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[Unmutual]

Anyone else baffled by how little Brexit is being discussed with the election?

It's obviously being given plenty of airtime but it's not the 'brexit election' as I had expected. Likely largely because Labour don't know how to differentiate their position on it from the Tories, and Corbyn isn't comfortable discussing it, but I still find it odd. Maybe I'm just a bitter remoaner who can't get over losing...

I suppose the parties' positions on Brexit are pretty much clear and the debate's already been had. It makes me think there's not much movement to be had in this campaign, because no-ones arguing on the biggest topic. People like Theresa May and her approach to Brexit. Labour just want the whole thing to go away, UKIP are irrelevant and the Lib Dems aren't big enough to fire up the debate by themselves.

Reminds me of when you score 4 in the first half, then come out for the second half knowing the game is won. Maybe you'll keep a clean sheet, maybe the other side will put a bit of gloss on the scoresheet, but the basic issue is settled and so neither team really puts in a proper shift.

 

[PedroMendez]

well. the big questions/general course is already decided and it is difficult to discuss details, because they are up for grabs during the negotiation. The time to discuss brexit was before the referendum and shortly afterwards (until the Torries decided that leaving the single market is the way to go).

 

[horsechoker]

 

[rcoobc]

Spoiler: Old Campaign Posters

But my favourite has to be this one.

 

[Ubik]

Demon Eyes is hard to beat.

 

[Untied]

I like this one: The Conservatives openly admitting they are pricks.

 

[Unmutual]

The Tories were on a roll in the 80s.

Spoiler

 

[Unmutual]

I like this one: The Conservatives openly admitting they are pricks.

 

[Ubik]

This was effective last time

 

[Smores]

The Tories were on a roll in the 80s.

Spoiler

I like that

 

[Smores]

Corbyn and a few MPs pushed some very good quotes today about May hiding from the public after she shipped in activities and kicked out the workers.

Not often they manage the press message so well

 

[Untied]

Some of those Conservative posters are very good though. An election winning machine.

 

[Jippy]

 

[Ubik]

From '45

 

[Jippy]

From '45

Posters defo used to be better. Some of the WWII ones are amazing.

 

[Dobba]

Oh how so many wish Labour would go back to these electable days. Memories...

 

[Cheesy]

You can see the kid on the bottom right still wondering why they picked him of all people to be the Yvette Cooper stand-in lookalike.

 

[Untied]

I love how vague every promise was

An NHS with time to care ?

Controls on immigration ?

HOMES TO BUY ! ???

 

[Smores]

I can only imagine they saw that 2 mins before the event and thought....ah shit.

 

[Smores]

I love how vague every promise was

An NHS with time to care ?

Controls on immigration ?

HOMES TO BUY ! ???

Apart from living standards which they had to make sure it was they only want them for working families.

An NHS with time to care is catchy whatever the feck it means

 

[ThierryHenry]

I've met him a few times (Gordon Brown that is, met my dad many more times), as I've probably said on a few occasions here. When he was a politician he was really polite, even when he was PM. He was my local MP as well but I saw him at a lot of corporate events. As soon as he retired I saw him a few months later at an event and he was a total cockwomble.

Tell us more!

 

[Will Absolute]

Posters defo used to be better. Some of the WWII ones are amazing.

That's a great piece of propaganda.

Hitler's face is subtly retouched to look younger and more handsome. His expression is stern, resolute but a little soulful. He's wearing a uniform, the people in the background are wearing uniforms, but there are no guns!

The picture is grim, ominous, grey clouds lour overhead, but rays of heavenly light shine on Hitler. Is that bird the dove of peace, the eagle of war, the sweet bird of happiness? Who knows?

Is the message of the poster one of strength, a renewal of national pride or War?

 

[SteveJ]

Is that bird the dove of peace, the eagle of war, the sweet bird of happiness?

Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's Triumph of the Will Absolute.

 

[Will Absolute]

Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's Triumph of the Will Absolute.

I had nothing to do with it, Steve. I wasn't even born!

(My daddy is another matter though. But say no more about that!)

 

[Jippy]

That's a great piece of propaganda.

Hitler's face is subtly retouched to look younger and more handsome. His expression is stern, resolute but a little soulful. He's wearing a uniform, the people in the background are wearing uniforms, but there are no guns!

The picture is grim, ominous, grey clouds lour overhead, but rays of heavenly light shine on Hitler. Is that bird the dove of peace, the eagle of war, the sweet bird of happiness? Who knows?

Is the message of the poster one of strength, a renewal of national pride or War?

It's the eagle soaring high, flying in with the heavenly light.

 

[Ubik]

Currently on the BBC homepage

 

[SteveJ]

Adolf looks like Daniel Plainview, with lighting by Caspar Friedrich.

 

[ThierryHenry]

Oh Ed.

 

[Dan]

 

[rcoobc]

Aside from the occasional cuts to disabled people, I love George Osbourne

 

[Dan]

Nuttall to stand in Boston and Skegness.

 

[Kentonio]

What's George Osbourne doing on Arsenal TV?

 

[SteveJ]

"I say - you there. May I see the wine list?"

 

[Ubik]

This is surprising and makes me feel dirty for agreeing with the rag (headline).

 

[Kentonio]

The odds on Theresa May pissing off a group that overwhelmingly go out to vote to please a group that traditionally don't, must be vanishingly small.

 

[Jippy]

This is surprising and makes me feel dirty for agreeing with the rag (headline).

The Sun talking sense for once.

 

[NinjaFletch]

The odds on Theresa May pissing off a group that overwhelmingly go out to vote to please a group that traditionally don't, must be vanishingly small.

Even then, the electoral maths sucks for 18-24s. The 65+ demographic is simply too large.

 

[Ubik]

They wouldn't be doing it for electoral reasons, ditto with the supposed tax rises. Strange situation when Labour are attacking them from the right.

 

[Kentonio]

They wouldn't be doing it for electoral reasons, ditto with the supposed tax rises.

They'll probably just do what they always do, and promise to keep it safe using some vague wording they can wriggle out of later. May already started the other day, talking about how they definitely absolutely wouldn't change it before 2020!

 

[Dobba]

"Controversial 'clear air' plan, like to include a declaration of war on 12 million drivers of diesel cars, vans and cabs based on disputable pollution figures"