And people were outraged i called her poison a few pages back
There's a month to the GE and Starmer should be busy setting out his stand, instead he's got to spend the day fielding questions about this idiot.
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And people were outraged i called her poison a few pages back
There's a month to the GE and Starmer should be busy setting out his stand, instead he's got to spend the day fielding questions about this idiot.
If she calls sexual assault victims liars will she win you pair back?And people were outraged i called her poison a few pages back
There's a month to the GE and Starmer should be busy setting out his stand, instead he's got to spend the day fielding questions about this idiot.
Should have known the person to blame for Starmer lying about a disciplinary process being ongoing when it was concluded months ago was the black woman.
What has her race got to do with anything?
NEC are independent so Starmer can't get involved. Looking at the timeline the investigation concluded in December 2023. She didn't start her mandatory course until February 2024. From there the decision making process seems to slow down a little. If I was Starmer I wouldn't rush to make a decision either to tell the truth.
So now Abbott texts a BBC journalist this morning saying the whip was restored bit she's barred from standing for Labour.
She later tweets that she is in full support for labour and will be campaigning as such. The tweet is above. At the bottom she says she's dismayed by reports she's been barred. Labour are saying she hasn't been. How can she be dismayed at reports that she started?!
So today, instead of talking about the NHS waiting list pledge, we're talking about Abbott.
And that is why she's a problem for the Labour party.
Bit of a coup Sinn Féin in NI - Pat Cullen, the Royal College of Nursing chief, is seeking the nomination to stand for the party in Fermanagh & South Tyrone.
As leader, Starmer sits on the NEC. It's always a good start when you tell us from the get-go that you know absolutely nothing about what you're talking about.
Complaining that we're having to talk about a process that he's purposely let go this long by blaming the person being left in limbo by it is absolutely pathetic. Just to check, it's still everyone else in the cuIt yeah?
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I did a quick Google, and JL Partners have been criticised for their polling methodology in the past. This may also be a poll with Tory bias given the pollsters background. We will have to see whether this is an outlier. I don't think Labour are 20 points up btw.
I'm confused. Can she stand? Starmer says that "no decision has been taken", does that suggest a decision might be taken?
It's so hard to know what it means because of all the other strange things Starmer says:
Starmer says that Israel has the right to withhold food and water from a starving population.
Starmer says that he is "delighted" to welcome someone who trolls sexual assault victims.
Starmer says he is a socialist.
Baffling stuff.
You can have a discussion without turning to insults, bad ones at that. I'm not lowering myself to that, instead I'll do this:
The new process for handling complaints involving protected characteristics
- The new process includes the establishment of two new bodies: the Independent Review Board (IRB) and the Independent Complaints Board(ICB).
- The IRB will have a pool of 6 lawyers working in rotation and will review all disciplinary decisions involving complaints involving protected characteristics that are made by panels of the NEC Complaints and Disciplinary Sub-Committee.
- The lawyers will have the power to either veto or verify decisions made by panels of the NEC Complaints and Disciplinary Sub-Committee. If a determination is vetoed, a newly constituted panel will be convened to determine that particular case (and that decision will then be subsequently reviewed by a lawyer from the IRB).
- The ICB inserts the second element of independence into the Party’s complaints process. The ICB role is to hear complaints involving protected characteristics and to determine appeals brought against decisions taken by the NEC in respect of complaints involving protected characteristics.
- The ICB will have 12 members: 4 lawyers, 4 HR or regulatory experts and 4 Labour Party lay members. They will sit as panels of 3 (one from each category, with the lawyer acting as chair) to hear and determine cases.
- The new independent boards are expected to be up and running by March 2022.
Starmer hoped to kick the issue down the road long enough that the deadline for candidates putting themselves forward would pass and they could quietly prevent her from standing at all. Hence him repeatedly lying about this ongoing non-independent investigation meaning he couldn't do anything. Then Newsnight got a scoop that the investigation was actually concluded months ago, so the Starmer Party have been panicking in the couple of days since then when they realised the game was up.
They then leaked to the press that she'd been barred from running, which I believe was done for two reasons. Firstly, so they could get Diane to say something in response that they could then ban her from the party for and the second as the canary in the coal mine, with the hope that all their mates in the media would cheer on the decision. Instead it turns out the press actually give a shit about Starmer's lies when they're the ones being lied to for months on end, namely about this investigation being ongoing when it's been concluded for months and with the reaction to their decision and Diane not playing ball with that bannable comment, now they're scrambling to come up with a Plan B. Luckily his non-cuIt members are blaming everyone but the guy who has sat on this decision for months for the fact we're talking about it now and not months ago when it had actually concluded.
Please don't lower yourself to my level by calling people 'Thick as feck' example, that would be awful.
Also, what does the rest of that have to do with Starmer sitting on making his decision for months on end? Absolutely nothing.
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Diane Abbot is a liability with the British public because they are morons and are easily led by headlines.
She needn't be held as the token black MP as Momentum seem to allude in their silly statement today, it's 2024.
Why would anyone at Labour logically want Diane in the spotlight simply baffles me.
She needn't be held as the token black MP as Momentum seem to allude in their silly statement today, it's 2024.
Why would anyone at Labour logically want Diane in the spotlight simply baffles me.
Bringing up that she's black, female and anything else is lazily trying to drag the discussion down to emotional gutter politics.
She's a left wing socialist, a thick and outspoken one, and that's not popular with the public. Starmer may be about to win the election but he'd do well to remember that it's not because the public have all of a sudden lurched to the left, it's because they have had enough of the current government. History tells us the public sits centre right. If he starts placating lunatic fringe elements like Momentum and other Corbyn disciples he'll find his time in power short lived.
Come on, you can just say uppity.
This Lewis Goodall interview with what looks like a pig inside a rotisserie oven might explain a bit.
Not if you’re thick and outspoken!
Got a letter from my local MP ahead of the election. No mention of the party she is running for. I wonder why
Been hectic at work so didn't have chance. I saw one really old pollster on BBC the other day was saying the shy Tory factor might be very strong in this election, particularly with Rwanda I guess, so he was sceptical of the 20 point lead too. Given no-one who supports Labour seems to like or even trust Starmer, no idea how exactly this will play out.
Oh feck off, why is this racist cnut given any airtime? Too scared to stand as a candidate yet keeps appearing on shows, shouting his bile.
Liz Truss is going for an interview by Lotus Eaters, who were founded by Carl Benjamin.
Give her some time and she will be doing youtube skits with Count Dankula.
Give her some time and she will be doing youtube skits with Count Dankula.
Why are people angling the "if you dislike Abbott you are racist?"
She's an unhinged tankie. This is a person who :
Tried to justify Chairman Mao and said that Stalin did lots of great things.
Said that white mothers don't care about their children as much as Black mothers (or willing to go as far, etc)
Alluded to white nurses not having the capacity to treat black people.
Claimed that taxi drivers were all racist
compared anti-semitism to the treatment that redheads get.
Said the offer to give Hong kong residents UK citizenships were driven by sinophobia (wtf does that even mean)
That's setting aside all the gaffes and feck ups shes made on interviews and TV.
Then you get the hypocrisy of her words, and the "Do as I say not as a I do", like attacking Harmon for sending her kids to a Grammar school, but then sending her own kids to private school. (Then in her defense of this, she made a racist comment)
There are so many things to dislike about her that have nothing to do with racism or prejudice and regardless of her race or ethnicity, I would want her nowhere near the Labour Party.
Oh - and she constantly makes suggestions and comments that it's the West's fault for the Ukraine war, and that Russia are the victim and that we should let Russia take Ukraine.
Absolute cnut.
She's an unhinged tankie. This is a person who :
Tried to justify Chairman Mao and said that Stalin did lots of great things.
Said that white mothers don't care about their children as much as Black mothers (or willing to go as far, etc)
Alluded to white nurses not having the capacity to treat black people.
Claimed that taxi drivers were all racist
compared anti-semitism to the treatment that redheads get.
Said the offer to give Hong kong residents UK citizenships were driven by sinophobia (wtf does that even mean)
That's setting aside all the gaffes and feck ups shes made on interviews and TV.
Then you get the hypocrisy of her words, and the "Do as I say not as a I do", like attacking Harmon for sending her kids to a Grammar school, but then sending her own kids to private school. (Then in her defense of this, she made a racist comment)
There are so many things to dislike about her that have nothing to do with racism or prejudice and regardless of her race or ethnicity, I would want her nowhere near the Labour Party.
Oh - and she constantly makes suggestions and comments that it's the West's fault for the Ukraine war, and that Russia are the victim and that we should let Russia take Ukraine.
Absolute cnut.
I'll bet my bottom dollar that she's cleverer than you.
I'm sorry but what the actual feck?
She was the candidate there last time. She is a really good economist. Her book is well worth reading, and she is absolutely the sort of MP Labour needs.
How does Neil Coyle get back in after racial abuse but Shaheen gets dropped?
Gonna need some ketchup on this
she’s already launched her official campaign and this is a monumental own goal if true
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Because (the right kind of) racial abuse is apparently more palatable for Starmer than people calling a spade a spade.
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Are you talking about previous election results? Because if you are I think it's a bit disingenuous to use a very skewed FPTP system as proof the public is centre right.
I'm also sure recent polls have shown a majority of the British public tends to actually support left wing policies, just as long as they aren't actually told they're left wing.
The Islamophobia point is wild given the content of the Forde Report. Even more so when their candidate for Barking said this:More info
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ck558ky6273o
The problem isn't that people don't want to vote for left wing politicians economically...it's that many of the left wing politicians have some very...esoteric world views that the average person cannot get behind.
Far left wing politicians think the world is full of rainbow farting unicorns. I feel like a lot of them have a disconnect with reality this is why especially whenever they get into power they go fecking mental. Their perception of the world is the only way forward in their minds and that's what turns them into general loonies. Of course I would love a leftist world where everyone got taken care of however the reality is that it ends up with everyone getting "taken care of".
Still no updates on Labour tracking down the 'shaking off the fleas' source. In completely unrelated news...
I wouldn't go as far as this but, Corbyn and Sanders had similar problems, but different in execution.
Corbyn's economic policies were actually pretty sound, until you then get to his worldview and foreign policy. Things like blaming the West for everything, being anti-Nato, being anti-Nuclear weapons, it's literally bad to the point of sabotage. Then you have all the associations with some genuine loonies.
What really made me not like Sanders were similar - naive foreign policy. I can give you examples in the area which I can comment on the most - his defense policies.
1. I do not know what reality Bernie Sanders lives in, but defense spending too high and out of control? Jesus, Western militaries are so underfunded it's actually causing huge problems to all the branches. There just isn't enough money being bought into branches and right now we are seeing cracks due to the long term abandonment of investment. The US defense budget is at historical lows, there have only been 5 years where it has been lower - 1997-2002, since 1939.
2. Iraq, yes. I do not see how the other three are ultimately relevant in today's world, other than you could argue we wouldn't have an Islamic government in Iran if 53 didn't happen.
3. It already does.
4. He rules out using military force to protect American energy trade routes...
5. This was popular at the time and it is now seen as a mistake.
6. Defense contracts have almost 0 influence on US foreign policy. This is twitter conspiracy theories he is buying into. There have been multiple independent audits into the Pentagon.
7. This is a valid point and something I agree with.
8. This too.
9. This too.
10. I don't feel strongly either way.
See, Sanders is the perfect example of why it's hard to get behind him. His economic policies are fantastic, then you get to his defense policies and foreign policies and you just think he hasn't got a clue.
Should we even be surprised at this point?
That's him in Parliament for the next 40 years then.
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