So, the 20 goals Scholes scored wasn't impressive?
Well done. You've just proved how big of a muppet you are. Do yourself a favor and stop typing.
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So, the 20 goals Scholes scored wasn't impressive?
Well done. You've just proved how big of a muppet you are. Do yourself a favor and stop typing.
Scholes, Gibson, Anderson, Carrick, Fletcher, Hargreaves(injured tho)
Valencia, Nani, Giggs, Park.. Cleverley
Rooney, Berbatov, Hernandez, Owen.. Welbeck, Macheda
13 minus those out on loan fighting for 6 position. How many do we need?
You keep on harping those 10+ goals, but have he done it playing in the middle of midfield?
What he's saying is that VDV scoring 13 goals as a second striker isn't all that amazingly impressive, what Scholes did was top drawer not what VDV did, and that he would have struggled to replicate that level of scoring from a deeper midfield position. And that's obviously true as you can see a number of his goals come directly from playing off Crouch, being the only player in the box alongside him).
I do question his consistency and his influence at times, and his best position is behind the striker, so I don't really think we missed out on him. I think Higuain's a better player and potentially top class in his position, I think VDV failed to establish himself as that.
I do question his consistency and his influence at times, and his best position is behind the striker, so I don't really think we missed out on him. I think Higuain's a better player and potentially top class in his position, I think VDV failed to establish himself as that.
Wan is making an incredibly obvious point, ignored by the usual suspects.
Boss mentioned VdV as a midfielder who can get you 10 goals/season. He's not. Not at Spurs anyway. He's a support striker who can get you 10 goals/season. Which isn't bad but it's considerably less impressive than a proper central midfielder achieving the same feat.
Boss mentioned VdV as a midfielder who can get you 10 goals/season. He's not. Not at Spurs anyway. He's a support striker who can get you 10 goals/season. Which isn't bad but it's considerably less impressive than a proper central midfielder achieving the same feat.
goals from midfield are overrated. sure we were blessed with scholes' career, but i'd rather have 3 forwards/strikers who have top movement and interchange and each that have the ability to get you 30.
Otherwise we'd all be wanting tim fecking cahill.
Otherwise we'd all be wanting tim fecking cahill.
This
Sigh.
Why don't you answer the point instead? It's a good point. Ignore the usual suspect bit, that's not what's important in that post.
We could definitely do with more goals from central midfield. It's more important that whoever we do sign is a good midfielder but we'd be a better side if we were less reliant on our wingers/strikers to get all our goals. All the best sides have central midfielders that get a share of the goals.
Because petty little jibes aren't necessary.
It's a good point actually and makes complete sense. Wasn't worded very well though.
Barca's current midfield is not known for their goal scoring prowess. Yet its the best on the planet.
I don't think Barca are particularly prolific from midfield, though. Or maybe they are...I just can't remember Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets or Keita weighing in with a lot of goals.
Either way, I don't think it's a necessity for a team to have goal-scoring midfielders. Once the forwards are doing their job then that should be enough.
feck you, Red Indian Chief!
I hardly make any serious football-related posts, and when I do some gimp has to step in and steal my thunder. I hope you're happy.
I hardly make any serious football-related posts, and when I do some gimp has to step in and steal my thunder. I hope you're happy.
I think Xavi and Iniesta have got a good few this season. It's not an absolute necessity (we've done well enough without one these last few years) but it's definitely a good string to have to your bow (if a football team could ever somehow share a bow)
EDIT: just checked. 14 between them. That's definitely not "a good few". My bad.
VdV will do very well to replicate the kind of form that 37yr Converted Winger has shown in the last two-three months.
On a completely unrelated note, why are so fecking obsessed about this Value thing anyways?
Bebe's signing didn't affect VDV's non-arrival, so why is the obsession of bringing Bebe into this. I also remember how you made sarcastic comments about value when Hernandez was signed, how has that turned out?
Xavi has 5 and Iniesta 9 for this season.
On the subject of Higuain, if £15M is all Real are asking for I imagine he'll have his pick of just about every top club in the 3 main leagues.
On the subject of Higuain, if £15M is all Real are asking for I imagine he'll have his pick of just about every top club in the 3 main leagues.
£15 million for Higuain? If that's really on the table, and he wouldn't mind coming to us, we should pounce.
I remember a couple of years ago every spacker in the newbie forum slagging off Carrick (our defensive midfielder) for not scoring enough goals, and I produced a list of every central midfielder playing for a big European club and very few had scored more than Carrick. You could probably do the same this season for Anderson.
Centre-mids aren't there to score goals, especially these days.
First of all I don't think they will let Higuain go. And even if they do, they won't be selling him for just £15m.
Sorry mate
I have a feeling he could be Spurs bound.
Real won't want to sell him to any of the European rival clubs. That rules us, Chelsea/Arsenal out.
Spurs are desperate for a decent striker and with their recent VDV transfer, they have dealt with Real before. Would be a decent move for him too, 1st team football, plenty of supply from a decent midfield. It's whether he'd be willing to take a step down into the Europa League.
Real won't want to sell him to any of the European rival clubs. That rules us, Chelsea/Arsenal out.
Spurs are desperate for a decent striker and with their recent VDV transfer, they have dealt with Real before. Would be a decent move for him too, 1st team football, plenty of supply from a decent midfield. It's whether he'd be willing to take a step down into the Europa League.
He would be a great signing for Tottenham, but would he really move to a club that doesn't compete for trophies after years as a first team player at Real Madrid? I think there is more of a chance of him moving to a team like Bayern, Milan, even Juventus than Tottenham who will simply offer him nothing. The are a decent team for someone who wants to make his name and then move to a truly top club, like Bale, Modric or Berbatov before, but Higuain already got a name that guarantees him the interest of all top sides.
What makes you think Higuain will settle for Spurs? Also Real will not give a feck who they sell their players to as long as they get the money they are asking for or even considerable less..
Robben - Bayern
Sneijder - Inter
The end point is Real want to get rid of their players.. Like I have said many times over.. Real Madrid are not a football club they are a Circus..
P.S I do not believe Real Madrid want to get rid of Higuain.. If they do then they only further prove my point of how they are a complete fecking joke of a football club!
Mourinho says, "Higuain and Benzema are not for sale. We all agree."
So unless Higuain is looking for a move then it's a non-story.
So unless Higuain is looking for a move then it's a non-story.
Xavi 50 apps 5 goals
Iniesta 50 apps 9 goals
Busquest 46 apps 1 goals
146 apps 15 goals
Carrick 43 apps 0 goals
Ryan Giggs 38 apps 4 goals
Scholes 32 apps 1 goal
Anderson 30 apps 4 goals
143 apps 9 goals
A few more goals from midfield won't go amiss.
Modric 42 apps 4 goals
Sneijder 38 apps 7 goals
Fabregas 35 apps 9 goals
I don't really see what Barcelona's midfield have to do with anything in all honesty, they're a completely different beast altogether, not to mention the fact they have Lionel Messi. We are not as good as Barcelona, nor do we play the same way as them. Nor do we have Lionel Messi. We need more of a threat from midfield, which is pretty limp for a team of our stature, in all honesty.
Real Madrid coach Jose Mourinho says Karim Benzema and Gonzalo Higuain will remain at the Spanish club despite transfer speculation, as the Portuguese coach expects the young strikers to help the team build "a new era in European football."
Mourinho broke a self-imposed, monthlong silence in a radio interview with Cadena Ser late Thursday night to defend his actions during the ill-tempered Champions League semifinal against Barcelona, which led to UEFA giving him a five-match ban.
Mourinho has taken the case to CAS because "I've been sanctioned without knowing why."
After winning a power struggle with Jorge Valdano, who was fired as managing director, Mourinho adds that "I won't have any more power ... I'll be the coach and nothing more."
Well that seems to be that then.
Mourinho broke a self-imposed, monthlong silence in a radio interview with Cadena Ser late Thursday night to defend his actions during the ill-tempered Champions League semifinal against Barcelona, which led to UEFA giving him a five-match ban.
Mourinho has taken the case to CAS because "I've been sanctioned without knowing why."
After winning a power struggle with Jorge Valdano, who was fired as managing director, Mourinho adds that "I won't have any more power ... I'll be the coach and nothing more."
Well that seems to be that then.
Woke up with a different perception of talent.
Do go on....!
Seriously though.
Super serial, I actually thought I explained it when I said he's a sensational goal scorer but in the current climate strikers are expected to have alot more facets to their game where Higuain lacks some serial strings to his bow.
but seriously Decetron what done you agree with?
but seriously Decetron what done you agree with?
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