I've got a funny feeling Cambridge Analytica are behind the Tory Propaganda Machine. Mercer did his work with the two leave campaigns and he's now working on the Tories.
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I've got a funny feeling Cambridge Analytica are behind the Tory Propaganda Machine. Mercer did his work with the two leave campaigns and he's now working on the Tories.
Worth saying that Ashcroft is doing a similar seat modelling projection, and is coming up with estimates between 80-160 seat majorities for the Tories 
And they were both wrong in 2015. Feck knows anymore.
And they were both wrong in 2015. Feck knows anymore.New poll. Taken from another forum.
YouGov/Times VI poll (conducted over the last week)
Con 42 (-1)
Lab 38 (+2)
LD 9 (nc)
UKIP 4 (nc)
Changes from their Sunday Times poll.
YouGov/Times VI poll (conducted over the last week)
Con 42 (-1)
Lab 38 (+2)
LD 9 (nc)
UKIP 4 (nc)
Changes from their Sunday Times poll.
As a renter, I think a Land Value Tax is great. Even if I end up paying it through increased rent, put the burden on the owner!
Interesting...
The pound is falling!
Tories aren't going to lose seats. They'll gain quite a lot. I imagine what the seat projection will do though is scare a few who were on the fence into voting for Conservatives to avoid the coalition of chaos.
Nice thought though seeing some of the polls recently.
Nice thought though seeing some of the polls recently.
Very good that
It would be helpful if they gave some idea of the value of the y axis.
Edit - Damien's on it.
I still think they'll gain and that the projections are wrong, but I don't think they're that wrong. She'll maybe end up with a 20-30 seat majority. And that's if things stay like they are at the moment. Corbyn's got the momentum and may continue to gain.
Even smaller over the past year...
Still funny that a single poll can move it like that.
Tories will definitely gain seats. No chance they lose any.
I'm thinking 40-50 odd seats gained, but hoping that the figure is closer to 20-30. Anything that undermines May (which is any result bar a landslide) is good.
I'm thinking 40-50 odd seats gained, but hoping that the figure is closer to 20-30. Anything that undermines May (which is any result bar a landslide) is good.
Whilst we are looking at such a beautiful graph showing the collapse of the pound after the Brexit vote, let us not forget that people tried to claim that the Brexit vote was good the markets because the FTSE 100 rose, proving that many leavers are financially illiterate.Even smaller over the past year...
Still funny that a single poll can move it like that.
AXA Japan Fund grew after the Brexit referendum.... Why, because they are trading with the UK and UK parts are now cheaper? Err, no, it's a foreign asset, and we are measuring in pounds, so it became more expensive to buy.
Same with Korea
Same with Africa
And yes, same with the FTSE 100. The FTSE 100 contains companies like Shell, HSBC, BP, etc. Companies that have virtually all their assets outside of the UK, and those assets became much more valuable when measured in pounds post Brexit.
FTSE 100 when measured in USD however, performed much more poorly.
Likewise, the FTSE 250 when measured in GBP has risen constantly. The assets the companies hold outside of the UK are enough to give it a boost.
But when measured in USD, the FTSE 250 performed more poorly.
Add a falling pound to years of QE and anyone in Britain with assets has done very well financially. I've gained personally but if the under 30s aren't happy about it I don't blame them for a minute.
Just another way brexit gave the older generation a boost and scewed over the youth. A 55 year old with a globally weighted pension pot got a nice 20% boost at just the right time. Whilst the 25 year olds get rising fuel and food costs from the falling pound
The old have also seen their savings eroded by ZRP. Old people don't face rising costs too?
In general yes, but I wouldn't put so much emphasis on Brexit, but more to reaction to the financial crash of 2008. If governments had decided to inflate their way out of debt (which I erroneously expected) then asset holders would have lost out, but instead governments decided to print money to keep interest rates on that debt affordable. Not good for the long term I feel, or I might be talking bollocks, it's late after all.
QUOTE="Jippy, post: 20979113, member: 47548"]The old have also seen their savings eroded by ZRP. Old people don't face rising costs too?[/QUOTE]
Of course they do, but the youth have come off of a decade of high youth unemployment, low wages, high rent and high house prices.
When an older gen gets into financial distress, they could lose their home. Which of course is shocking and horrible. But when a younger gen gets into distress, they dont have a home to lose.
Note - im not saying everything is the fault of the over 50 year olds, just that without a doubt the youth are being hardest hit. They didnt vote for brexit, but will have it forced upon them. They didn't vote for the tories but will have thatbforced upon them too. The way this country treats our elderly is quite shocking, but that's another problem
Of course they do, but the youth have come off of a decade of high youth unemployment, low wages, high rent and high house prices.
When an older gen gets into financial distress, they could lose their home. Which of course is shocking and horrible. But when a younger gen gets into distress, they dont have a home to lose.
Note - im not saying everything is the fault of the over 50 year olds, just that without a doubt the youth are being hardest hit. They didnt vote for brexit, but will have it forced upon them. They didn't vote for the tories but will have thatbforced upon them too. The way this country treats our elderly is quite shocking, but that's another problem
Well, not really a surprise, but...
Complete rubbish though. Hundreds of thousands have lost their jobs in the finance industry and bonuses/pay rises are almost non existent relative to pre recession. Still, the truth doesn't make for such a good youtube clip.
Hundreds of thousands?
It's also a twitter poll and not worth the pixels it's taking up.
OK
Roughly 200,000 redundancies from the UK banks since the recession.
That's not counting this last year where there have been more big cuts, or non-bank financial services companies.
Is this their first time doing an election ? The Survation poll has the young turnout at around 80% which seems completely overboard.
Yep I predict Tory gains.
Parliament's aren't hung and witches ain't hanged. More's the pity.
Parliament's aren't hung and witches ain't hanged. More's the pity.
I understand why a lot of you are sceptical about the polls but I also think you underestimate the effect the Labour manifesto is having on people coupled with the shambles over in the Conservative camp and May's piss poor performance.
If the EU referendum is anything to go by it showed that people voting in this country do not give two shits about the economy or the stability of this country so the Cons can bang on all they want with their misleading claims about Labour bankrupting the country previously its bot getting any traction with voters.
In the EU referendum I was certain remain was going to win, it was unthinkable for it not to. However all ai could see online was a massive support for leave. People arguing left right and centre for it. I can see the same now for Labour and Corbyn. People are starting to see through the media propaganda and are warming to him as a person and the Labour policies. If this measure is anything to go by then my £200 on 10/1 Labour most seats is banker
But seriously, I was an absolute Corbyn hater. It's well documented on this forums but I really do think he's pulled it out of the bag with this election. He's woncme over and he's really struck a cord with people who can see that the Conservative way is not what this country needs and that Theresa May is as strong and stable as the Millenium Bridge. The Tories made a miscalculation thinking they could fight this election on Brexit alone and it's why Labour are reaping the rewards.
If the EU referendum is anything to go by it showed that people voting in this country do not give two shits about the economy or the stability of this country so the Cons can bang on all they want with their misleading claims about Labour bankrupting the country previously its bot getting any traction with voters.
In the EU referendum I was certain remain was going to win, it was unthinkable for it not to. However all ai could see online was a massive support for leave. People arguing left right and centre for it. I can see the same now for Labour and Corbyn. People are starting to see through the media propaganda and are warming to him as a person and the Labour policies. If this measure is anything to go by then my £200 on 10/1 Labour most seats is banker
But seriously, I was an absolute Corbyn hater. It's well documented on this forums but I really do think he's pulled it out of the bag with this election. He's woncme over and he's really struck a cord with people who can see that the Conservative way is not what this country needs and that Theresa May is as strong and stable as the Millenium Bridge. The Tories made a miscalculation thinking they could fight this election on Brexit alone and it's why Labour are reaping the rewards.
May's cronies have infiltrated the Caf! Boo!!
Really is tiresome now listening to the same old Tory rhetoric. As I've said before, Gardiner has been impressive in this election.
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I took the political compass test again last night and was watching some of Owen jones' videos. Now this nightmare in the morning.
At least I know they're wasting their money targeting adverts on me when I won't change my vote.
Did that cover the May porn story?