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How do you intend to vote in the 2017 General Election if eligible?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 80 14.5%

  • Labour

    Votes: 322 58.4%

  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 57 10.3%

  • Green

    Votes: 20 3.6%

  • SNP

    Votes: 13 2.4%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 29 5.3%

  • Independent

    Votes: 3 0.5%

  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 2 0.4%

  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 11 2.0%

  • Other (UUP, DUP, BNP, and anyone else I have forgotten)

    Votes: 14 2.5%
  • Total voters
    551
  • Poll closed .
altodevil86 said:
Sounds more and more like a massive Tory win. According to canvassers no Labour seat is really safe. Scary.

Who's staying up on the night? I usually do, but if the Tories get a good exit poll I'll be off to bed.
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Given the state of the respective campaigns, my prediction would see the result fall in a range of -10 to +15 in terms of the Conservative tally. Labour recognised the value of positivity in its message, whereas May has adopted a spirit of 'take your medicine'.

During the 2005 election i knew that Labour would maintain a healthy majority, however my local constituency was genuinely up for grabs so there was still the potential for a personal victory if you will. The Government was increasingly unpopular at the time, while i was young and rather...reactionary.

Yes, i'll be here, although an exit poll with a Corbyn overall majority might lead me to reach for the brandy.
 
esmufc07 said:
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This can't be true.
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Shes almost our trump
 
Nogbadthebad said:
Was this the tweet that claimed they were modelling something daft like 80 or 90% under 30 turnout?

Yeah, that was crap being made up, which is why its been deleted.
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Crap, I passed that on to people at work! What's the real figure?
 
If YouGov's model is correct I will jizz more than wr8 did during the Sneijder summer.
 
montpelier said:
They're just JobCentrePlus Offices now - you can't even chase the ££££ side of things up from them anymore most / sometimes - if your just turning up with a query on a non job interview day, security are known to turn people away, the offices have targets for imposing sanctions on people apparently. Apart from that, it's really good idea.

There used to be things called crisis loans which were repayable from benefit but they were done away with to streamline the system or something. It's all online & by phone now, a lot of the actual claiming process - streamlining again.

Some good ideas, except it isn't either/and obviously, now people can't even pursue an idea of the progress of a claim without inconvenience & cost probably.

But these are just people at the bottom, who gives a feck? And when that attitude spreads, who gives a feck about that either, just people at the bottom, innit.
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IIRC, my first DLA was backdated by three months. This was prior to the crash and later austerity mind you, but bridging that lag time seems to have been an issue for a while. If such is an unavoidable consequence of processing, we need to contrive an interim measure in line with modern society.

The Conservative manifesto also says that they will continue the 'housing first' pilots for homelessness prevention, which should also help. Although maybe we should be past the pilot stage by now.
 
We've repeatedly been told Corbyn is a complete non-entity when it comes to British politics. In completely unrelated news, suddenly the arms dealing vicar's daughter believes "tough conversations are required" over funding of extremism. Which the non-entity definitely didn't say in a speech the other day and is also not in his party's manifesto.
 
Sick of both Labour and the Tories, regardless of who gets in it'll just be the same old problems.
 
Acole9 said:
Sick of both Labour and the Tories, regardless of who gets in it'll just be the same old problems.
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Care to elaborate on which problems those are?

Now more than ever before there are stark differences between the two parties. This Labour manifesto is much farther left than anything I've seen in my lifetime from either of the big two.
 
Anyone seen the stuff about what's going on in Bradford West? Seems pretty grim (thread)



At a hustings recently, after Shah had defended the right of Israel to exist, part of the audience started chanted "jew, jew, jew" at her.
 
Rolandofgilead said:
Yeah you're not wrong, i am in the south Dorset constituency and Richard Drax is a dreadful human being, but it's a true blue area so he will definitely win on Thursday.
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Same for North Dorset here, the MP is a total cnut who's not even from the area, but it's one of the safest seats around. I see plenty of conservatives signs everywhere I go and have never seen a Labour or LD sign anywhere. Even UKIP finished second here last time :rolleyes: but I haven't seen a UKIP sign anywhere this time around either.
 
ClutchHunter said:
Care to elaborate on which problems those are?

Now more than ever before there are stark differences between the two parties. This Labour manifesto is much farther left than anything I've seen in my lifetime from either of the big two.
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Every election it's the same. They all say a load of stuff to get peoples attention to vote for them and never actually carry any of it out. Corbyn's manifesto, how are they going to pay for all that without putting the country into masses of debt? As for the Tories, this election has been put together as one massive ego trip for May, she thinks she's going to get a huge landslide but the way things have been going (not showing up to the debates, backtracking on dementia and cuts to our emergency services) I'm at a loss as to why anyone would vote for that party.
 
Ubik said:
Anyone seen the stuff about what's going on in Bradford West? Seems pretty grim (thread)



At a hustings recently, after Shah had defended the right of Israel to exist, part of the audience started chanted "jew, jew, jew" at her.
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Thats just Bradford West for you, they should let Trump tour the area it would blow his mind.
 
Nogbadthebad said:
I've taken a look, it seems they are using 63%, which is the number they are getting as 'certain to vote' from the age group.

http://survation.com/conservative-lead-labour-dropped-16-points-month-whats-going/
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So you're talking about the latest Survation poll? It has 82% of 18-24s at 10/10 certain to vote in it - http://survation.com/wp-content/upl...2017-V-Tables-020617TOCH-1c1d0h3-microage.pdf

All of their numbers are too high, points towards a sample that's too politically engaged (the same problem as 2015).
 
Just saw this in an above link. Isn't this really really good for Labour? Why aren't more people talking about this?
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altodevil86 said:
Just saw this in an above link. Isn't this really really good for Labour? Why aren't more people talking about this?
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290,000 (or 400,000 under 35) young people? That's not a huge number, and you also have to consider where those people live.

If you assume they're clustered in university towns and cities then it's not particularly useful for Labour.
 
ThierryHenry said:
290,000 (or 400,000 under 35) young people? That's not a huge number, and you also have to consider where those people live.

If you assume they're clustered in university towns and cities then it's not particularly useful for Labour.
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I thought the whole idea was that because it's in June and not May then there will be more students at home?
 
ThierryHenry said:
290,000 (or 400,000 under 35) young people? That's not a huge number, and you also have to consider where those people live.

If you assume they're clustered in university towns and cities then it's not particularly useful for Labour.
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I can't believe they're posting that table as "registrations to vote", it's APPLICATIONS to register. Since January, there have been 4.5m applications to register, yet there's only 1.1m more people registered to vote in that time.
 
Acole9 said:
Every election it's the same. They all say a load of stuff to get peoples attention to vote for them and never actually carry any of it out. Corbyn's manifesto, how are they going to pay for all that without putting the country into masses of debt? As for the Tories, this election has been put together as one massive ego trip for May, she thinks she's going to get a huge landslide but the way things have been going (not showing up to the debates, backtracking on dementia and cuts to our emergency services) I'm at a loss as to why anyone would vote for that party.
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Please just read the Labour Party manifesto.....as Jeremy has said time and time again, it is ALL fully-costed and has been given the backing of over 100 (think it's 138) leading economists. I realise that the Tories have kept banging on and on about 'magic money tree's' etc...but actually it's not that hard...Labour are saying that in the main they will pay for the implementation of these policies by raising Corporation Tax and an increase on tax for those earning about £85K

Yes I agree Corbyn's manifesto is ambitious and no I do not believe that every single one of his manifesto pledges will be delivered in full but at least they seem to understand what the people they represent care about and have a plan. What do the Tories stand for? They are drifting further and further right for no apparent good reason
 
I am furious about the Conservatives using the attacks in London and Manchester recently for political gain. To keep implying that somehow a vote for Corybn enables these people or risks our national security is a dirty, dirty trick even for them

Surely even hardcore Conservatives must realise that telling people to vote for them or face being slaughtered in the streets is just beyond deplorable. What kind of democracy do we live in when our Government use fear and intimidation to enforce more misery on their electorate?
 
Was this posted in full here? I've been busy lately. This is full of journos with questions. Am I right to assume she dodged them all?
 
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