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That is why I am surprised they sold Pavard. They kinda need a RCB/RB now. Mazraoui/Laimer at RB and 3 CBs are not ideal.

Kimmich as a RB would principally make so much sense with the new "fullbacks become CMs in the build up" trend for both Bayern and especially Germany. Also with Guerreiro on the left now.
 
So now it's official, Union Berlin signs Bonucci. It's still weird that he says that this gives him the opportunity to keep playing on the highest level and you have to realize that he is simply telling the truth, considering that they will meet Real Madrid soon.
 


Looking forward to seeing Tuchel antagonize his bosses after every bad performance now.



Terzic benching Bundesliga's golden boot holder just to show dominance.
 
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Looking forward to seeing Tuchel antagonize his bosses after every bad performance now.

He already complained about the Stanisic loan as well (and/or the Pavard transfer - in fact, just one of those would have been ok for him, not both)
 
Deserved for Heidenheim btw. This team is a shambles.
 
So whether this pen was deserved or not, had Terzic not subbed, Heidenheim would not have gotten the pen.
 
Is it already time for the annual "Dortmund lack mentality" discussion?
 
Dortmund not managing to sign Bella Kotchup when they have only 3 CBs but signing Fullkrug when they have 2 strikers is just peak mismanagement.

Bayern also selling Pavard, and loaning his like for like replacement in the squad, scrambling to find a defender but not managing to.

Just horrible management from both teams that can but bite then very soon.
 
Can anybody explain? I don't get it
Basically the VAR decision was crap and Terzic gave them a little more time to think about it. Then they actually had some balls to re-reverse their decision and give the pen, but apparently they thought it would be too embarrassing to send off a player that had already been subbed, so they just gave the yellow (which is probably correct since you're not supposed to doubly penalize and I didn't think the foul itself was too bad). I'm genuinely curious whether Dortmund would have had to play on with 10 or 11 men if Haller had been sent off. Is there some sort of timeshift function in football?
 
Looking forward to seeing Tuchel antagonize his bosses after every bad performance now.

And he got a fair point. It's just plain stupidity to drag on important transfers til the last day or even hour.
On the other hand he was a key member of the transfer task force, so he has to blame himself too.
 
Basically the VAR decision was crap and Terzic gave them a little more time to think about it. Then they actually had some balls to re-reverse their decision and give the pen, but apparently they thought it would be too embarrassing to send off a player that had already been subbed, so they just gave the yellow (which is probably correct since you're not supposed to doubly penalize and I didn't think the foul itself was too bad). I'm genuinely curious whether Dortmund would have had to play on with 10 or 11 men if Haller had been sent off. Is there some sort of timeshift function in football?

Ah, so it was something rule related but rather that the reconsidered during the sub? Bit stupid but I'd say that's more on the ref than on Terzic.

Regarding the red card, my gut feeling says they would have to send Füllkrug back on the bench because it would not be fair otherwise. If I'm not mistaken, there was a similar situation in the first VAR season (think it even was a Leverkusen game) in which one team scored a goal but it was taken back because in the build up to it, the team commited a penalty worthy foul so a 1:0 lead was turned into a 0:1. But I'm really not sure.

Anyway, I think there are some VAR related weaknesses in the rules like these as is. Imagine a defender keeping a ball in play and iniating a counter that leads to a goal. Them the VAR decides that the ball was out, nullifies the goal and gives a corner that then leads to a goal. You would have scored after VAR gave you a corner but corners are generally not seen as potentially game deciding situations.
 
Is it already time for the annual "Dortmund lack mentality" discussion?

Whatever happened before I'd expect the team to rally after the ref announced a humongous stoppage time. Instead they choked away fairly simple passes and offered Heidenheim counter attack after counter attack on a silver platter. I think there has to be a psychological component to that. Something just isn't right with the squad's heads. Against Bochum they made a ton of unnecessary mistakes, too.

And he got a fair point. It's just plain stupidity to drag on important transfers til the last day or even hour.
On the other hand he was a key member of the transfer task force, so he has to blame himself too.

I don't think Tuchel doesn't have reason to be annoyed, but in the past he's shown a special mixture of being whiny and lacking diplomacy that got him into hot water.
 
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Whatever happened before I'd expect the team to rally after the ref announced a humongous stoppage time. Instead they choked away fairly simple passes and offered Heidenheim counter attack after counter attack on a silver platter. I think there has to be a psychological component to that. Something just isn't right with the squad's heads. Against Bochum they made a ton of unnecessary mistakes, too.



I don't think Tuchel doesn't have reason to be annoyed, but in the past he's shown a special mixture of being whiny and lacking diplomacy that got him into hot water.

But maybe it has to do with the tactical instructions? Dortmund's transfer business indicates that they want to play direct and physical football. They try get into dangerous areas very quickly and such passes have a higher risk of being intercepted.

Psychological component or not, to me it is not explicable how players can continuously make passing decisions like that without the blessing or at least the indifference of the coach. I mean, you are leading 2:0 against a promoted team but not only keep losing the ball to their press, you also offer huge spaces inbehind everytime you do and also fail to find the spaces they leave open themselves while pressing you? Despite having some of the fastest players the league has seen and a huge target player upfront?

I'm not trying to bash Terzic, I like him, but that smells like tactical problems to me.
 
So now it's official, Union Berlin signs Bonucci. It's still weird that he says that this gives him the opportunity to keep playing on the highest level and you have to realize that he is simply telling the truth, considering that they will meet Real Madrid soon.

Union signed Robin Gosens aswell, that's a top signing considering how well he did in similar environment at Atalanta.

What's the views on Gross getting a maiden call to Germany squad at 32?
 
Union signed Robin Gosens aswell, that's a top signing considering how well he did in similar environment at Atalanta.

What's the views on Gross getting a maiden call to Germany squad at 32?
And Kevin Volland as well, they really added CL experience to their squad. But my post wasn't focused on the transfer as such but that I am still adjusting to the fact that Union Berlin now represents the highest level there is and signed him to play against Real. And it feels inevitable that they will win in the Bernabeu because Kevin fecking Behrens will score there :lol:

Pretty indifferent about Groß, he can't be much worse than whatever was fielded recently, but also he obviously won't be the big future of the NT.
 
Honestly think any mentality discussion is nonsense. The team is either not strong enough or hasn't found its rhythm yet. Or the tactics aren't up to scratch. I always feel like the mentality discussion is a bit of a cop out when you can't properly analyze the real underlying issues. Kind regards to Loddar.
 
Union signed Robin Gosens aswell, that's a top signing considering how well he did in similar environment at Atalanta.

What's the views on Gross getting a maiden call to Germany squad at 32?

I think the environment is quite different, actually. Atalanta is a very proactive team while Union at least until now is a very negative one (and the first impressions indicate that this hasn't changed). Playing Bonucci means that you have to stick to this style as he can't defend in a high line anymore. So Union might actually closer to Inter than Atalanta. For many of the players, it'll be the first time in such a defensive team.


Honestly think any mentality discussion is nonsense. The team is either not strong enough or hasn't found its rhythm yet. Or the tactics aren't up to scratch. I always feel like the mentality discussion is a bit of a cop out when you can't properly analyze the real underlying issues. Kind regards to Loddar.

Fully agree
 
It is a bit worrisome for BVB. Bochum and Heidenheim aren‘t exactly tier 1 opponents.
 
Magdeburg and Hertha are aiming for a 6:6 draw, aren't they?
 
You will be hard pressed to find a more entertaining match :lol:
 
At least Schalke are trying to cheer me up.
 
Boniface is very good but thats pretty ordinary defending
 
Stuttgart gonna be a yoyo team this season? hmmhm
 
Excited to see Müller and Kane teaming up. Gladbach will probably rain on my parade though, as they usually do.
 
Bayern/Tuchel way of dillydallying with the ball from left to right and right to left is a regression for this team.

Although last few years was borderline suicidal playing, but playing horizontally suits the players we have, especially the lateral players.
 
Gladbach look the better team, considering how awful they were against Leverkusen last week that's a big jump in performance
 
Gladbach look the better team, considering how awful they were against Leverkusen last week that's a big jump in performance

Nothing new once they face us. Think last time we won in their stadium was 2019, and in all comps if we don't win today it will be 6 games since our last win vs gladbach home and away.
 
Fecking Gladbach. Watch them go belly up after this match at the very next occasion.
 
By now this is pretty comical that Bayern seem so thoroughly unable to get results against Gladbach. Still expect them to comfortably finish them off in the second half.
 
By now this is pretty comical that Bayern seem so thoroughly unable to get results against Gladbach. Still expect them to comfortably finish them off in the second half.

That makes one of us. I'm not superstitious, but these last years vs gladbach especially have made me wonder if they have some kind of witchdoctor in their staff.
 
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