I just got a Tory attack ad on YouTube that was more akin to something out of a US race.
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I don't like to judge people on their appearance, but damn she really is morphing into the Grand High Witch. The design and animation is very much in the vein of a Dahl/Roeg grotesque.
For balance Corbyn is Grandma Josephine.
For balance Corbyn is Grandma Josephine.
Wonder why they'd choose to target youjust kisding lol
Thinking about it, those videos in the Flat Earth thread may not have helped...
Thinking about it, those videos in the Flat Earth thread may not have helped...
In all seriousness though they're incredibly targeted so you must be in a marginal and demographic they're looking at?
I've not seen any ads but then this is 95% a safe seat for the tories. If i do then i know they're panicking
Nah this is one of the safest Tory seats in the country, I know Facebook stuff is really highly targeted but YouTube might be a bit more scattershot.
If Ed eating a bacon sandwich cost him an election, that contortion should be gif of this election period.
That's because you're looking at too short a timescale for one thing. Western interference in the gulf region goes back for nearly 100 years, when the Ottoman empire was broken up and we created new states by basically drawing straight lines on a map. Since then we've intervened pretty much without pause, helped overthrow governments, fund and support brutal dictators and engage in open warfare. Oh and of course the wonders of drone strikes, ensuring that people in many countries can just find their house blown up without warning at any moment for reasons they'll never know.
The civilian casualties in the Middle East from western attacks are horrific, absolutely beyond belief. Our countries go into national mourning and outrage when we experience a couple of dozen deaths in an attack. In some gulf counties THOUSANDS of completely innocent people have been blown to pieces by us and we either don't even hear about it on the news, or we just call it 'collateral damage' which apparently makes it ok to blow up a hospital, or school or wedding party.
The only 'naive' thing here is the idea that we can cause an endless bloodbath in an area and not expect any consequences.
As for Germany, it's almost irrelevant that they haven't been involved personally. Like the kind neighbours we so often are, we've helped paint a target on the whole of Europe. The goals of the terrorist groups we helped create don't have to be direct revenge on the country that attacked them. We've helped create a space where extremists of all stripes can recruit, train and equip.
Believe they're demographically targeted, rather than geographical.
Also YouTube (and FB and just about every online advertiser) will often dump adverts so that they can go back to clients and say they delivered or over delivered. Majority of online and social advertising is wastage (wrong people seeing the wrong ads).
Again, while I'm not denying that and largely agree with you that Western foreign policy has been incredibly damaging and has done more harm than good, it still can't be used as the sole excuse for the actions of ISIS; they still kill an incredibly high number of their own people, for example, even though they're hardly responsible for our actions.
Hmm not sure about that. YouTube is part of the Google network so is probably the most accurately profiled advertising you can get. The latest iteration will even detect "life events" I.e it knows when you are getting married, moving house etc in addition to your location, demographic, interests and so on.
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I just don't get the premise at all. Literally no serious person in the west is trying to excuse the actions of ISIS. Not a single person. Yet supposedly when we talk about the causes of terrorist attacks, we have to waste endless amounts of time explaining that we're not excusing terrorism and that the terrorists are horrible people etc etc. Well no shit, they just blew up a concert full of young kids, we know they're horrible people ffs.
In the meantime the real discussion about why we're regularly being attacked by people willing to sacrifice their lives just to kill us becomes blurred and distorted, because everyone's so busy making sure they won't get misrepresented by cnuts playing political games. It just makes me furious that any possible solution will likely be held back years or decades because of people not wanting to look 'weak'.
I 'ate you Butler!
She looks like she's just seen Boris's piles.
There is no approach which would work and we have in fact tried many different approaches in many different countries and none of them have been successful.
Even a dramatically different foreign policy is just as likely to alienate yet another set of people who would then know exactly what you have to do to get what you want from the UK.
Absolutely untrue. There have been countless waves of terrorism around the world connected to different conflicts and issues, and nearly every time they've ended with some form of negotiation, from the IRA, to FARC to the PLO etc. If there's one lesson that resounds through it all, it's that you can't just kill your way out of a terrorist crisis. In the case of ISIS we can't negotiate directly with them, because of their wildly extreme ideology, but we can certainly negotiate with more moderate groups in those aareas, help support local communities and engage in a positive way that cuts into their recruitment base and starts to close them down locally. We don't achieve that by killing civilians, nodding and selling high tech weapons to the Saudis so they can commit war crimes, and generally acting like the lives of the local people are worthless.
What does that mean?
This is a joke... (and I laughed)
She's the political Phil Jones. Always pulling faces.
BBC News has Nick Robinson doing a round table with some potential voters. Asked them all to say one or two words that describe May and then Corbyn. All but one of the May ones were fairly negative, all the Corbyn ones were positive. Some obvious Tory leaning voters saying they were seriously considering Labour. Fascinating to see how this election is changing.
Feels like May has worked herself into a corner with the whole strong and stable mantra. Now people are seeing through that she's not really got much else.
Yeah several of the people being interviewed said they liked her at first and they were 'drawn to a strong leader' but since she's flip flopped on various things they don't really trust her now.
What was the demographic of the round table?
I'm not a fan of the New statesman but one of its writers Stephen Bush(Who's actually pretty good)mentioned in a recent article the potential negative effects of bringing back such policies as fox hunting and the sale of ivory(I think someone on here who has voted Tory before said they wouldn't vote for them this election because of the ivory stuff.)
Here's the article - http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/june2017/2017/05/why-tories-falling-poll-lead-believable
Cameron tried his best to hide The Nasty Party(Although you didn't need to look to hard to see that they were still a pack of cnuts)it seem with May she has almost fully embraced it. And it's worth saying the motto at the home office during May time there was ''No one likes and we don't care''.
I can't stomach listening to May speak. Something about her just pisses me off the second I see her.
It was something like elderly white male, middle aged white male, middle aged black male, middle aged black female and a couple of middle aged white females. Think there were a few more, but couldnt see everyone clearly because of the seating positions. Couple of the women were clearly longtime Labour, the middle aged white guy was clearly a natural Tory, and the rest were pretty much swing voters.
Thanks.
Mostly Knights to be fair so you think they'd be conservative.
Bear in mind that was filmed on Monday, by the looks of it.
Boris would probably be walking this election, I still can't see anything other than a demolition of Labour but if the pensioners start getting the jitters over her lanky arms and haunted face it could get interesting.
I don't think so, even the Tory guy on the panel said if it had been Boris he would have already given up on voting conservative. He really did damage his brand during the Brexit campaign and his gaffes since.
Aye, for as much as we're generally a conservative-leaning, Daily Mail reading country a lot of the time and hold some fairly right-wing opinions on issues like immigration etc, I think there's a lot of stuff the Tories support that just pisses people off. It's hard to buy May as this virtuous Christian type when she's quite happy to see animals slaughtered for nothing other than...well, why not?
I actually think Cameron's heart was in the right place. May's opening speech was a conciliatory good one, but yep, since then the hard edge has resurfaced. The foxhunting and ivory policies are horrendous and such obvious net vote losers. Massive over-confidence on her part and an apparently huge miscalculation, alienating so many traditional Tory voters like myself.
Even with social care, all she had to do was say the issue needs fixing and we'll hold a consultation- just leave it at that.
I can't see the foxhunting giving May a single extra vote, although it's bound to lose her a few. It's a sad measure of how confident she was of winning really.
Or maybe over-confident?
Nick Timothy probably only has a couple of weeks left in his job regardless of the result now, possibly the biggest campaign feck up there's ever been in this country.