Geovany Quenda - Summer 2025

Sly said:
I believe that the deal hasn't been done yet. It's just exploratory talks. I also believe that this must be an express wish of Amorim since he knows him well in terms of ability and potential. I maintain that I think this will be the only player Amorim will get from Sporting (sry no Gyökeres gents). Only my opinion and speculation of course.

Regarding Quenda I wrote this in another thread:


"What I like in Quenda is his physical traits, technical ability, tactical awareness and football intelligence , passing (look at some of his assists, specially his assist for Gyokeres goal against Citeh in the CL) and versatility since he can play multiple positions. Coaches like his humility and personality. His work rate and ethics is Ronaldo like. He gave up two weeks in his vacation so he would be ready for this season. He's obsessed with football and being a top football player. Although he earns very well now, he still lives at our academy with the youth ranks from our academy.

He can play as right wing back and RW or LW. He's very quick and can maintain ball control dribbling at speed. He can play in tight spaces, looking for quick passes and one twos so the team can break defensive lines. His movement is very intelligent, very direct with confidence.

What he has to work in? He has to work on his decision making and finishing but that's expected in 17 year old. In the final third he needs to improve his decisions and final pass. He needs to mix it up in his dribbling as well. He is always trying to cut inside to use his stronger left foot. Although he can shoot and cross with his right foot, it can make him predictable.

Defensively he needs to improve as well. He needs to be more incisive, following his player because Amorim likes high pressure without the ball. He's getting good advices and help from Inácio, Hjulmand and Daniel Bragança, so he's gradually getting better.

Obviously with 17 years of age, he's still work in progress. But I'm almost certain he will be a top player. His ability and mentality will drive him to a successful career. We have produced alot of exciting players in our academy, Ronaldo, Figo, Rafael Leão and many others and he's up there with the very best. Even those weren't as impressive as Quenda at 17 years of age career wise and in terms of accomplishments."
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Thanks for the insight Sly, that's much appreciated. Love the fact that he seems very grounded.
 
Bojan Djordjic said:
Rashford frequently does. I've seen plenty of videos of him doing extras before pre-season starts with his own personal coach.
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Feels more like PR to me because he doesn't put effort in during training.

It's like saying I go to the gym 3 hours a day but I just go to the cafe or stand near a vending machine the whole time
 
Leon/Dorgu on left and Quenda/Amad on right, our wing backs will be sorted for next 10-12 years
 
Not seeing it, we have players in the yoof academy who can do what he shows on film. The quoted price tag is way too much for what he currently is pitted against what we need. We need strikers.
 
What I like about signings like this and Dorgu is both could turn out to be great wing backs for us. But they are versatile enough that if Amorim wasn’t to work out we aren’t stuck with two pure wing backs. Quetta could easily be a winger and Dorgu has played as a full back and a winger.
 
We might have an average age of 21 next season if we sign this lad, tel, then add heaven, yoro, mainoo and co...

Plus losing eriksen, Lindelof, Evan's and maybe Casemiro....
 
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championo said:
Not seeing it, we have players in the yoof academy who can do what he shows on film. The quoted price tag is way too much for what he currently is pitted against what we need. We need strikers.
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Ok, which one? You willing to bet they could put up performances like Quenda does in CL?
 
championo said:
Samuel Lusale. Give him a chance. get rid of the cancers and get the dressing room mentality right. He does love the tiktok though.
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haha..are you kidding? He's not even nearly the best kid in the academy and you think he's better than this dynamo that's making 90mn players look like slugs in the champions league.
 
Is this going to be our priority in the summer? Our squad next season is going to be the youngest in the prem.
 
One of the nobrainers, we are buiyng equivalent of Luke Shaw, a player alreay playing at senior level in the system he knows throughout. Will only improve so much if injuries don't stop him. He's a perfect player for Amorim and perfect investment for us.

Surely he coud be developed into a fullback or classic winger if he leave the WB system too. as hes very young.
 
He is a beast but his numbers are not that great in terms of assists. Even Porto’s wingbacks have more and they are far from Premier league material.

He is very young and has great potential, but I’m not sure his impact will be immediate, at least offensively.
 
Could we lay to rest a couple of age-related myths that pop up in here more than they should?

We'd be signing an 18 year old, not 17.

Ronaldo did not join at 17.
 
Fox outside the box said:
This level of 1 dimensional thinking always takes me by surprised.

If you have a car crash on a Wednesday, do you then avoid driving on Wednesdays because in your head it's happened before and therefore will happen again?

Crazy how prevalent it is amongst football fans.
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You are thinking about the probabilities wrong I think.

We sign a manager. We as a club want to sign new players. The best player possible to sign according to the new manager is someone he has worked with before. What are the odds of this? They aren't remote odds but it should be looked upon with suspicion.

My view with ten hag was he was under pressure and reached for what he knew. Managers do this all the time. We shouldn't allow it to be the norm
 
Crashoutcassius said:
You are thinking about the probabilities wrong I think.

We sign a manager. We as a club want to sign new players. The best player possible to sign according to the new manager is someone he has worked with before. What are the odds of this? They aren't remote odds but it should be looked upon with suspicion.

My view with ten hag was he was under pressure and reached for what he knew. Managers do this all the time. We shouldn't allow it to be the norm
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I don't believe Klopp signed a single player he used to manage during his time at Liverpool?
 
gulli_G said:
The same doesn't apply, as ETH was bought in to play the Ajax way and he abandoned that after a few games. Papered over the cracks for the first year and then when he tried to change things went downhill quick and had spent circa 600m.

Ruben has stuck to his system day one, we have seen it work against city in the CL and even with this hodge podge of (other managers players), against the big teams. We are no longer a counter attacking team and we notice improvements as he gets more time to train with them.
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Again, hindsight in full force here. Maybe you should rewatch the last few goals we scored, the amount of at least fortunate ones is noticable. It is early days for Ruben, would never hold it against him but lets not act as if he is surething or something. It just doesn't work like that.

gulli_G said:
All this with him coming in mid-season during our most congested fixture period. Why is £33m too expensive for a player of his quality, he is playing good in his league and proving himself in Europe too. Players like Nuno Mendes have left similar leagues and doing good at PSG and in CL.

Nani, Bruno and Ronaldo came from the same league. Why are fans stressing over £33m which will include add-ons?
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Maybe adress me directly? And just to be sure, I am not stressing over such amounts. The actual amounts aren't even the most important to me - if we had 400 million to spend, bring in Quenda even for 60 or 70, my criticism isn't against the player at all. It is a cryout for reasonable risk assessment in times of restricted resources combined with a lot of areas to adress. If we can afford Quenda, Dorgu plus a first eleven quality midfielder, a reliable goal scorer in at least EL quality bracket and another CB that challenges the current starters, I am fine. If not, maybe we don't have to go for the highest rated young player for once as if we are Real Madrid who have a functional, competetive side that is good enough to compete for major honors. We ARE NOT at that level. And there won't be a fast lane. Banking on 18 year olds might not be the safest route - especially given that we have quite a few on them on the pitch on a regular basis even now. Now is the time to add players in their peaks because that is where we are alarmingly low in numbers, with only Onana, De Ligt, Dalot, Maz, Ugarte, Mount, Antony and Rashford to be considered there and 3 of those 8 aren't available more often than not. This is the age group we have to add into and this isn't going to get cheap.

Adnan said:
You make some good points which I agree with.

People keep talking about the system but the system Amorim implements is the same as many other head coaches around Europe. The only difference at United currently is that since he's come in he's changed the formation and instead of using wingers/wide forwards to stretch the pitch, he's going to utilise the wingbacks to replicate what the wingers/wide forwards would've been asked to do. I would hope that change doesn't back fire on us in the longterm incase we have to change the head coach. Someone like Quenda looks to be talented enough to adapt as both a winger or wingback and Dorgu I'm not sure has the game to be a good enough winger in a team that aims to compete at the very top of the game and his weaker foot needs improvement.
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I agree. I think, some of it is down with using system and formation interchangably which isn't ideal. I agree with you, the players we are looking at should be rather safe in terms of re-usability. Same goes to most of ETHs signings though, at least in my eyes.

Adnan said:
The system itself currently looks to be gearing up towards a more direct game with the backline being heavily relied upon for progression. The signing of Ugarte hasn't rectified the midfield issues after the departure of Fred and we're still a team that doesn't have the personnel in deeper midfield who can be relied upon to progress the ball in the build up phase to a good enough level against the very best teams. Hence we're still getting our best results against the top teams by waiting for them to come to us whilst we sit compact in a deeper block. Unless someone from the youth team emerges or we buy a metronome in midfield to pull the strings and set the tempo, the way they're building the team looks as if we're going to be going direct with the midfield two being repellers out of possession and the backline still being the main supply line for progression.
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Which I am happy to take as long as it is seen as a temporary thing. But as you say, I think, we are in major need of CL-last-16 team quality and we'll need a goal source, not necessarily an Isak or Gyokeres level but a somewhat reliable source of goals to take off pressure from Hojlund and JZ. There is a lot of stuff to do, and I am a bit afraid that those young guys will get talked down next year when they fail to live up to some lofty expectations and pricetags even though the odds of that happening are pretty high. Even if anything else goes smooth.

(as a side note, I think one of the most crucial things this summer is evaluate if we want to stick to Hojlund as a future striker or not. If whoever is tasked with finding that out (independent scouts or whoever) thinks he isn't good enough, then we have to jump into action for a starter, if not we have to bring in a good rotational option).
 
NZT-One said:
Again, hindsight in full force here. Maybe you should rewatch the last few goals we scored, the amount of at least fortunate ones is noticable. It is early days for Ruben, would never hold it against him but lets not act as if he is surething or something. It just doesn't work like that.


Maybe adress me directly? And just to be sure, I am not stressing over such amounts. The actual amounts aren't even the most important to me - if we had 400 million to spend, bring in Quenda even for 60 or 70, my criticism isn't against the player at all. It is a cryout for reasonable risk assessment in times of restricted resources combined with a lot of areas to adress. If we can afford Quenda, Dorgu plus a first eleven quality midfielder, a reliable goal scorer in at least EL quality bracket and another CB that challenges the current starters, I am fine. If not, maybe we don't have to go for the highest rated young player for once as if we are Real Madrid who have a functional, competetive side that is good enough to compete for major honors. We ARE NOT at that level. And there won't be a fast lane. Banking on 18 year olds might not be the safest route - especially given that we have quite a few on them on the pitch on a regular basis even now. Now is the time to add players in their peaks because that is where we are alarmingly low in numbers, with only Onana, De Ligt, Dalot, Maz, Ugarte, Mount, Antony and Rashford to be considered there and 3 of those 8 aren't available more often than not. This is the age group we have to add into and this isn't going to get cheap.


I agree. I think, some of it is down with using system and formation interchangably which isn't ideal. I agree with you, the players we are looking at should be rather safe in terms of re-usability. Same goes to most of ETHs signings though, at least in my eyes.


Which I am happy to take as long as it is seen as a temporary thing. But as you say, I think, we are in major need of CL-last-16 team quality and we'll need a goal source, not necessarily an Isak or Gyokeres level but a somewhat reliable source of goals to take off pressure from Hojlund and JZ. There is a lot of stuff to do, and I am a bit afraid that those young guys will get talked down next year when they fail to live up to some lofty expectations and pricetags even though the odds of that happening are pretty high. Even if anything else goes smooth.

(as a side note, I think one of the most crucial things this summer is evaluate if we want to stick to Hojlund as a future striker or not. If whoever is tasked with finding that out (independent scouts or whoever) thinks he isn't good enough, then we have to jump into action for a starter, if not we have to bring in a good rotational option).
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I won't go personal, as the forum rules are so, and I will address the points that a number of posters are making. We can agree to disagree, we clearly have different viewpoints on similar topics. With ETH it is not hindsight, I had similar views during his reign.

With Quenda, it looks like the club is targeting a much needed player for a crucial position early, maybe to fend off possible competition. He is comparitively cheap in relation to other more established options, especially if we got them from within the League. I still don't see why 33m for a big talent who has played well in the CL is too much. how does that become 60m or 70m, where are you getting that value from?

Also buying him will not mean we will not target other crucial positions, we will. Some we already know the values of, for example Cunha (announced today he has a release clause), and Gyokeres, will reportedley have a lower value than his RC.

There will definitely be sales, Rashford, Casemiro, Anthony, possibly, Dalot, Mount and Shaw to name a few.

We have made space for wages already and will release more in the summer. Nowhere did the club say we have no more money in the summer, we just need to balance it out for PSR purposes..let's not panic till the summer transfer window closes just yet.
 
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Bojan Djordjic said:
Rashford frequently does. I've seen plenty of videos of him doing extras before pre-season starts with his own personal coach.
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Yes I've some of those videos too, weird that he always shows up looking tired and out of shape when pre-season starts.
 
Huge step up physically from Sporting to playing wingback here.

Looks exciting though. I’ll admit I’d rather a right footer at RWB and a lefty at LWB though.
 
GreatDane said:
Yes I've some of those videos too, weird that he always shows up looking tired and out of shape when pre-season starts.
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Ah god, I get that Rashford is inconsistent and hasn't turned out the way fans wanted him to but I'd love to see evidence of him ever being out of shape. This is such horse manure.
 
Sly said:
I maintain that I think this will be the only player Amorim will get from Sporting (sry no Gyökeres gents). Only my opinion and speculation of course.
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Is it because Gyokeres not worth the value?

I can’t imagine by end of the season after 6-7 months working with the current squad and our current strikers, Amorim will think that Hojlund and Zirkzee are going to be his number 9 for next season.

We’re going to sign Quenda as wingback but we don’t have striker who can score goals, will it even work? Unless if he wants to twitch his system a little bit and play false 9.
 
I can't wait to see Quenda and Dorgu play our wings. With full understanding that both of them are young and unproven, and neither of them are guaranteed to work, but FFS - what a potential to get excited about!

Right on! Make this happen
 
NewGlory said:
I can't wait to see Quenda and Dorgu play our wings. With full understanding that both of them are young and unproven, and neither of them are guaranteed to work, but FFS - what a potential to get excited about!

Right on! Make this happen
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I share the excitement. Tbh anything Dalot would be nice. DD is such a lemon of a player.
 
championo said:
Not seeing it, we have players in the yoof academy who can do what he shows on film. The quoted price tag is way too much for what he currently is pitted against what we need. We need strikers.
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I’d love to see these players in our youth academy. This guy is doing it in the CL. I think we’d know if we had a player of this quality ready in the youth academy. They’d be in the first team no doubt.
 
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