Geovany Quenda - Summer 2025

As a club I would do extensive scouting before spending 50mil on a 17yo in not one of the strongest leagues in the world and the main link to us is our new coach used to coach him.
Do you know that our best ever coach never had to raid his previous team whom where brilliant in their own right to eventually find success in England.
Your cynicism is misplaced. Quenda is a quality talent. We'd be lucky to have him.
 
So we are going to pay 50mil on a 17yo from the Portuguese league while we are supposed to be taking a frugal approach when it comes to transfers?
What a load of absolute shite!!
He’s a star for Sporting who have won titles recently and is considered a special talent too. I’d be delighted with that fee given how good he looks. We will be frugal but that doesn’t mean were going to stop 50m signings especially when it’s the right profile for the system and someone very very gifted.
 
As a club I would do extensive scouting before spending 50mil on a 17yo in not one of the strongest leagues in the world and the main link to us is our new coach used to coach him.
Do you know that our best ever coach never had to raid his previous team whom where brilliant in their own right to eventually find success in England.
I've watched the kid twice and he looks special. You're just using the fact he played for Amorim to have something to complain about.

I agree he is young but we have a versatile squad and need to build for the future with young, quick skillful players.
 
Your cynicism is misplaced. Quenda is a quality talent. We'd be lucky to have him.
You call it cynicism?
We had a LB not so long ago that most on here (that could judge a footballer) realised would not be up to it in the Premier League but lo and behold he is playing for Benfica and suddenly we should get him back based on what he is doing now which I think is ridiculous but at least he would be cheap :lol:
 
I kinda get the cynicism over this one, but anyone who has actually watched this kid a few times will see how talented he clearly is. You can throw the "crap league" narrative in there but some of his performances in Europe were excellent too, and he's tailor made for a vital role in Amorim's formation.
 
You call it cynicism?
We had a LB not so long ago that most on here (that could judge a footballer) realised would not be up to it in the Premier League but lo and behold he is playing for Benfica and suddenly we should get him back based on what he is doing now which I think is ridiculous but at least he would be cheap :lol:
Geezer, watch him. Until you see him you can't by so cynical.
 
My point is I would not be spending big money on a 17yo LWB from a weak league

That 'weak league' provided us with 1 of the 4 balon d'or winners in our club's history. The only balon d'or winner we had throughout the entire SAF's reign ie the most successful period in our club's history. He also happens to have won more CLs and more balon d'ors then our club had won in its entire history.
 
As a club I would do extensive scouting before spending 50mil on a 17yo in not one of the strongest leagues in the world and the main link to us is our new coach used to coach him.
Do you know that our best ever coach never had to raid his previous team whom where brilliant in their own right to eventually find success in England.
You're dead right, he might turn out like that other 17 year old flop we bought from Sporting LIsbon a few years ago.
 
You call it cynicism?
We had a LB not so long ago that most on here (that could judge a footballer) realised would not be up to it in the Premier League but lo and behold he is playing for Benfica and suddenly we should get him back based on what he is doing now which I think is ridiculous but at least he would be cheap :lol:
Of course it's cynicism. Your point is a little weak as it appears to live and die by 'this chap can't me much cop because our previous manager tried to sign a player from his former club too and he didn't set the world alight either'.

Come on mate.
 
My point is I would not be spending big money on a 17yo LWB from a weak league
You don't even know what position he plays and we're supposed to take you seriously? You have obviously never watched him play, there's no reason for a United fan not to be excited over this transfer. We're buying one of the most talented teenagers in football for a very decent fee. Go to footballia.net, watch his performance against City earlier in the season and tell us what you honestly think.
 
This transfer seems obvious. We would have Quenda, Dalot, Dorgu, and Diego/Amass as wingbacks, with occasional support from Shaw and Maz. This setup allows us to consider Mazz as a center-back, forming a group of Maguire, Yoro, Licha, De Ligt, Mazz, and Shaw, with additional support from Academy players. I assume Lindelöf and Malacia will leave.

We will have a strong mix of youth and experience, which should make us quite solid. Additionally, with Mainoo moving to the #10 role, a new midfield signing could provide extra cover in tough matches.

Probably he is the second most promising 17 years old player in the world. I like signing young wingers from Sporting, I am not sure why.
This is the way I see it too except for Shaw ever being another option at wing back. Couple of players versatile enough to play in different positions. Hopefully the right mix of all the qualities you want in a back 5 but in 12 months time looking to replace Maguire with a rapid centre half.

RWB: Quenda/Dalot/Dorgu
RCB: Mazraoui/Yoro/Dalot
CCB: De Ligt/Maguire/Yoro
LCB: Martinez/Shaw/Yoro
LWB: Dorgu/Diego/Dalot (loan Amass)
 
That's all well and good, but you should just each player on their own merits.
He just wants us to follow the normal procedure. Let the scouting team also do their homework. Not just follow the coach decision. We have made so many mistakes in the past just following the coach decision. Though the player in question is very good and has potential.
 
He just wants us to follow the normal procedure. Let the scouting team also do their homework. Not just follow the coach decision. We have made so many mistakes in the past just following the coach decision. Though the player in question is very good and has potential.
The poster was just being negative and cynical. We want the player because he's a genuinely brilliant prospect. The fact that Amorim has previously managed him is a blessing, not something to be dismissive of. Frankly, without Amorim here, I'd imagine our chances of signing this top talent would be significantly lower.
 
He just wants us to follow the normal procedure. Let the scouting team also do their homework. Not just follow the coach decision. We have made so many mistakes in the past just following the coach decision. Though the player in question is very good and has potential.
I’m pretty sure this is the club and not the coach. The only way back to the very top is to pair the best talent with the best coaching set-up and instill the right performance culture. There’s a reason we’re targeting the very best talent in all of Europe with players like Yoro and Quenda, at very young ages. Next should be to get much better at scouting and bringing in talent from Africa and South America.

The management believe in Ruben and his team to bring the best out of these players, and I believe in him too.
 
You call it cynicism?
We had a LB not so long ago that most on here (that could judge a footballer) realised would not be up to it in the Premier League but lo and behold he is playing for Benfica and suddenly we should get him back based on what he is doing now which I think is ridiculous but at least he would be cheap :lol:
Alvaro looked very strong during pre seasons and it was quite the surprise we let him go. More so considering the options we had at left back before going on to sign another one who is arguably worse.

Benfica are hardly a bad team either. I’d think a youngster playing regularly at Benfica would be a good squad option for us

But hey…other opinions must be wrong because you can apparently judge a footballer
 
The poster was just being negative and cynical. We want the player because he's a genuinely brilliant prospect. The fact that Amorim has previously managed him is a blessing, not something to be dismissive of. Frankly, without Amorim here, I'd imagine our chances of signing this top talent would be significantly lower.
How can I be called negative and cynical for being sceptical about splashing out 50mil on a 17yo from a league that is not one of the strongest in Europe?
Please explain that to me?
 
I totally understand some scepticism when it comes to splashing the cash for a talent the coach worked with before. We've been burnt heavily and it makes sense wanting to avoid a repeat of that.

That said, Quenda looks good and if we were in a position to be interested without Amorim, it's not unlikely we would be in my opinion
 
How can I be called negative and cynical for being sceptical about splashing out 50mil on a 17yo from a league that is not one of the strongest in Europe?
Please explain that to me?
Firstly one of the most reputable journalists (Ornstein) has said the fee is likely €40m which equates to £33m. So sort your figure out or maybe get a job at a tabloid.

Secondly he’ll be 18 by that time. He’s also rated by Sporting fans as their best prospect since Ronaldo. He’s not only played well in the Portuguese league but he’s excelled in Europe too. Are you also dismissive of all talent from that league? Ruben Dias? Bruno? Ugarte? Joao Neves? The league means nothing. The Dutch league gets shit for its quality but players like Luis Suarez, Gakpo, etc.. have come from there and succeeded. There’s no correlation.

So you’re quoting a made up fee, getting his position wrong, harshly judging a player based on your perceptions of the league and equating it to ETH buying former players, which basically is irrelevant. Not only that but you also forget the successes like Martinez.

It’s fine to have reservations but they need to be based on something tangible, not just things you’ve made up in your head. Maybe if you’d watched him play and offered doubts about aspects of his play-style or footballing intelligence you might get taken seriously.
 
Do you go and watch him play?
I've watched him play, yes. You could have at least expressed some doubt based on what you've seen based on his performances, as opposed to throwing shit on the wall. 'Too expensive'. 'Too young'. 'Rubbish league'. 'Formerly managed by our manager'.

Just a lazy critique that many of us have spent far too much time on.
 
He falls into the Yoro category for me. A best-in-class youngster who, if you get the opportunity to buy, you do. Would gladly see us spend £40m on him despite his age.

He's physically very gifted, very explosive for his age. But he's not just kick and rush, he's got solid fundamentals and he's fairly two-footed. If he has a weakness he needs to work on currently, for me it's his shooting - I've seen him be wasteful in a few games. But since that's currently true of most of our actual forwards too, you can hardly expect a WB to be Inzaghi.
 
I am sure if you look at his bio it will tell you he can play on the left as well as the right which should not be too hard to believe for a left footed footballer.
Antony was decent at Ajax and good in Europe and Sancho trumped him on both accounts but both playing on the flanks in England where ineffective so why is it inconceivable that a 17yo from a weaker league should struggle as well?
As I have stated to you...why do posters cream their pants over players that do well for their existing clubs but have nothing for us?
It took some a season and a half to realise we were royally bent over when it came to Casemiro while others were on the case straight away.
 
I am sure if you look at his bio it will tell you he can play on the left as well as the right which should not be too hard to believe for a left footed footballer.
Antony was decent at Ajax and good in Europe and Sancho trumped him on both accounts but both playing on the flanks in England where ineffective so why is it inconceivable that a 17yo from a weaker league should struggle as well?
As I have stated to you...why do posters cream their pants over players that do well for their existing clubs but have nothing for us?
It took some a season and a half to realise we were royally bent over when it came to Casemiro while others were on the case straight away.
Again you’re literally just reverting to “this other player failed” logic. So what? Let’s just never buy anyone again then. We’ve tried big names, we’ve tried established younger talent, we’ve tried older players, we’ve tried players from our manager’s former clubs, etc…

Not one person has said it’s inconceivable that they could struggle. You’re arguing with things people haven’t said. They are taking issue with your logic to reach that conclusion.

If you’re offering such surface level concerns then don’t be surprised when people shoot it down.
 
I've watched him play, yes. You could have at least expressed some doubt based on what you've seen based on his performances, as opposed to throwing shit on the wall. 'Too expensive'. 'Too young'. 'Rubbish league'. 'Formerly managed by our manager'.

Just a lazy critique that many of us have spent far too much time on.
How much do they charge entry at Sporting these days?
 
I have been yellow carded so I have nothing further to say on the subject :rolleyes:

For what it’s worth, I agree with your sentiment, but watch how a wordsmith like myself can make it sound.

Objectively speaking, I’m not wholly convinced that the smartest use of our apparently tight budget is to spend big on an up and coming talent, who plays in a league which has a history of receiving big transfer fees for young players, who then go on to vastly underachieve. Of course, I can observe his talent, and he’s clearly coveted, but I would be much more comfortable if £50m was the total amount but perhaps close to 50% of that is related to performance based achievements.