General Election 2017 | Cabinet reshuffle: Hunt re-appointed Health Secretary for record third time

How do you intend to vote in the 2017 General Election if eligible?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 80 14.5%
  • Labour

    Votes: 322 58.4%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 57 10.3%
  • Green

    Votes: 20 3.6%
  • SNP

    Votes: 13 2.4%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 29 5.3%
  • Independent

    Votes: 3 0.5%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 11 2.0%
  • Other (UUP, DUP, BNP, and anyone else I have forgotten)

    Votes: 14 2.5%

  • Total voters
    551
  • Poll closed .
I take it the foxhunting thing is cause she genuinely thought it would make little difference to voters (let's be honest - it shouldn't - it's reprehensible but nothing compared to animal cruelty that is currently legal) but would sweeten up a few of her MP's?
 
Nick Timothy probably only has a couple of weeks left in his job regardless of the result now, possibly the biggest campaign feck up there's ever been in this country.
This has completely fecked his CV. I just can't see her winning tbh.
I take it the foxhunting thing is cause she genuinely thought it would make little difference to voters (let's be honest - it shouldn't - it's reprehensible but nothing compared to animal cruelty that is currently legal) but would sweeten up a few of her MP's?
I guess so- maybe she thought abhorring it was a lefty thing, not across the board. Plus it probably sweetens a few MPs and country folk. Really odd.
 
I take it the foxhunting thing is cause she genuinely thought it would make little difference to voters (let's be honest - it shouldn't - it's reprehensible but nothing compared to animal cruelty that is currently legal) but would sweeten up a few of her MP's?
It's something that's in every Tory manifesto as standard, they've just not had a big enough majority since regaining power to put it through (free vote and there'd be 40+ voting against it). I imagine they left it in because it was seen as more of a fight with the Torygraph and Mail in particular than she could be bothered with. I still don't think it's moving many votes if I'm honest, the big thing is still the lack of competence and trustworthiness shown on the care issue.
 
I think there's a good chance Corbyn will win, hope he does just to watch the fallout from him taking Britain back to the 70's, and failing to fulfil his pledges as he doesn't seem to have a basic grasp of economics. In the meantime I will continue with my migration away from the UK.
 
I actually think Cameron's heart was in the right place. May's opening speech was a conciliatory good one, but yep, since then the hard edge has resurfaced. The foxhunting and ivory policies are horrendous and such obvious net vote losers. Massive over-confidence on her part and an apparently huge miscalculation, alienating so many traditional Tory voters like myself.
Even with social care, all she had to do was say the issue needs fixing and we'll hold a consultation- just leave it at that.

I strongly disliked Cameron and thought he could be a little shit sometimes who was unwilling to actually make decisions for himself, but he did seem willing to engage and tried to be full of conviction etc. He'd probably be quite interesting to talk to. May, on the other hand, is one of those religious types who seem to hold utter contempt for anyone who dare question them. Comes across as quite nasty, actually. But then maybe I'm remembering Cameron too fondly in retrospect. Still a cnut.
 
I think there's a good chance Corbyn will win, hope he does just to watch the fallout from him taking Britain back to the 70's, and failing to fulfil his pledges as he doesn't seem to have a basic grasp of economics. In the meantime I will continue with my migration away from the UK.

Irony from Brexit voters at its finest :lol:
 
I think there's a good chance Corbyn will win, hope he does just to watch the fallout from him taking Britain back to the 70's, and failing to fulfil his pledges as he doesn't seem to have a basic grasp of economics. In the meantime I will continue with my migration away from the UK.

That's the Tories you're thinking of, pal.
 
This is the ad I saw



The capitalisation of SHARE looks like the sort of thing a right-wing grandparent would do on Facebook after reading a false headline from some dodgy Macedonian alternative media website.
 
The capitalisation of SHARE looks like the sort of thing a right-wing grandparent would do on Facebook after reading a false headline from some dodgy Macedonian alternative media website.
"PLEASE PUT THIS UP ON YOUR MYSPACE WEBSITE."
 
BBC News has Nick Robinson doing a round table with some potential voters. Asked them all to say one or two words that describe May and then Corbyn. All but one of the May ones were fairly negative, all the Corbyn ones were positive. Some obvious Tory leaning voters saying they were seriously considering Labour. Fascinating to see how this election is changing.

link to footage mate?
 
link to footage mate?

Here, this should be helpful:

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link to footage mate?
If you've got access to iPlayer, it was on the BBC News channel and called Nick Robinson's Takeaways or summat similar, on at about 2 30 earlier.
 
I think there's a good chance Corbyn will win, hope he does just to watch the fallout from him taking Britain back to the 70's, and failing to fulfil his pledges as he doesn't seem to have a basic grasp of economics. In the meantime I will continue with my migration away from the UK.

You don't need to return, it's all good. :)
 
Gap at +10 for Tories with Opinium (down from +13 last weekend) and +12 with ComRes (down from +18 a fortnight ago). The YouGov later on tonight will be one to watch.
 
That's the Tories you're thinking of, pal.

Taxing people earning > £80K a year more isn't going to raise what they have 'costed' it's well known that if you just keep raising taxes it has a negative effect at some point in terms of the economy. Such as people will just move to another country, as I'm doing.
 
Taxing people earning > £80K a year more isn't going to raise what they have 'costed' it's well known that if you just keep raising taxes it has a negative effect at some point in terms of the economy. Such as people will just move to another country, as I'm doing.

That's very patriotic of you
 
:lol: I didn't even fecking vote on Brexit :lol:

You been advocating for Brexit. Doesn't change the context of the irony in the slightest.

Taxing people earning > £80K a year more isn't going to raise what they have 'costed' it's well known that if you just keep raising taxes it has a negative effect at some point in terms of the economy. Such as people will just move to another country, as I'm doing.

You're living because Corbyn will win and raise taxes?
 
Taxing people earning > £80K a year more isn't going to raise what they have 'costed' it's well known that if you just keep raising taxes it has a negative effect at some point in terms of the economy. Such as people will just move to another country, as I'm doing.

It might do at some point. It isn't very well evidenced. But certainly not adding ~£250-£1000 to the tax bill of someone on 80-150K
 
Taxing people earning > £80K a year more isn't going to raise what they have 'costed' it's well known that if you just keep raising taxes it has a negative effect at some point in terms of the economy. Such as people will just move to another country, as I'm doing.

You are so concerned about the impact on the economy of people moving away... that you think it's better to vote for the party pledging to reduce net migration to the tens of thousands. Makes sense!
 
Hard to think of a Labour leader in the past 30 years who wouldn't be absolutely miles ahead in the polls of this shambles.
 
It's a government who the headline 'losers' in their totally unfunded manifesto are the elderly and children. Yet the idea that Corbyn isn't doing brilliantly by being far behind, as opposed to very far behind, gets laughed at.

Don't know why this thread isn't just called "Shut up, Tory!" and all the Jezutits can mutually wank off together. Realistically we're two weeks away from a Tory landlside and it's still socially unacceptable here to suggest Corbyn might not be the messiah.

Quick, for balance someone post a Tweet from the Canary.co
 
I wanted to find out more about Corbyn's "Gandhi International Peace Award" and its credibility or otherwise. While researching it I came across a wealth of very interesting stuff. Among previous recipients were the founders of Media Lens. I guess I must have come across them before but never really looked in depth. It's a goldmine! The stuff on how the press treated our involvement in Libya is fecking mindblowing - and all backed up with good links. I recommend it highly.

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Then there's this:

 
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