As a life long Labour voter, member up until October last year I have to vote Lib Dem. Have to. Only party standing on an unequivocally pro-EU, anti-hard brexit platform.
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So can the Lib Dems get big gains as the only party (alongside SNP) promising to block BREXIT? Can BREXIT be blocked now Article 50 has been triggered?
Parties have local offices where you can volunteer. All the info is on their websites.
You do know you can vote throughout the day and not just in the morning right?
Of course.
But the SNP was quite transparent about it, in their manifesto and after May's stubborness and ignorance of Scottish concerns.I agree with your sentiment, but it really depends on your constituency though.
Yep. The Tories have called this right and will get an increased majority and a larger mandate.
There is no serious opposition atm. Which is bad, obviously, no matter who you 'support'.
Thats Corbyn fecked
Should, but wont.
And a lot of Labour MP's will be out of a job May 9th. All good then.
You should vote for whichever non-tory party is more likely to win your seat. Its that simple
Depends who you are. The speech seems to have gone down well with the brexit junkies.
Its this sort of defeatist attitude that will allow them back in
I reckon a lot of people are going to struggle with their long-term allegiances given the showers of shit in red and blue.
Any chance that Labour, Lib Dems and SNP could win enoug seats to hold the Hard Brexiteers at bay?
That won't stop them.
A swing to the Lib Dems and any kind of swing back to Labour could feck things up for the Tories.
Think Corbyn could do better than expected in an election campaign, may claw back some wavering Labour voters. But the Tories may well have a lot of attack material stored up.
I think Brexiters set the template for what to do when you don't get your way.
To get the Tories out. Protest votes happen all the time.
From last week's voting intention figures
44% - Conservatives
23% - Labour
12% - Liberal Democrats
10% - UKIP
10% - other parties
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/04/17/voting-intention-conservatives-44-labour-23-12-13-/
44% - Conservatives
23% - Labour
12% - Liberal Democrats
10% - UKIP
10% - other parties
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/04/17/voting-intention-conservatives-44-labour-23-12-13-/
As someone who strongly dislikes Corbyn do you reckon Brexit as an issue will override any concerns on Corbyn?
I can't see many voting on any other issue than Brexit terms.
Those on the left of Labour, those who want brexit but not a hard one. Those who don't think Dim Tim is any better than Corbyn. Those in seats between Labour and Tories.
Plenty of reasons for plenty of people really.
UKIP @ 10%, they've been more of a shambles than Labour recently.
The Lib Dems are the worst. Firstly, they have no chance of even becoming the second largerst party. All they're doing is trying to gain votes on the back of Brexit discontent. It's political la la land.
If labour campaign on soft brexit, the promise to cut a norway style deal I think they could do well.
May's lot have already admitted even with hard brexit immigration won't go down and may even rise, so they cannot play the free movement card effectively with anyone.
Most who voted out I know don't want to lose access to free trade, and for me, I voted remain but know we can;t just ignore the result, so I want the best outcome possible given we voted out. That is retaining membership of the free trade zone. I think it would play well, in contrast to the pie in the sky nonsense of worldwide deals (what has been stopping us this lat 40 years if they are all out there?) to replace 54% of our overseas trade.
May's lot have already admitted even with hard brexit immigration won't go down and may even rise, so they cannot play the free movement card effectively with anyone.
Most who voted out I know don't want to lose access to free trade, and for me, I voted remain but know we can;t just ignore the result, so I want the best outcome possible given we voted out. That is retaining membership of the free trade zone. I think it would play well, in contrast to the pie in the sky nonsense of worldwide deals (what has been stopping us this lat 40 years if they are all out there?) to replace 54% of our overseas trade.
Conservatives will take 80 seats from Labour. The Lib Dems will take 20 seats from the Conservatives. May get a majority of 100 and the threat of the right wing nutters diluted
Labour are pro brexit in general but very much anti hard brexit. Staunchly against leaving the single market so they will campaign on that and give the people a final say on the deal theough parliament or directly.
If they collaborate in certain areas where there's small conservative majorities they can do more than that.
Of course we have to factor in the outcome of the French election too. That could influence voters in Britain.
I suppose if you happen to be a tory cnut
I'm not sure how you've come to that conclusion.
If Clegg had only now become Lib Dem leader, without having been deputy pm or associated with the coalition, I could have seen them becoming the 2nd biggest party.
The debate here has gotten so insular I doubt anyone will care.
I will vote the Lib dems. I am anti Brexit but I can't stand the commie
Traditional "protest-votes" are not to the 2nd main party... more to BNP, UKIP, SNP, etc
If you want a soft brexit, a vote for Labour is a good choice. But equally, giving T May a bigger mandate could allow her to deliver a softer brexit
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39627859
Dim Tim is no better than Corbyn, except if you want a pro-EU stance
Those in between Labour and Tories should vote for the Lib Dems, as that is where they traditionally are
That's good because the commie is pro-brexit
If there's a housing crash. Otherwise the tories only increase their share.