker and we've already got Wayne Rooney for that.

He can play in Giggs position as well. Are you actually telling me you think VdV who has been a natural midfielder all his life can't do the job a 37 year old converted winger is doing? That's ridiculous...

VdV could have walked onto our team and immediately added quality and depth to the squad. The only reason for not signing him as far I know is that SAF thought Scholes / Giggs could share the burden and then Carrick / Fletcher / Hargreaves (as we all believed he'd be back last year) / Anderson and Gibson would make it difficult for VdV to get enough games.

But you look at his ability and there is no question he brings a unique skill set to the midfield. How many of our midfielders can give you the 10 goals a season that he can?

VdV would have been a great signing for us, if nothing else then because he went for dirt cheap. A few million pounds more then Bebe. heh...talk about value.
 
It's easy when you play as a 2nd striker almost in Spurs set up.
Scholes got 20 goals in his position in 02/03.
 
His wages must be as cheap as Bebe's too I bet. Value indeed.
We should have dropped one of Rooney/Hernandez/Berba to play him. Or we could always shove him out wide. Brilliant idea. Now what do we do with those wingers we have hmm?
 
It's easy when you play as a 2nd striker almost in Spurs set up.
Scholes got 20 goals in his position in 02/03.

Ok. So what? We all know Scholes is a legend and at the time he was the best midfielder on the planet. What's your point?
 
That those goal scoring stuff ain't that impressive when you play as a 2nd striker/in the hole whatever that is.
 
His wages must be as cheap as Bebe's too I bet. Value indeed.
We should have dropped one of Rooney/Hernandez/Berba to play him. Or we could always shove him out wide. Brilliant idea. Now what do we do with those wingers we have hmm?

Nobody knew how quickly Hernandez was going to adapt to the English game at that time and Rooney had already indicated before the world cup that he was thinking of leaving the club. So yeah, it might have been a good idea to get a backup.

What with football being a squad game and all.