I'm still in the 'ten point margin' camp. Just pleased my beloved Queen Caroline should keep her seat.
No idea why you quoted me, by the way, but always happy to share predictions.
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No idea why you quoted me, by the way, but always happy to share predictions.
What an absolute crock of shite you are spouting here.
How does making racist comments about white people " call out oppression"?
When you try to justify your hypocrisy by claiming that in any way West Indian mothers are more committed to their children than non-west Indian mothers you are being a racist. That does not strike me as being progressive in any way.
Those who try to justify or protect people who make these types of claims are racist.
Also, I can't understand what your point is in asking me and others to take the racism test unless you think white people are going to prove to be more racist than any other race? Wouldn't that be a racist assumption?
Wouldn't discount this at all anymore if I'm honest, in terms of visibly enthusiastic support Labour certainly have it.
The British love an underdog. The more the media attacks and suppresses Corbyn the more it will harden people's resolve to vote him in.
The conservatives seem to have majorly fecked this campaign up by believing they could do any old shit because they're untouchable due to the margin in the polls. They went full retard because of it I think and are on the backfoot now.
The polls will surely narrow the closer we get and when May will inevitably be torn to pieces in York QT at the weekend they could even turn in Jezzas favour. Pray to god the CL final is quiet in Cardiff the next day so people can focus on her failure!
Also I don't believe Scotland will give Tories seats. It's unthinkable for it to happen there and if Labour can get those few from the SNP rather than the tories then even a hung parliament will ensure May will be gone!
Sorry Dota, not deliberately singling you out. This election is so hard to read it's making me want to go back into the Turkey thread and get the recipe for that awesome egg dish and make it tomorrow.
Except she never said that. She said 'West Indian mothers will go to the wall for their children'. It was only the media who decided to spin it into anything about other mothers. Let me guess, when you heard Black Lives Matter you immediately lost your shit and starting shouting that All Lives Matter right?
Oh get to feck, Britain is over 92% white ffs. It beggars belief that white Brits would try and claim they're victims of racism.
No, it'd be an obvious assumption based on the demographics and even the most cursory examination of history, society and such things as the highest ranking police officer in Britain admitting as recently as 2015 that the police were still institutionally racist. Here's a clue for you, they aren't racist towards the white people.
That's another thing I can't figure out. He has massive crowds, but seems to be focusing on the heartlands. That attendence in a swing sweet...
@Kentonio You're on to a loser here, with regards to convincing folk. You're coming at things from the view that racial comments have to be viewed in the context of the society they are made in and others are starting from a 'if you swap the word white for black how does it sound then?' kind of mindset. A purest view that 'racism is racism' and everyone should be judged by their words alone and taking in to account why they may be liable to make ill-judged comments tarring white people is just making excuses for racists.
The latter view not being one I can subscribe to, as I'd be done for hate speech if the sweeping comments I am prone to when a female friend has had a grim experience with a sexually entitled straight bloke were judged in such a way.
The latter view not being one I can subscribe to, as I'd be done for hate speech if the sweeping comments I am prone to when a female friend has had a grim experience with a sexually entitled straight bloke were judged in such a way.
@DiseaseOfTheAge yeah I think I'll leave it here. Just getting wound up for little result.
UKIP are very odd
You'd think he'd be put off by his stint as the executioner of Marie Antoinette.
"I've just given you a red hot tip!"
Is that actually true?Eddie Hitler (UKIP) said:
The latest poll on just the death penalty I found was this
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32061822
but even with leave voters the death penalty just gets over just half
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...alty-yougov-results-light-bulbs-a7656791.html
So no its seem Nuttal talking shite again.
Whilst it's nice to see UKIPs support plummet, it's frustrating the Conservatives have picked up all their voters.
Can't help but think if Farage was still in charge (poetic), this election could be neck and neck with Labour and the Tories. No way would UKIP have floundered this much under him.
Can't help but think if Farage was still in charge (poetic), this election could be neck and neck with Labour and the Tories. No way would UKIP have floundered this much under him.
We all love a good underdog story. But why didn't the electorate vote for Ed Miliband after the way the gutter Murdoch press were flogging him?
True, Labour has to ensure that the seats the SNP loses in Scotland goes to them and not to the Tories. There's no way the SNP are going to match their own performance from 2015.
The Tory manifesto is a disgrace. They are disrespecting the British people by putting out a manisfesto like that and still thinking that they'll win. They are leading in the over 60 age group though even if that age group (pensioners and such) will be hardest hit under this government.
UKIP was all about getting Britain out of the EU and reducing immigration, which the Conservative government are now currently committed to. As Paul Nuttal said after the council elections, UKIP are now victims of their own success.
I'm sure we'll see Farage heavily involved with UKIP again if the tories start compromising.
Fecker should be under police investigation after that line about 'grabbing a rifle' if there's any compromise over Brexit. Not that a UKIP version of Dad's Army would actually pose any threat to anyone.
Rudd rules out internment, attacks Corbyn again for terrorist sympathy. Alleges that Corbyn is saying different things now to try & get votes.
source: on Breakfast telly just now
source: on Breakfast telly just now
Corbyn always puts his wet finger in the wind before saying anything. Useless twat!
Might be a bit early to totally write off UKIP. Might retain some ex Tory support at this rate
Internment & also Nuttall's offer to execute people himself after the death penalty is reintroduced were quite popular in the Mail comments section.
Internment & also Nuttall's offer to execute people himself after the death penalty is reintroduced were quite popular in the Mail comments section.
I'm genuinely at a loss on whom to vote for. May is a populist idiot who strikes me as a Diet Trump. Corbyn who I think isn't strong enough to lead the country (in that once he was elected the jackals in the Labour Party would perform a coup d'etat)
It's probably the hardest election to call in a long long time.
It's probably the hardest election to call in a long long time.
Ignore the Jamie Jackson name, he's tweeting an old article (oct 16) that I read at the time from Nick Cohen that forewarned May's lies. Well worth a read.
Vote Labour. Corbyn is a principled man who cares deeply about the country and its people. Those are the very basic qualities needed to lead a country, which Theresa May lacks.
I'm not sure May is a populist, just think she's out of her depth and has no idea what she's doing. For someone who repeats the words 'strong and stable' all the time she's ridiculously easy to blow off course
That sounds like an argument to persuade a girl to out with your ugly mate rather than choosing the leader of a country.
You guys should see this if you haven't already. Ed's pretty cool now.
Christ, and people wonder why we keep ending up with total arseholes running the country..
It's being realistic. We're electing a PM not inviting someone over for dinner.
"He's really nice, sweet, caring and he has a nice car and great with the kids, just see how it goes"
The principle duty of a leader is to lead. You might pretend that you can lead without your MPs, I don't. When he's failing to get legisilation through because he has a poor control of his own party let alone the wider commons I won't be okay with that because deep down he's a nice guy.
I'm not going to base who I want to lead the country on who I'd most like the spend the afternoon with.
If you don't care about the country, then what exactly are you leading? Or more precisely, where exactly are you leading us to?
We've been propagandized to for so long to trick people into thinking that first and foremost we need 'strong' leaders who can fight our battles. Well if they are the wrong battles, or we're fighting on the wrong side, then what's the fecking point?
There's a very clear choice now between a party and a man who have policies that help the majority of people in the UK and who will actually negotiate Brexit sensibly, or a party that plan on hurting a huge number of people and will approach Brexit negotiations like a bad remake of a WW2 movie.
If you vote for May, then don't come whining when you get fecked along with everyone else.
If the Tories were led by Merkel or someone of similar ilk, then I would acknowledge the 'strong leader, strong country' message as a legitimate reason to vote. But May is terrible, she can't even speak to journalists without becoming super nervous and scared. It just doesn't work. I think Corbyn has more balls than her.
A primary school teacher could care about the country. Doesn't mean based on that I think they're a suitable person to do so.
You need vision, strong leadership and other qualities as well. Most will be subjective but to argue that the man who the majority of his own MPs have no confidence in cannot be said to have strong leadership skills. It's possible to dislike someone but think they make a better leader than someone you like.
You need vision, strong leadership and other qualities as well. Most will be subjective but to argue that the man who the majority of his own MPs have no confidence in cannot be said to have strong leadership skills. It's possible to dislike someone but think they make a better leader than someone you like.
Do you really think May brings that then? I certainly don't.
I've attacked May on his very page as being out of her depth and useless.
No. I don't either. But I'm not supporting May. As said above.
People really do only see people's opinions when they're anti-Corbyn, don't they?
It's possible to dislike both.
Or in May's case, the vision of Britain as a dystopian wasteland where the huddled masses gather in the streets to beg for scraps of bread from their corporate overlords.
I don't trust May, as she seems to change her principals to whatever would get her power. The fact she was remain until she saw that she could become leader if she became Brexit is something I found very concerning.
I would vote corbyn but the problem is that there has already been a failed attempt to oust him as leader of the Labour Party. If he became PM how long before he would lose control of the party?
I would vote corbyn but the problem is that there has already been a failed attempt to oust him as leader of the Labour Party. If he became PM how long before he would lose control of the party?
Corbyn has a clear vision. It's difficult to argue otherwise, we know exactly where he stands on foreign policy, defence, the economy, welfare you can go on and on.
I would also argue Jeremy HAS shown strong leadership qualities. As you rightly say, the Labour Party was divided on his appointment as leader and yet somehow he has managed to rally the Party and pull off, win or lose, what will have to be acknowledged as a fantastic electoral campaign that has actually made the Labour Party credible and electable again