Forget nuclear or fracking, we'd be able to power the nation for the next decade just on boiled Tory piss
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Coalition of Chaos
2017
The Communist Party - Scottish Nazis
Liberal Donkeys - Eat Your Greens
Gallwch Drosi Hyn I Mi
2017
The Communist Party - Scottish Nazis
Liberal Donkeys - Eat Your Greens
Gallwch Drosi Hyn I Mi
Oh god
Genuinely think we'd get another election within a few months if that was the seat count, reckon the Tories would axe May and install someone less weird.
Yep, after May a normal, reasonable person like Boris Johnson, Jacob Rees-Mogg or Michael Gove would probably do the trick.
It'd still be a disaster, though. Another election, during Article 50, would start to make the whole thing seem like a completely shambolic process.
Skeletor would be a coup after he's starred in those MoneySupermarket adverts recently.
Forget nuclear or fracking, we'd be able to power the nation for the next decade just on boiled Tory piss
Forget nuclear or fracking, we'd be able to power the nation for the next decade just on boiled Tory piss
During his first speech as PM, Corbyn accidentally refers to McDonnell as one of the Sinn Fein MP's.
Yeah very decent chance the Tories would get punished again and Corb would rule. Never thought I'd be considering that even a couple of weeks ago!
He does have more of a human touch, and would be a tough negotiator for Brexit.
It'd genuinely be fascinating to see what'd happen on a second vote. In some respects the Tories might benefit because any coalition would seem almost absurd - the 'coalition of chaos' comment would almost prove semi-correct, although it'd be dismantled before causing any actual chaos.
Still though, Corbyn would have all the momentum going into any second vote, would already presumably be PM, and the Tories would be in disarray - they're good at uniting in times of strife but a leadership contest then an election right away would prove difficult for them.
But I also think there'd be a shockingly low turnout, and naturally the Tories would benefit from that.
A coalition such as that would either lead to a riot or a sharp rise in English nationalism (possibly both). It'll be off with May's head for sure, and a vengeful Tory Party would be returned within one term aided by the state of the economy. With luck, we could start living again come 2027.
Sure, they could go with someone even less comfortable in their skin like Gove, or they could send out Boris Johnson and hope no one notices he's an oaf.Oh god
Genuinely think we'd get another election within a few months if that was the seat count, reckon the Tories would axe May and install someone less weird.
PLAN - enact PR and announce a second election to be run on it
I realised having only recently been arsed about politics, what does it mean then if the Tories are short of a majority?
I mean, they're gonna win annoyingly but what does that mean exactly?
I mean, they're gonna win annoyingly but what does that mean exactly?
I wonder what David Cameron's numbers look like now.
To be fair I don't think anyone would suspect such a coalition to last more than ten minutes: the SNP would demand a referendum, Sinn Fein would demand one, the Lib Dems would expect a much more centrist economic policy than Corbyn is comfortable with, and Plaid would probably want something nice and cuddly for Wales. But it'd be funny to see it happen even symbolically, and would certainly result in another election which would be incredibly damaging for the Tories in regards to their Brexit plans.
Other parties could try to work together and form a government - would be tenuous and unlikely to work, though.
PLAN - enact PR and announce a second election to be run on it
fecking hell, could you imagine if they actually got that through?
I'm way more entertained by the prospect of all this than I reasonably should be. If it all goes tits up we've got a few months more of free movement right enough...might just move while I can...
Not sure if this has been covered in this thread but Corbyn might also be appearing tomorrow on the leaders debate, again exposing Her Royal Strong and Stable Highness.
Got 3/4 through last night's "Q&As". Has to be said that Jeremy is a really strong campaigner. I've accepted that I'm not where he is on the Labour Party spectrum but he's done a brilliant job through the election, and he continued that last night. He was warm, confident and looked at ease in the face of a dreadful showing from Paxman. If it's a close election it will be in large part because he's won over so many people who had been caught up in the propaganda of the last two years. Well done to him.
May... I'm sure it's all been said really. She's just fecking dreadful. Looked unconfident and uncomfortable during the audience questions, and I can't believe she'll have won over any voters last night. But surely this was the danger all along... a campaign focused on May's strength of personality that wouldn't trust her with any unvetted public access. This was a bubble that was always going to burst. Dreadful campaign.
May... I'm sure it's all been said really. She's just fecking dreadful. Looked unconfident and uncomfortable during the audience questions, and I can't believe she'll have won over any voters last night. But surely this was the danger all along... a campaign focused on May's strength of personality that wouldn't trust her with any unvetted public access. This was a bubble that was always going to burst. Dreadful campaign.
He should do so now - with these figures he can turn up, and try to highlight May's weakness for not turning up. The other parties will largely gang up on Rudd as well, so has some potential to go well.
Maybe the Tories could try Jeremy Hunt, and hope the country forgets how badly he handled the NHS. Andrea Leadsome maybe, and gaffe tape her mouth so she doesn't dig herself a hole all the way to Australia. Or they could always go with Jacob Rees-Mogg, and remind everyone they're the perfect party for 18th century aristocrats.
Woeful arrogance from the start, aye. All based on the presumption she'd win no matter what, irrespective of how shite her campaign was.
Again, as I said last night - if she's so insistent that Corbyn is 'dangerous,' then she had a perfectly valid way to deny him office until the Brexit process was completed. A process which involved...not calling a general election.
Alas, loads of Labour backbenchers don't want PR so wouldn't happen, but still I can dreamfecking hell, could you imagine if they actually got that through?
I'm way more entertained by the prospect of all this than I reasonably should be. If it all goes tits up we've got a few months more of free movement right enough...might just move while I can...
PLAN - enact PR and announce a second election to be run on it
Yes please!He's scheduled to be at a rally here in Bristol tomorrow evening.
Personally, I hope he reconsiders. As long as he doesn't send in Abbott though, the damage will be small.
If we get a hung parliament how long before the next election and would the Tories realistically have time for the needed leadership change?Oh god
Genuinely think we'd get another election within a few months if that was the seat count, reckon the Tories would axe May and install someone less weird.
Thornberry is the one supposedly going to be there if it isn't Corbyn.
Eh...could be worse, I guess.
A few days ago, the mother of a Jewish friend of mine said that she would feel like curling into a ball if Corbyn won, through despair and fear. I'm starting to get a little concerned myself, albeit more generally focused. Jeremy can have his moral victory instead, and significantly reduce May's hoped for majority (the latter being no bad thing really).
It's all right for you, if the SNP win the second Indy Ref Corbyn can be told to piss off in short order.
A few days ago, the mother of a Jewish friend of mine said that she would feel like curling into a ball if Corbyn won, through despair and fear. I'm starting to get a little concerned myself, albeit more generally focused. Jeremy can have his moral victory instead, and significantly reduce May's hoped for majority (the latter being no bad thing really).
It's all right for you, if the SNP win the second Indy Ref Corbyn can be told to piss off in short order.
Labour have had certain problems with anti-semitism under Corbyn, but I'm not sure it'd be a particularly prevalent problem - Corbyn himself has condemned anti-semitism, and the Labour party as a whole (including MP's etc) are very pro-Israel.
They could just do it by acclamation pretty quickly I suppose, but I can imagine if they'd thrown away a 20 point lead in the space of a month then they'd be too busy slaughtering one another to come to a consensus. Would be genuine chaos to make 2010 and 2016 aftermaths look pretty serene you'd think.
You're all getting carried away,imo.
It will be Brexit all the way now though - which is difficult for the other parties to attack as their declared views are couched somewhere between non-existent and wait & see. Crosby & Tories not having it that the personal attacks on Jezza don't seem to be working though.
There was a voter interviewed on the Daily Politics today as they canvassed views in Luton as to which party offered most reassurance on defence issues...
''the red one, the one with the rose, because I like the rose''
It will be Brexit all the way now though - which is difficult for the other parties to attack as their declared views are couched somewhere between non-existent and wait & see. Crosby & Tories not having it that the personal attacks on Jezza don't seem to be working though.
There was a voter interviewed on the Daily Politics today as they canvassed views in Luton as to which party offered most reassurance on defence issues...
''the red one, the one with the rose, because I like the rose''
It's a weird one- most of the jews I know are massively pro-Labour. From what I can gather, the Hampstead synagogue is a real place of financial services networking.A few days ago, the mother of a Jewish friend of mine said that she would feel like curling into a ball if Corbyn won, through despair and fear. I'm starting to get a little concerned myself, albeit more generally focused. Jeremy can have his moral victory instead, and significantly reduce May's hoped for majority (the latter being no bad thing really).
It's all right for you, if the SNP win the second Indy Ref Corbyn can be told to piss off in short order.
Anyone read up on this proposed labour garden tax? My council tax could increase to £600 per month
We definitely are, but it's funner the speculating about the precise size of the Tory majority
I don't know her deeper feelings toward the wider Labour Party; it sounded more like an instinctive reaction in my view, likely going back some years.
Interestingly apparently this YouGov prediction has 18-24 turnout at 57%. A lot lower than the Survation poll.
The YouGov model was tested in the EU referendum and consistently came up with Leave winning which is why it was dismissed. I am still highly sceptical but the sheer fact the Tories are remotely sweating on even getting a majority is a demonstration of the Theresa May's incompetence.
Wow, destruction of Labour turns to the Tories in three months. A week really is a long time in politics. Urgh, Boris or Gove...