Ffs that is very annoying. He is more suited to a club like United. Chelsea have too many players in every position. When he joins Chelsea at 19 he won't get a sniff and will be wasted.
Geovany Quenda | Ornstein: Chelsea agree 7-year deal with option of a further year. Will go to Chelsea in 2026.
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I suppose theoretically we could also sign another LWB and use Dorgu as the left-footed RWB. Not like Amorim hasn't already shown a willingness to do so.
Legacy of overspending on utter dreck. Missed oit on a great talent for a great price.
How Chelsea are not in PSR trouble is beyond me.
I think this could be a blessing in disguise. United need more immediate impact players than an 18 year-old no matter how good a talent he might be.
I personally don't know how much he will actually progress, feels like he is one of those players who is maybe just peaking very early rather than this being a sign that he'll definitely go from being good to absolute elite. Not every teenager has the same gap between their current ability and potential and he might already be closer to fulfilling his than people think.
I also think Amad has been way more impactful as a RWB than further up the pitch this season and should play their long-term; a new RAM with him at wing-back I think will help transform the fortunes of the team quicker.
I personally don't know how much he will actually progress, feels like he is one of those players who is maybe just peaking very early rather than this being a sign that he'll definitely go from being good to absolute elite. Not every teenager has the same gap between their current ability and potential and he might already be closer to fulfilling his than people think.
I also think Amad has been way more impactful as a RWB than further up the pitch this season and should play their long-term; a new RAM with him at wing-back I think will help transform the fortunes of the team quicker.
50m for a 17 year old is a great price?
He’s crap anyway, never wanted him. 
They keep buying hotels off of themselves
They keep selling players for decent amounts of money. Maatsen, Gallagher, Lewis Hall, Lukaku, Hutchinson, Angelo (who?), Casadei was a total of around £200m, just this season. Havertz, Mount, Kovacic, Koulibaly, Pulisic, Loftus Cheek and others for £250m last season.
They find idiots who are ready to buy their injury prone homegrown rubbish for 50m.
Aren’t most of their deals amortised/stretched over ridiculously long player contracts? The rule change was because of what they were doing, but by then most of their deals had been done, no?
And as far as I know, the new rules do not apply retroactively so it will only count for deals moving forward. Likely why they’re still OK
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Thank god for that.
Bring Vanderson or Wesley please.
Bring Vanderson or Wesley please.
Its IS true. Plus yes. Frimpong is the best right wing back in the business who operates in back 3 football. You don't overate him at all.
Meanwhile Real Madrid are obsessed with bagging Trent for free. City have their heart set on Cambiasso who is more of a natural defender than most attacking wingbacks, especially since they gave young wingers. . I'd say right now the threat is Liverpool if they lose Trent. If we were to fight for his signature.
Not too fussed by this. Spending £50m on a 17 year old demanding high wages is not what we want to be doing right now. We’ve got so much youth in the squad already and we’ve seen from the likes of Heaven, Obi, Dorgu that there are quality players out there which will provide a lot more bang for their buck.
I’d imagine also that Dalot improving his form and Dorgu looking good at LWB has influenced the decision to back off and not compete with what Chelsea were offering… I think we’ll still get a RWB in the summer but will be looking at a more modest fee as competition for Dalot rather than a player that is expected to start and is almost certainly a better option higher up the pitch where we had Amed anyway.
Kayode (on load at Brentford from Fiorentina) could be a good option and would hopefully be somewhere around the £20-£30m mark.
I’d imagine also that Dalot improving his form and Dorgu looking good at LWB has influenced the decision to back off and not compete with what Chelsea were offering… I think we’ll still get a RWB in the summer but will be looking at a more modest fee as competition for Dalot rather than a player that is expected to start and is almost certainly a better option higher up the pitch where we had Amed anyway.
Kayode (on load at Brentford from Fiorentina) could be a good option and would hopefully be somewhere around the £20-£30m mark.
So why have they given him 7 +1?
Has to be Frimpong not seen enough of Quenda but feels he was a risk irrespective given his age and playing in Portugal.
We may have a chance if Liverpool prefer a classic RB. His defending is not as good as his attacking, similar to Trent. As a RWB however, we couldn't get someone better for that price.
I dont think this is true, we got good results at Anfield and City because he was playing higher. He should only play there when its against teams we are going to dominate heavily so he spends more time in their half.
Thanks to Mount!
Oh well, hopefully we'll live through this.
Because they sell as well as buy.
Everton getting more money than us is criminal.
Because it gives them more flexibility when it comes to renewing their contracts. If they give him a 5 year contract they're renewing when he turns 22 and probably at his highest potential sale value, that gives him a lot of leverage.
That's very annoying as I think he's going to be a top top talent. If we've limited funds Amad at RWB will suffice to ensure we bring in a striker and midfielder though.
More attractive to the player? Club don't have to worry about renewing or losing on a free?
It's an odd one. Not sure I'd want to commit to that long as a player unless the money was incredible. Can't imagine they've offered him a super wage at this point in his career, but who really knows...
It's a shame but then I'm also not sure we're yet in a position to spend that type of fee on a player who can't come in and immediately start regularly for us. We just don't have the squad depth/quality or funds right now.
Clever of Chelsea to get this over the line early though. I imagine this was probably a transfer we'd have explored more closely had we gotten into Europe.
Clever of Chelsea to get this over the line early though. I imagine this was probably a transfer we'd have explored more closely had we gotten into Europe.
Murtough was too busy building the data analysis department at the time. It's a shame that SJR has yet to find it.
I'm sure he's very talented, but missing out on players happens to all clubs.
Even just in the last few seasons a team like Liverpool missed out on multiple targets for midfield, for example. And that when they're obviously in a much stronger position than us. Given how far away we are from competing, it's just something we're gonna have to accept is particularly likely to happen over the next few years.
Ultimately it isn't missing out on good signings that kills you, it's making bad signings. If our newly revamped recruitment team can't identify quality alternatives then we're fecked in the long term regardless.
Even just in the last few seasons a team like Liverpool missed out on multiple targets for midfield, for example. And that when they're obviously in a much stronger position than us. Given how far away we are from competing, it's just something we're gonna have to accept is particularly likely to happen over the next few years.
Ultimately it isn't missing out on good signings that kills you, it's making bad signings. If our newly revamped recruitment team can't identify quality alternatives then we're fecked in the long term regardless.
It's also a shrewd way of avoiding paying multiple agent fees.
Or still feels weird that few clubs actually do this though, and players accept it...for Chelsea...
I dunno, just seems an odd thing to me
That’s a shame I think he was nailed on for a summer move
That's a real shame.
And if Chelsea have agreed to only sign him in 2026 then it seems a missed opportunity from us. That would have been a very clever deal for us, as it means we secure him.for the future but don't actually commit any money on a 17 year old for now so could still address more pressing short term issues (such as #9 and CM) while Quenda develops further at Sporting and arrives less raw.
Would have been a very good deal that works well around our current financial issues. I guess the only gamble is if he got a serious issue in that time and the move is a guaranteed purchase that we (now Chelsea) couldn't back out of. But injuries are a gamble with every signing - as we're all too aware of!
And if Chelsea have agreed to only sign him in 2026 then it seems a missed opportunity from us. That would have been a very clever deal for us, as it means we secure him.for the future but don't actually commit any money on a 17 year old for now so could still address more pressing short term issues (such as #9 and CM) while Quenda develops further at Sporting and arrives less raw.
Would have been a very good deal that works well around our current financial issues. I guess the only gamble is if he got a serious issue in that time and the move is a guaranteed purchase that we (now Chelsea) couldn't back out of. But injuries are a gamble with every signing - as we're all too aware of!
Didn’t see that one coming at all
Yeah annoyingly it’s a better deal then what I expected from us
- We needed a right sided wingback
- One of Europe's best 17 year olds is a right side wingback
- He played for our current manager
- We expected to sign him
- He's just signed for Chelsea
We're absolutely useless.
Haaland v2
- One of Europe's best 17 year olds is a right side wingback
- He played for our current manager
- We expected to sign him
- He's just signed for Chelsea
We're absolutely useless.
Haaland v2
Calm down
I’d prefer Tyler Dybling to be fair, Quenda has huge potential but again unproven in PL.
Tyler Dybling and Amad would be perfect for the right wing back/right 10 options.
Tyler Dybling and Amad would be perfect for the right wing back/right 10 options.
We need two on to plan b