General Election 2017 | Cabinet reshuffle: Hunt re-appointed Health Secretary for record third time

How do you intend to vote in the 2017 General Election if eligible?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 80 14.5%

  • Labour

    Votes: 322 58.4%

  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 57 10.3%

  • Green

    Votes: 20 3.6%

  • SNP

    Votes: 13 2.4%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 29 5.3%

  • Independent

    Votes: 3 0.5%

  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 2 0.4%

  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 11 2.0%

  • Other (UUP, DUP, BNP, and anyone else I have forgotten)

    Votes: 14 2.5%
  • Total voters
    551
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Corbyn's leadership relaunch earlier this year was briefed explicitly as going down the more populist route.

Jippy said:
Number 8 makes no sense. If there's no deal we fall back on the WTO- why would Corbyn, or anyone else for that matter, accept a worse deal:confused:
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All they want really is to get Brexit back to the top of the issue pile, the "no deal is better than a bad deal" thing plays well for them.
 
May's performance tonight will attract a lot of interest. Until a couple of weeks ago I had her down as a reasonably capable if unspectacular politician, but she's been awful. If she is spectacularly bad, and I think there's a good chance she will be, I just can't see what the Tories are going to do, tactically speaking. It's her that's shifting the polls, I suspect, along with the dementia tax debacle.
 
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Nogbadthebad said:
The thing is WTO rules IS the worst deal possible.

Seriously.

There is only ONE country in the entire world that relies solely on WTO tariff trade agreements. That country is North Korea.
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Pretty sure NK has a deal with China, but yep, it's a rather low benchmark.
 
SteveJ said:
This'll be more awkward than the time he was interviewed by Frost after Watergate.
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:lol:This could be the highlight of this whole sorry election campaign.
Andrew Neil grilling Farron on gay sex is going to be rather surreal though.
 
Ubik said:
Corbyn's leadership relaunch earlier this year was briefed explicitly as going down the more populist route.


All they want really is to get Brexit back to the top of the issue pile, the "no deal is better than a bad deal" thing plays well for them.
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Seriously though, trust in her is so low now, you wouldn't be surprised if she fecks that line of campaigning up too.
 
Jippy said:
Seriously though, trust in her is so low now, you wouldn't be surprised if she fecks that line of campaigning up too.
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It's true given how bad the rest of their campaign's been. But I think if they keep it about Brexit, defence & security and the economy until the 8th they'll be pretty happy, Labour need to get it back to the NHS and social care.
 
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I'm not the author of that article. I think it does provide good food for thought. It might not join up all the dots but there are certainly things to think about. I have had questions in my mind about why on earth this government has behaved as it has with regard to the NHS, and this is the first time I have begun to look at KP's model. It kinda rings true, rather than lays it all out. It would certainly be remiss of a government to expose its secret plans completely open to scrutiny, wouldn't it?
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This provides even more food for thought regarding Tory plans to privatise the NHS. It becomes increasingly clear that this is their intention.

 
Interview 1 excerpt:
Neil: "Where's yer balaclava, ya paddy-shagging bastid?"

Interview 2 excerpt:
Neil: "That's a smashing blouse you have on."
 
Ubik said:
It's true given how bad the rest of their campaign's been. But I think if they keep it about Brexit, defence & security and the economy until the 8th they'll be pretty happy, Labour need to get it back to the NHS and social care.
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They need to keep focus on domestic issues but they should go negative on security, she's been home secretary for 6 of the last 7 years and she's failed to protect this country
 
Ubik said:
It's true given how bad the rest of their campaign's been. But I think if they keep it about Brexit, defence & security and the economy until the 8th they'll be pretty happy, Labour need to get it back to the NHS and social care.
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If I were a Labour strategist I would see May as the weak spot and attack. Weak and wobbly, u-turns, failed to reduce immigration, weak and wobbly, reduced police numbers despite the terrorist threat, u-turns, weak and wobbly, etc. Brief every spokesperson every day to attack her personally.
 
712 said:
May's performance tonight will attract a lot of interest. Until a couple of weeks ago I had her down as a reasonably capable if unspectacular politician, but she's been awful. If she is spectacularly bad, and I think there's a good chance she will be, I just can't see what the Tories are going to do, tactically speaking. It's her that's shifting the polls, I suspect, along with the dementia tax debacle.
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Is she actually turning up tonight or will she send someone to represent?
 
The fact that the Tories have had to reboot won't do themselves any favours amongst the public
 
Mozza said:
They need to keep focus on domestic issues but they should go negative on security, she's been home secretary for 6 of the last 7 years and she's failed to protect this country
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I think being a clear cut as that would backfire, personally. If it's kept to police numbers it can be a winner, but if it moves on to anti-terror legislation and stuff like the snooper's charter, it's bad.
712 said:
If I were a Labour strategist I would see May as the weak spot and attack. Weak and wobbly, u-turns, failed to reduce immigration, weak and wobbly, reduced police numbers despite the terrorist threat, u-turns, weak and wobbly, etc. Brief every spokesperson every day to attack her personally.
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Yeah, bit like a keeper that's just let in a couple of howlers after being 4-0 up, just keep putting it in the box!
 
712 said:
She's billed to. It's if she fecks up again then it gets interesting. Do they hide her away or just carry on and pray? I'm remembering Brown's 'bigoted woman' moment, it might only take one cock-up to swing it.
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If she turns up then it will be tasty. I'm hoping for a disastrous time for her
 
Lentwood said:
Interested to know why you feel Corbyn is not 'nice' and which associations and viewpoints he has held which you disagree with?

I think one of the problems Corbyn has is that he is opinionated and does have principles. Politicains these days scramble for the middl ground because if you don't stand for anything in particular nobody can disagree with you

Corbyn has done absolutely the right thing - come out with a solid manifesto of ambitious but achievable policies. Not everybody will agree with them but the reaction from the general public seems to be that many do
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Nobody 'nice' supports and actively campaigns on behalf of terrorists and murderers. The two do not mix. For context, a younger Corbyn would likely be out campaigning for the innocence of Salman Abedi right now.

Agree with his policies all you like but he is not some lovely, harmless old bloke and people shouldn't be voting for him thinking he is.
 
11101 said:
Nobody 'nice' supports and actively campaigns on behalf of terrorists and murderers. The two do not mix. For context, a younger Corbyn would likely be out campaigning for the innocence of Salman Abedi right now.

Agree with his policies all you like but he is not some lovely, harmless old bloke and people shouldn't be voting for him thinking he is.
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Again, I would very much like to see where you get this idea from.
 
RedSky said:
You and me both Miss Quacks!
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The area I live in is strange. Half a mile away there are loads of vote labour posters yet the Tories won in this constituency two years back. I know my little village is pro tory so i decided to be a little defiant and I've got my vote labour poster up. My house backs on to a main road so it gets exposure :D
 
I loves the Scottee tweet. Its about time some of these MPs of all parties remember that don't operate in a vacuum, the people they work for are very real indeed.

This election is reminding me of one thing, not trump, not macron, the labour leadership election.

He was 200/1 with no chance, being laughed at. The longer it went on the more popular he became.
 
QuackQuack said:
The area I live in is strange. Half a mile away there are loads of vote labour posters yet the Tories won in this constituency two years back. I know my little village is pro tory so i decided to be a little defiant and I've got my vote labour poster up. My house backs on to a main road so it s exposure :D
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Yeah, I was down in Brighton last week and there's a big Labour movement over there. My constituency is Tory with a Lib Dem challenger so will have to go tactical I guess. At least the village i'm in is very pro Lib Dem so I don't feel like kicking people in the shins! :p
 
The Tory PR machine is cranking up ahead of the debates. Another release @Cheesy
Love the way it has a 'Conservative source' quoted at the end whose tone is identical to all of their missives.
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Responding to Jeremy Corbyn’s admission that he would open discussions with the Scottish Government over yet another independence referendum, Ruth Davidson, Leader of the Scottish Conservatives, said:

“Nicola Sturgeon has said she’d put Jeremy Corbyn into Number 10. Now Jeremy Corbyn says he is happy to ‘open discussions’ with her about a second referendum.

“Labour voters in Scotland now know that Jeremy Corbyn would sell them down the river. I will never fold against Nicola Sturgeon’s demand for a second referendum. It is clearer than ever that only by voting Scottish Conservatives on June 8th can we send her a message to take if off the table.”

A Conservative source added:

“It is simply not worth taking the risk of Jeremy Corbyn in Downing Street in 10 days’ time, in charge of Brexit with the SNP calling the shots.”

ENDS
 
Expect the Tories to go hard on the economy. It's played a surprisingly little role so far in their narrative so far in their omnishambles of a campaign.
 
11101 said:
Nobody 'nice' supports and actively campaigns on behalf of terrorists and murderers. The two do not mix. For context, a younger Corbyn would likely be out campaigning for the innocence of Salman Abedi right now.

Agree with his policies all you like but he is not some lovely, harmless old bloke and people shouldn't be voting for him thinking he is.
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I think there is a big, big difference between trying to work toward resolvng the conflict in NI (assuming that is what you are referring to as I cannot think of anything else you could be referring to) and supporting middle Eastern Nationalists blowing up kids at the MEN.

Corbyn does have some complex views on the world which need to be properly understood before you judge. Remember Corbyn was one of the first UK politicians to openly support Mandela and campaign for his release
 
Lentwood said:
I think there is a big, big difference between trying to work toward resolvng the conflict in NI (assuming that is what you are referring to as I cannot think of anything else you could be referring to) and supporting middle Eastern Nationalists blowing up kids at the MEN.

Corbyn does have some complex views on the world which need to be properly understood before you judge. Remember Corbyn was one of the first UK politicians to openly support Mandela and campaign for his release
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This isn't true, as far as I know.
 
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