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He’s a RWB so jot that down for one.My point is I would not be spending big money on a 17yo LWB from a weak league
He’s a RWB so jot that down for one.My point is I would not be spending big money on a 17yo LWB from a weak league
Talking shite? CheckInflated fee? Check
Insulting the league the player comes from? Check
Likely never seen the player actually play? Check
Moaning for the sake of moaning? Check
Your cynicism is misplaced. Quenda is a quality talent. We'd be lucky to have him.As a club I would do extensive scouting before spending 50mil on a 17yo in not one of the strongest leagues in the world and the main link to us is our new coach used to coach him.
Do you know that our best ever coach never had to raid his previous team whom where brilliant in their own right to eventually find success in England.
He’s a star for Sporting who have won titles recently and is considered a special talent too. I’d be delighted with that fee given how good he looks. We will be frugal but that doesn’t mean were going to stop 50m signings especially when it’s the right profile for the system and someone very very gifted.So we are going to pay 50mil on a 17yo from the Portuguese league while we are supposed to be taking a frugal approach when it comes to transfers?
What a load of absolute shite!!
You're wrong on this one. Perhaps you haven't watched him play.My point is I would not be spending big money on a 17yo LWB from a weak league
Somebody woke up angry for sure.Inflated fee? Check
Insulting the league the player comes from? Check
Likely never seen the player actually play? Check
Moaning for the sake of moaning? Check
I've watched the kid twice and he looks special. You're just using the fact he played for Amorim to have something to complain about.As a club I would do extensive scouting before spending 50mil on a 17yo in not one of the strongest leagues in the world and the main link to us is our new coach used to coach him.
Do you know that our best ever coach never had to raid his previous team whom where brilliant in their own right to eventually find success in England.
I agree. I'm sure Dalot could have a role in the future, but I would love to upgrade the position with QuendaFair point. As long as he’s happy playing a rotation role.
He's a RWB by the way. At least be upset over someone you've seen.My point is I would not be spending big money on a 17yo LWB from a weak league
You call it cynicism?Your cynicism is misplaced. Quenda is a quality talent. We'd be lucky to have him.
Don’t blame him. I understand where he is coming from. He doesn’t want us to make the same Antony mistake that we made in the past. Let’s hope this one will be good.Your cynicism is misplaced. Quenda is a quality talent. We'd be lucky to have him.
Geezer, watch him. Until you see him you can't by so cynical.You call it cynicism?
We had a LB not so long ago that most on here (that could judge a footballer) realised would not be up to it in the Premier League but lo and behold he is playing for Benfica and suddenly we should get him back based on what he is doing now which I think is ridiculous but at least he would be cheap
My point is I would not be spending big money on a 17yo LWB from a weak league
You're dead right, he might turn out like that other 17 year old flop we bought from Sporting LIsbon a few years ago.As a club I would do extensive scouting before spending 50mil on a 17yo in not one of the strongest leagues in the world and the main link to us is our new coach used to coach him.
Do you know that our best ever coach never had to raid his previous team whom where brilliant in their own right to eventually find success in England.
Of course it's cynicism. Your point is a little weak as it appears to live and die by 'this chap can't me much cop because our previous manager tried to sign a player from his former club too and he didn't set the world alight either'.You call it cynicism?
We had a LB not so long ago that most on here (that could judge a footballer) realised would not be up to it in the Premier League but lo and behold he is playing for Benfica and suddenly we should get him back based on what he is doing now which I think is ridiculous but at least he would be cheap
You don't even know what position he plays and we're supposed to take you seriously? You have obviously never watched him play, there's no reason for a United fan not to be excited over this transfer. We're buying one of the most talented teenagers in football for a very decent fee. Go to footballia.net, watch his performance against City earlier in the season and tell us what you honestly think.My point is I would not be spending big money on a 17yo LWB from a weak league
That's all well and good, but you should just each player on their own merits.Don’t blame him. I understand where he is coming from. He doesn’t want us to make the same Antony mistake that we made in the past. Let’s hope this one will be good.
For the best.I have been yellow carded so I have nothing further to say on the subject
Yeah but one player flopped in completely different circumstances so how can we ever sign a player againThat's all well and good, but you should just each player on their own merits.
This is the way I see it too except for Shaw ever being another option at wing back. Couple of players versatile enough to play in different positions. Hopefully the right mix of all the qualities you want in a back 5 but in 12 months time looking to replace Maguire with a rapid centre half.This transfer seems obvious. We would have Quenda, Dalot, Dorgu, and Diego/Amass as wingbacks, with occasional support from Shaw and Maz. This setup allows us to consider Mazz as a center-back, forming a group of Maguire, Yoro, Licha, De Ligt, Mazz, and Shaw, with additional support from Academy players. I assume Lindelöf and Malacia will leave.
We will have a strong mix of youth and experience, which should make us quite solid. Additionally, with Mainoo moving to the #10 role, a new midfield signing could provide extra cover in tough matches.
Probably he is the second most promising 17 years old player in the world. I like signing young wingers from Sporting, I am not sure why.
He just wants us to follow the normal procedure. Let the scouting team also do their homework. Not just follow the coach decision. We have made so many mistakes in the past just following the coach decision. Though the player in question is very good and has potential.That's all well and good, but you should just each player on their own merits.
At least the club won't be suckered into following this logicYeah but one player flopped in completely different circumstances so how can we ever sign a player again
The poster was just being negative and cynical. We want the player because he's a genuinely brilliant prospect. The fact that Amorim has previously managed him is a blessing, not something to be dismissive of. Frankly, without Amorim here, I'd imagine our chances of signing this top talent would be significantly lower.He just wants us to follow the normal procedure. Let the scouting team also do their homework. Not just follow the coach decision. We have made so many mistakes in the past just following the coach decision. Though the player in question is very good and has potential.
I’m pretty sure this is the club and not the coach. The only way back to the very top is to pair the best talent with the best coaching set-up and instill the right performance culture. There’s a reason we’re targeting the very best talent in all of Europe with players like Yoro and Quenda, at very young ages. Next should be to get much better at scouting and bringing in talent from Africa and South America.He just wants us to follow the normal procedure. Let the scouting team also do their homework. Not just follow the coach decision. We have made so many mistakes in the past just following the coach decision. Though the player in question is very good and has potential.
Alvaro looked very strong during pre seasons and it was quite the surprise we let him go. More so considering the options we had at left back before going on to sign another one who is arguably worse.You call it cynicism?
We had a LB not so long ago that most on here (that could judge a footballer) realised would not be up to it in the Premier League but lo and behold he is playing for Benfica and suddenly we should get him back based on what he is doing now which I think is ridiculous but at least he would be cheap
How can I be called negative and cynical for being sceptical about splashing out 50mil on a 17yo from a league that is not one of the strongest in Europe?The poster was just being negative and cynical. We want the player because he's a genuinely brilliant prospect. The fact that Amorim has previously managed him is a blessing, not something to be dismissive of. Frankly, without Amorim here, I'd imagine our chances of signing this top talent would be significantly lower.
Because you haven't watched him play.How can I be called negative and cynical for being sceptical about splashing out 50mil on a 17yo from a league that is not one of the strongest in Europe?
Please explain that to me?
Do you go and watch him play?Because you haven't watched him play.
Firstly one of the most reputable journalists (Ornstein) has said the fee is likely €40m which equates to £33m. So sort your figure out or maybe get a job at a tabloid.How can I be called negative and cynical for being sceptical about splashing out 50mil on a 17yo from a league that is not one of the strongest in Europe?
Please explain that to me?
I've watched him play, yes. You could have at least expressed some doubt based on what you've seen based on his performances, as opposed to throwing shit on the wall. 'Too expensive'. 'Too young'. 'Rubbish league'. 'Formerly managed by our manager'.Do you go and watch him play?
Again you’re literally just reverting to “this other player failed” logic. So what? Let’s just never buy anyone again then. We’ve tried big names, we’ve tried established younger talent, we’ve tried older players, we’ve tried players from our manager’s former clubs, etc…I am sure if you look at his bio it will tell you he can play on the left as well as the right which should not be too hard to believe for a left footed footballer.
Antony was decent at Ajax and good in Europe and Sancho trumped him on both accounts but both playing on the flanks in England where ineffective so why is it inconceivable that a 17yo from a weaker league should struggle as well?
As I have stated to you...why do posters cream their pants over players that do well for their existing clubs but have nothing for us?
It took some a season and a half to realise we were royally bent over when it came to Casemiro while others were on the case straight away.
How much do they charge entry at Sporting these days?I've watched him play, yes. You could have at least expressed some doubt based on what you've seen based on his performances, as opposed to throwing shit on the wall. 'Too expensive'. 'Too young'. 'Rubbish league'. 'Formerly managed by our manager'.
Just a lazy critique that many of us have spent far too much time on.
Congratulations for losing the argument and responding in a clichéd manner.How much do they charge entry at Sporting these days?
Goalposts clearly had to be moved!Congratulations for losing the argument and responding in a clichéd manner.
I have been yellow carded so I have nothing further to say on the subject