Jesus christ. You know you've fecked up when you make Starmer look an effective debater. He's even getting a couple of polite chuckles.
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Not sure if it's the two of them or the host (or format), but all feels a bit amateurish. Starmer has probably looks better but hardly a compliment.
As ever they need to cut the mics when each speaker's time is up
They should just put them in soundproof booths and mute their mics if they talk over the moderator
To think these 2 clowns are the best we can do. We're fecked.
Having a debate when neither party has released a manifesto is utterly pointless.
Sunak I do think is a better debater, mainly because he has to go bolder and Starmer has to essentially say nothing. Hence why he wanted them and Starmer didn't
Why do they both have the same shit haircut?
Agreed, contrary to the general belief Starmer is coming off worse here, he hasn't answered one question directly.
They get the same shit politics from their barber too.
Sunak getting groans from the audience - not good at all.
Yeah, I can't see how anyone with a straight face can say Starmer is winning this. He has ignored certain big questions with really poor answers. The retirement tax was a bad moment
Absolute farce so far.
Sunak is far more forceful, the host is shite and Starmer is too verbose and robotic meaning he always has to start with “my mum is a nurse” “i ran a public service” etc.
Makes for a fecking shit debate.
Makes for a fecking shit debate.
If Rishi stops blabbering on we might actually get an answer out of Starmer.
Pretty miserable performance from the pair of them. Starmer has come across marginally better but that's hardly praise worthy.
I think the issue for Sunak is that he's the current prime minister, his party has been around for a while and he's behind in the polls. Not sure a narrow victory here does for Sunak. With that considered, I think Starmer will probably be okay with it.
What on earth is the moderator doing. Absolutely abject performance so far.
Not watching but I’m guessing it’s something like this
This is terrible. Starmer can’t answer a single question, although I’m not sure why Sunak is being allowed to dictate asking questions of him, without answering a single one himself.
He's deflecting, the host literally asked the same question after shutting Sunak up and he still deflected it.
At the end of the day the general population of the UK will hear that he has no answer to a £2000 increase in taxes and taxing pensioners and that will be a killer.
I'm amazed the Tories haven't refined Sunak's debating technique. He got a lot of criticism in the Sunak-Truss debates for talking over and constantly interrupting her, to the point they were accusing him of bullying and mansplaining to her. The weak moderating doesn't help this time around.
Pretty shite debate.
Pretty shite debate.
Sunaks argument is more 'things will continue to be shit' but Starmer as PM things will get even worse. So he really doesn't need to answer anything.
We've reached the legitimate concerns round.
Good shout.
Stop the boats
The actual person is called Victoria and is an onlyfans "entrepreneur"
Yeah it's all a bit vague as pensioners are already paying tax on anything above the personal allowance, he should have squashed it or come clean.
Starmer is wearing so much foundation I'm expecting a sandworm to burst out of his face at any moment.Not watching but I’m guessing it’s something like this
Gonna need a link.
Sunak I still think is a better debater in terms of putting the other person in a corner (did that with Truss too but that's not hard) but he shits the bed when the other person doesn't respond the way he wants and starts jumping up and down
Yeah I mean he keeps repeating for him to answer the question, despite him answering the question. Starmer should go on the attack, he’s letting Sunak simply say “we are sending people in planes, what will you do” when there’s so much to attack around the Rwanda policy instead.Sunaks argument is more 'things will continue to be shit' but Starmer as PM things will get even worse. So he really doesn't need to answer anything.
Agree. Sunak is winning the debate to my mind, but comes across like a knob, which won't help him. Starmer isn't directly answering most of the questions put to him, which is embarrassing, but he feels he doesn't need to.
Watching some of the debate on Youtube - Starmer and Sunak are so hopeless.
If we're going to have to suffer through stale debates like this with 2 party leaders, it shouldn't just be limited to the 2 main parties. An hour long debate between Farage and Galloway would be incredible TV.
Instead he said he would accept moving immigrants to a 3rd country if international law allows it. Basically agreeing to the plan that him and his party were so up in arms against in the first place.
See the thing is about Starmer is he's so bendy, you can tell the pressure gets to him and he says shit he'll regret later.
Meh, like I said earlier any of these 2 and we're fecked regardless.
I've got no hope in the next 5-10 years.
The person asking the climate question looks exactly like I would have expected someone to ask about climate would look
Sunak's head explodes when he can't follow the script.
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