Even if I could (I don't have a postal vote in either and can't drive to the other) or was ethically ok with doing it it wouldn't make a difference given how safe a Conservative seat one of them is.
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Even if I could (I don't have a postal vote in either and can't drive to the other) or was ethically ok with doing it it wouldn't make a difference given how safe a Conservative seat one of them is.
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Well, two out of the nine NHS community nurses my wife works with are voting Labour. Hope that helps your hope.
Are you really surprised? People are starting to experience genuinely life changing conservative policies that are leaving them desperate for basics like food or keeping a roof over their head. They see a party that not only doesn't give a single feck about them, but wants to continue to cut more and more of the lifelines that keep them and their families afloat. They look ahead to a Tory future and they see an underfunded NHS and schools forced into various degrees of privatisation and an endless slide towards a life where if you're not wealthy you simply don't matter. Oh and if they complain, they're either called marxists who want a free ride, or told by people who inherited vast wealth that the reason they can't feed their kids is because they're lazy moochers.
If you think things are getting savage now, you really don't want to see Britain in 5 years time if the Tories win.
Pm'd
"Diane Abbott has been diagnosed with “a serious, long-term condition”, Barry Gardiner, the shadow international trade secretary, has told the Huffington Post."
my gf who's been a long time labour member and follows politics closely suspects Diane Abbott has Alzheimer's. First time i heard her say that was a few weeks ago. Regardless of what her medical condition is, the reactions of social media have been malicious and disgraceful.
I know. Dont know what it says about her as a serious candidate
I was just talking to my neighbour. He said that he had a letter from May saying that she needed to scrap our Human Rights to fight terror.
I said that they will bring it in under the guise of defending us then use it against us.
He replied that they have to do something.
I said we have courts in this country. Go to the courts and get a warrant for surveillance on suspected terrorists then you can look at their internet traffic and tap their phones all you want. We don't need to give the Government powers to circumvent the the courts.
Her sky news interview yesterday was horrible.
My worst day at work, i asked my girlfriend to stay up with me (shed come back from a crazy long shift) as i just needed to close my eyes and destress with someone who is on my side.
Diane Abbott has had a lot of bad days recently and gets a lot more stick than me.
Let's have a little mock-betting competition where we each try to call how many seats each party will get. Do you think I could get away with starting a new thread for it?
Just because they work in the NHS doesn't mean they can't stupid.
My mum works for the NHS and she too had made stupid assumptions about the strain on the NHS. 'Can't cope, too many foreigners', that despite her telling me every other week about all the cost cutting exercises they were going through.
Thankfully, she ended up voting Labour yesterday without any convincing.
Imagine actually wanting to vote for a government that wants to do these things.
There's no undo button on these things.
Tell me !!
I don't vote, of course, but if I was, I'd break the habit of a lifetime and vote Tory.
Everything you say is absolutely why I've always been left-of-centre. But to me the BIGGEST problem for the UK over the next few years is the eventual state of the UK after the UK leaves the EU.
Get BREXIT wrong, and all the problems you're describing will be even more so and even worse....Even more devisive....
Much as I dislike May and many members of her cabinet, it seems to me that they are preferable to a coalition of Labour/LibDen/SNP, all of whom don't want the UK out of the EU, and so don't have the determination or the enthusiasm to make sure the UK doesn't get absolutely, totally screwed by the EU.
Labour or LibDem next time, perhaps, has to be the sensible way forward for the UK - but not this time....
Well, this isn't even close to the truth.
Whilst anecdotal, the arguments I am seeing all over the internet in favour of a Conservative vote actually relate to foreign policy and domestic terrorism. Overwhelmingly so.
Outside of this thread, I've not even seen a hint of the bolded train of thought anywhere. I simply don't believe if anyone tried to articulate that message even half as well that they would be met with a torrent of abuse. Leave the hyperbole at the door next time you enter the thread.
I hope Abbott makes a full recovery from whatever illness she has, I don't mean to sound disrespectful but she really isn't up to the job and if I lived in England she'd almost put me off voting Labour.
I use a personal hotmail.
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Hotmail ain't bad. I have 1 of those but my main one is my gmail.
That's fine (assuming true, which it looks like it is). The tweet yesterday was fake.
I've had
2009 Kent Local Election
2009 EU MEP Elections (closed list)
2010 General Election
2011 AV Referendum (lost)
2012 Kent Police Crime Commissioner
2013 Kent Local Election
2014 EU MEP Elections (closed list)
2015 General Election
2016 Kent Police Crime Commissioner (didn't vote, turnout was like 20%)
2016 EU Referendum (lost)
never had a candidate I've voted for elected.
No Taxation without Proportional Representation.
2009 Kent Local Election
2009 EU MEP Elections (closed list)
2010 General Election
2011 AV Referendum (lost)
2012 Kent Police Crime Commissioner
2013 Kent Local Election
2014 EU MEP Elections (closed list)
2015 General Election
2016 Kent Police Crime Commissioner (didn't vote, turnout was like 20%)
2016 EU Referendum (lost)
never had a candidate I've voted for elected.
No Taxation without Proportional Representation.
Not a problem socially, but as a candidate for parliament, I expect a little more. She could get a nice "Labour@LabourCandidate.co.uk" email for like £6 a yearI use a personal hotmail.
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Why ?
This is the guy who said he knew for certain Corbyn voted out in the referendum. He talks a incredible amount of shite.
Anyway we'll just have to wait and see, I guess.
I know. My major concern with leaving the EU was that as soon as we were out the Tories would scrap our Human Rights and Workers Rights. The first part is coming to fruition the second wont be far behind.
Good negotiation requires good will on both sides, or for one party to have such a strong position that they can apply enough pressure to basically force the other to comply with their demands. The UK certainly doesn't have the latter, and the Tories have done everything in their power to piss off the European leaders they would be negotiating with. If the UK walks into those talks with their noses in the air and a superior attitude they're going to get met with hostility and the EU will use its economic superiority to drive the hardest bargain possible. I have no idea why people think a hardline approach from us is a good idea, its a recipe for absolute disaster.
Yep, they are Using Brexit & Terrorism as a guise for what they want to achieve while in power.
Privatisation & continuing to sell off homes to the highest foreign bidder will come soon after.
I thought Lord Sugar was a big Labour supporter? What's happened there
Protecting his own interests? Higher corporation and top bracket tax plans would hurt his lavish holiday plans, I suppose.
Selfishness, in my opinion. Although it's being spun as him being an example to follow.
Leave the hyperbole at the door next time you enter the thread.
This thread is 95% pro Labour hyperbole.
Poor punctuation, "a" instead of "an", hashtag in block capitals, makes shit computers. You get a "Try Harder" sticker, Alan...
He left Labour because he thought the direction it took under Miliband was too anti-business, so he's unlikely to have been won back by Corbyn.
Hope Jez fires him ion winning.
If you think its bad now wait for all the bitterness and nastiness that will be unleashed on the 9th when people wake up to 5 more years of May
Not sure what is particularly important about this cheque. He's paying his taxes, good for him, as he should. Incredibly wealthy man who will never have to suffer due to a Tory government.
I guess the point is, he loves that he pays a lot of tax. He dislikes the general direction Corbyn is leading us in.
Which is fair enough really.
Supporting a Party isn't the same as supporting a football team, you should change your mind as the facts change.
I'm a member of Labour voting for the Lib Dems in this election. Think Corbyn's plans for Brexit alongside such an 'ambitious' manifesto would only result in disaster for the country's economy. Apologies if you think that makes me a selfish cnut.
What's wrong with ambitious? Is it that another aspect of society might drop down as a result of investment in things currently being neglected, such as the NHS/Policing?
If there was an area of society you would NOT want on it's arse, it would be that, right? So if ambitious means we fail elsewhere, at least it might not cost/impact as many lives?
Very simplistic, I know, but if one of the governments is going to rob Peter to pay Paul, I'd rather Paul = Useful shit.
'Honest graft? Sugar's products I bought usually fell apart before long.
Alan Sugar loves paying tax is an argument I'm struggling with a tiny bit, tbh.
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/...Life-sweet-Lord-Sugar-pays-181m-dividend.html
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/...Life-sweet-Lord-Sugar-pays-181m-dividend.html