Laimer is fecking rapid. Frimpong is one of the fastest players out there, and Laimer staying with him easily, twice now.
German Football 2024/25
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) review both the Everton and Bodø/Glimt victories at Old Trafford. Listen to the guys discuss 2 wins and 7 goals in the last week, analyse of the Amorim formation, focus on Amad and how he is playing, and also take a look at Hojlund, Rashford & Zirkzee – who starts v Arsenal?
Clear red for Neuer. Tapsoba also on thin ice.
When I saw Bayern’s front four of Sane, Olise, Coman and Musiala, as a neutral I was quite excited at what we might be about to watch. Somewhat tempered by the ridiculously negative line up Leverkusen have put out, but still some excitement nonetheless.
Well Neuer ruined that inside about 20 minutes. fecking tosser.
Edit: Frimpong had to score there.
Edit 2: Every time I watch Kim, he looks absolutely fecking dreadful. His positioning and decision making looks slow and amateurish. German football is quite rapid, to say the least, and he doesn’t seem adept at quick decision making, or reading the game. United were heavily linked before he joined Bayern, and it looks like a bullet dodged every time I watch him.
Well Neuer ruined that inside about 20 minutes. fecking tosser.
Edit: Frimpong had to score there.
Edit 2: Every time I watch Kim, he looks absolutely fecking dreadful. His positioning and decision making looks slow and amateurish. German football is quite rapid, to say the least, and he doesn’t seem adept at quick decision making, or reading the game. United were heavily linked before he joined Bayern, and it looks like a bullet dodged every time I watch him.
Peretz did very well there
Man we shcould lead despite everything.
Phew what a game.
I admit that I may see the Neuer scene through Bayern glasses but imo a yellow card would have been okay in that situation (no ball control by Frimpong, 2 fast defenders around him, it wasn't 100% clear he would get to the ball first).
But i'm really happy with how we played so far.
We are still the better team with the better chances.
I admit that I may see the Neuer scene through Bayern glasses but imo a yellow card would have been okay in that situation (no ball control by Frimpong, 2 fast defenders around him, it wasn't 100% clear he would get to the ball first).
But i'm really happy with how we played so far.
We are still the better team with the better chances.
Mate, as a fellow Bayer supporter, that is a clear red. It is also incredibly stupid by Neuer.
I haven’t really watched Leverkusen this season: is Tapsoah always a cnut?
The commentator is on my side though
Red isnt wrong but I stand by my opinion that a yellow card would have been okay.
Das wars...
Too easy.
So it ends... Bayern loses due to Neuer's stupid foul, was very good otherwise.
Yep, quiet the self-inflicted loss. I am disappointed in Leverkusen cowardly approach, but a win is a win. They didn't play like a contender for the Buli title though.
Just had a nice dinner with friends. Afterwards some went on the balcony for a smoke, I cleaned up and joined them a bit later.
One friend then asked if she should do the dishes, I just yelled "MANUEL NEUER" and she smiled. She knew they were washed.
One friend then asked if she should do the dishes, I just yelled "MANUEL NEUER" and she smiled. She knew they were washed.
Ah yes. German humour.
It's stolen from the Yanks!
0/10.
It's way older than that, already been done two years ago with Klay.
We were the better team with ten man. Horrible mistake by Kim to break the offside... And of course the red card by Neuer.
On another note though, is anything left of the hype of Olise? Not sure if he really makes our team better at the top level that we want...
On another note though, is anything left of the hype of Olise? Not sure if he really makes our team better at the top level that we want...
I don't think we would have won without the sending off of Neuer and it didn't look like we had one player more on the pitch at all. That was a huge, huge win.
Wait, you guys were arguing Neuer's red card? And on the basis of dogso? 
He got sent off for being a dangerous lunatic, not dogso. Ffs.
He got sent off for being a dangerous lunatic, not dogso. Ffs.
German goalies and being a dangerous lunatic, name a more iconic duo.Wait, you guys were arguing Neuer's red card? And on the basis of dogso?
He got sent off for being a dangerous lunatic, not dogso. Ffs.
"you guys" was one person.Wait, you guys were arguing Neuer's red card? And on the basis of dogso?
He got sent off for being a dangerous lunatic, not dogso. Ffs.
Yea overall it was a disappointing game. Not a lot of quality on the pitch, the Neuer red card obviously made it more difficult for Bayern but Leverkusen didn't push them as much as I thought they would considering they had a man advantage.
Why though? Bayern doesn‘t score as much anymore - without Kane even moreso - and are always prone getting badly hurt on a counter (as was the case with Neuer this time as well). Sure, Musiala can unpack a worldy every now and then but he was a non-factor this game without an out and out striker up front.
It was strange. Leverkusen were setup to not lose the game (which was disappointing compared to last year's Leverkusen) and then didn't even change their approach when Neuer was sent off.
They conceded like 1 goal in their last 8 matches...
How much did they score though?
The Paris fame needed a huge blunder of their keeper to get one in and still plenty of dangerous counter plays for PSG (fecked up).
Bayer had the same problem that they lacked a real striker (Boniface injured, Schick not fit to start and even when he was subbed on, he had to be subbed off after a few minutes again). So that evens out Kane missing. And looking at how the first 20 minutes went Bayern just looked like a much better team and continued to look that way even after the red card.
Bayer just didn't look able to continuously endanger Bayern on the counter. In the end it worked out and I think they deserved it, but they heavily profited from that red card.
We were missing Boniface, Hofmann, Adli and Terrier (who was in the squad again but is not at 100% due to his injury he just recovered from). Which offensive players should Xabi have played? He played Frimpong and Grimaldo basically as wingers and only left out Schick to at least have something to bring on from the bench. The squad is incredibly thin right now and considering that, I think the approach and gameplan worked.
Sure, but to say without the red card they would have most probably lost is too negative imho. Bayern are defensively not as sound and rely mostly on Musiala and Kane to make something happen up front. Now with Pavlovic back it should get better I‘d think though (depending how long Kane is missing).
I don't disagree on your assessment of Bayern, but I think you view Leverkusen to positive at the moment. They are far worse than last season and only slowly appear to get their shit together again now (but still as @ForEverEleven just mentioned they have a lot of injuries).
Not watched much of Bayern this season apart from a few CL games but I remember there was some real excitement earlier on in the season with Kompany.
What do Bayern fans think of Kompany? Is he someone that is tactically good enough to win a CL for them? I assume that is a big target for them.
What do Bayern fans think of Kompany? Is he someone that is tactically good enough to win a CL for them? I assume that is a big target for them.
Nah, we‘re on the same page. Of course Leverkusen isn‘t nearly as good as last time but they are still a very solid side with a couple of players who van always produce something good.
Edit: what I‘m saying is basically: stay focused and defensively compact and chances are good Bayern won‘t score and you get 1-3 very good chances on the counter at least. Bayer is totally capable of this so a tight win or going to pens against this Bayern side isn‘t far fetched with or without a red card. Not saying it‘s a given obviously.
I really like him and I’m very optimistic, that he can deliver when it matters most. He changed our style for the better and the team seems to buy into his approach.
It might take a while until we take that important step back into the spheres of real dominance we were accustomed to a few years ago, as our squad is still lacking and somewhat dysfunctionally assembled. But I’m more than willing to give him plenty of time. I wasn’t as optimistic about a coaches tenure after half a season, since the time of Pep.
Mindy you, it’s still early. But I like what I’m seeing.
But why? So far Bayern are more of a flat track bully and fail to win any match against tough opposition. Maybe the win against PSG counts as such, but looking at Barca, Villa, Leverkusen (twice), Frankfurt Dortmund we see a pattern of playing good but not winning the big matches. Which already lost you one title yesterday. That's so far the total opposite of delivering when it matters most.
Fair enough, what would you say are his targets for this season?
Assuming the league is one of them, would you say the CL is a target or a good run in the CL?
He hasn't shown much in the bigger games, which is what he will be judged on no doubt.
Would you be happy then with a league title and say quarter final of CL ?
Sure. But we are playing well, are often unlucky and key players were missing lately. I am confident that we will start winning some games like yesterday soon.
But mostly, we’re playing our best football in years and are able to play it even when the opposition is good.
League title and a good run in the CL should be enough. It is for me, at least. Most important for me, however, is that our style improves and that’s clearly the case.
The "usual" goals for Bayern, I'd say: league title and at least quarter final in the CL.
I think Kompany massively improved Bayern's defense but they desperately need the injured defenders (Ito, Stanisic, Boey) to come back. Kim and Upa are playing every single game and that is not sustainable.
Edit: missed your last sentence.